Could B3 Phenom be the rebirth of AMD....+1000MHZ OC done!

[informal]

Keeping this progress with CTI,AMD can and probably will bring us to B3 chip@2.8Ghz by Q3(before Shanghai).

[Mechromancer]

Keeping this progress with CTI,AMD can and probably will bring us to B3 chip@2.8Ghz by Q3(before Shanghai).

It will come before Q3 and it will be 140w TDP. The Phenom 9950! I hope you own a high end motherboard with multiple power phases for that baby. DFI FTW!

[BrokenWall]

It will come before Q3 and it will be 140w TDP. The Phenom 9950! I hope you own a high end motherboard with multiple power phases for that baby. DFI FTW!

If I remember correctly DFI has a 6-phase + 1 MC+HT

and the M3A32-MVP is 8-phase + 2 MC+HT

[B.E.E.F.]

140W. Ouch.

Where's those 45nm already?

[justapost]

Keeping this progress with CTI,AMD can and probably will bring us to B3 chip@2.8Ghz by Q3(before Shanghai).

We'll get 9950 at 2.6GHZ and 140W TDP. But a 2.8GHz chip? Im skeptic here because that would be a cpu running 2.8GHZ-3.0GHz at 1.3-1.35V (unsure about the stock voltage here).
Manufracturs must take long term degradation into account if this anandtech article is correct.

[Tony]

790FX is supposed to be the weapon of choice if you go by spec's...if I get any sample NV boards I will ofcourse be posting

[Loser777]

I swore not to buy another ASUS board after my M2NPV-VM, but as its the only Nvidia option right now...

Stupid board cant survive 1MHz above stock.

[Brother Esau]

I swore not to buy another ASUS board after my M2NPV-VM, but as its the only Nvidia option right now...

Stupid board cant survive 1MHz above stock.

LOL.....

[AliG]

hey has anyone tried the 9850s with a 590 sli board? I'm currently using the crosshair I bought a couple of years ago, and while its a very nice board, I'm kinda concerned that it would allow for as high of an oc as these newer boards. On the bright side it has an 8 phase power design so I should be able to feed any k10/k10.5 quad with plenty of power

[pershoot]

nice thread. im ready to join the party! havent posted on here in a long time. will post my results once the system is totally assembled.

keep on clockin!

[Loser777]

LOL.....

Seriously, 2400MHZ up from 2200MHZ stock is a suicide run when you use this board.
I got prime stable for like an hour, and a screenshot at 2400, but it never worked again at that speed no matter what I tried.
Picture is from 12/12/06

I think my 4200+ can do 2.91 with a better mobo.
Even with Polygon's insane modding skills that managed to lower my HTT multi, I still couldn't get a better clock.
At first, with the 0405 BIOS that came with this board, 213x11 was the highest stable it could do, now it can't even do 206x11 after a couple updates, and I bet 203-205 aren't stable either.

ASUS does not have a good rep with me.

[Daveburt714]

I've been trying to get my Gigabyte DS5 to run 1066 Ram. I have a set of 2x2Gb G.Skill PC2-8000, and couldn't get it to work, so I bought a set of 2x1Gb OCZ Reapers (OCZ2RPR 10662GK). Still a NoGo...

There are a few bios settings I don't understand, and I'm thinking they may be the key to getting it running but the Trial and Error thing is getting kinda old!



Sorry the pic is a little shakey, but it's still readable.

Tony: I know your an OCZ Rep, and you've been testing this stuff. Am I missing something? As you can see I really loosened the snot out of the timings, it will boot and run somewhat OK, but it won't pass 4core Prime for more than a few minutes.

I'm thinking the stuff I circled in the pic may be the key to my problems, but the Docs are thin, and I can't seem to Google any useful info.

Any help would be appreciated!...... Thanks. Dave

[Rapt0r]

things looking good for 9850BE

[Nedjo]

FUGGER we're becoming inpatient

[jonspd]

FUGGER we're becoming inpatient

my thoughts exactly

[Tony]

I've been trying to get my Gigabyte DS5 to run 1066 Ram. I have a set of 2x2Gb G.Skill PC2-8000, and couldn't get it to work, so I bought a set of 2x1Gb OCZ Reapers (OCZ2RPR 10662GK). Still a NoGo...

There are a few bios settings I don't understand, and I'm thinking they may be the key to getting it running but the Trial and Error thing is getting kinda old!



Sorry the pic is a little shakey, but it's still readable.

Tony: I know your an OCZ Rep, and you've been testing this stuff. Am I missing something? As you can see I really loosened the snot out of the timings, it will boot and run somewhat OK, but it won't pass 4core Prime for more than a few minutes.

I'm thinking the stuff I circled in the pic may be the key to my problems, but the Docs are thin, and I can't seem to Google any useful info.

Any help would be appreciated!...... Thanks. Dave

what cpu do you have?

[jonspd]

he has a 9850 and 9600be dunno if he sent the 9850 back yet

[Schneider]

Sorry the pic is a little shakey, but it's still readable.

I'm thinking the stuff I circled in the pic may be the key to my problems, but the Docs are thin, and I can't seem to Google any useful info.

Any help would be appreciated!...... Thanks. Dave

Try Wikipedia, last i checked it has some info on it. Both DQS and Bank Swizzle are performance options so to speak.

DDR2 SDRAM introduces the DQS# enable function to reduce crosstalk and simultaneous
switching output (SSO) impact on the strobe output drivers

DQS as Micron Describes it

This mode reduces page conflicts between
a cache line fill and a cache line evict.

Middle 3 are as they state power down options, its like a cool n quiet for RAM, keep them disabled.
Theres quite a few technical docs on them

EDIT: Just a small note, I can rarely boot with the 1066 Divider yet i can reach 1100+ (with ~tight timings) with the 800 divider, but my SPD is PC5300 so its not too surprising.

[Tony]

To go to 1066 mode you have to set it and reboot, or the bios files get confused.

Daveburt714

Set 800 mode, set vcore to 1.35N
Push up NB ratio till you find its max stable setting and report back

[Chri$ch]

now on water, max bus speed



http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=345880

[Rapt0r]

whats the volts for the max bus speed

[Chri$ch]

CPU @ 1.28v
NB @ 1.20v
Mem @ 2.00v
HT @ 1.20v

[Rapt0r]

cool,I hope all 9850s can do this,btw I heard someone mention that raising the bus speed above 200 does not have any performance increase right?

[informal]

Chri$ch,awesome results,both for max. HTT and chip speed.
Do you find the chip stable @3.1Ghz while idling in Windows?Did you test it for some time under load?

[Chri$ch]

Chri$ch,awesome results,both for max. HTT and chip speed.
Do you find the chip stable @3.1Ghz while idling in Windows?Did you test it for some time under load?

yes, i test it but sys freezed after ~4min prime...

i think cpu need more vcore and other voltage tweaks, but it is my first amd system
and it is a little bit complicated

but 3Ghz (250x12) run stable @ 1.28v VCore