The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[kup]

EZ Flash here too. I've got a USB Stick prepared with all the Rampage and Maximus bios ready, along with AFUDOS 2.29ES.

[theonlybabyface]

Used EZ Flash, zero problems

Thanks. Only issue I have with 219 is once in a while, my hard drives don't get detected (cold boot only) so I have to turn off PS, unplug, replug and fire it back up. Just a pain sometimes so if 308 fixes HD detection at all, I am a happy camper.

[eSp!s0]

Here's a general question:
What's better for overall performance:
A) faster memory, or
B) faster FSB ?

Currently, I'm running 400 FSB and 1066 RAM. Would I have overall better system performance if I upped the FSB to 425 or 450 and (due to memory divider) dropped RAM to around 980?

In other words, is 1066 memory already faster than the rest of the system so that the FSB at 400 is now the bottleneck?

Thanks!

Faster FSB is a good choice, take a look here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...cy#post2882892

But it depends on settings, 5FSB more but 200Mhz ram less won`t be faster, you know.

[Grnfinger]

BIOS 219





BIOS 308

[Anuaja]

[Sources]

Thats stock, you are supposed to use them at 1.9v according to there website.

I am making progress now...

Up to a FSB of 370, with a 400 North Bridge strap.

It is a combo of Sources, and Grnfinger Bios settings....

380 will not work yet...

This is my RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145176

On the sticker on the actual ram, it is marked XMS2-6400 2048MB 800MHz 5-5-5-18 1.80v ver1.2

[TouGe]

Dimsdale:

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9.5
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 115
DRAM Frequency: 1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Normal
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 35
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level 7

Pull-In of CHA PH1 --> PH3 : Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 --> PH3 : Enabled

CPU Voltage : 1.38125 (1.34)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50 (1.616)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.57 (1.60)
DRAM Voltage : 2.12 (2.22)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.24 (1.17)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.10 (1.14)
Loadline Calibration : Disabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.63
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled 

Right now I am testing 3.6GHz and finding I can run at that speed with much less voltage. I have been running OCCT stable for almost 2 hours 1.33750V as set in the BIOS.

[Talonman]

Thats stock, you are supposed to use them at 1.9v according to there website.

Wow!! I like that!! Mabey if I set it to 1.9v good things will happin...

Be back soon!

[TouGe]

TouGe, nice 3dmark score bud !

That's still a work in progress.

[TouGe]

0308???? Did I miss something?

[ericab]

0308???? Did I miss something?

umm...

yes ?

[Grnfinger]

0308???? Did I miss something?

http://rapidshare.com/files/107481955/RF0308.rar

[neo_rtr]

Sorry of this posted under wrong thread but i cant seem to locate the info allthough i remember seeing..
I am looking to find info about there the "motherboard temperature sensor" is located.
Any ideas

Thanks

[TouGe]

Shame on me. I'm going to have to work on the whole paying attention thingy.

[TouGe]

Sorry of this posted under wrong thread but i cant seem to locate the info allthough i remember seeing..
I am looking to find info about there the "motherboard temperature sensor" is located.
Any ideas

Thanks

I've seen the picture before but can't remember off hand where it was posted. I believe the sensor is located somewhere around the top of the DIMM slots. I could be wrong though...like so many times before.

[Talonman]

I am getting faster!
My system is up to 3.46GHz

Everest is reporting:
CPU Core 1.46v
DIMM 2.00v
DIMM VTT 1.01v

Setting my DRAM voltage in the BIOS to 1.88, gives me 2.0v in Everest. Do you think this might be a bit risky?

I did try a 390 FSB Frequency, but won't boot into Vista yet.
Any more ideas anybody?

Here is my current 1004 Bios settings:

Under Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 385
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-770MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax Level: 7

CPU Voltage : 1.475v (BIOS)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60v (BIOS)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49v (BIOS)
DRAM Voltage : 1.88v (BIOS)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40v (BIOS)
South Bridge Voltage : Auto (BIOS)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.63x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS)

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Under Advanced
And USB Configuration :
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller Mode: HiSpeed
BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

[Grnfinger]

I am getting faster!
My system is up to 3.46GHz

Everest is reporting:
CPU Core 1.46v
DIMM 2.00v
DIMM VTT 1.01v

Setting my DRAM voltage in the BIOS to 1.88, gives me 2.0v in Everest. Do you think this might be a bit risky?

I did try a 390 FSB Frequency, but won't boot into Vista yet.
Any more ideas anybody?

Here is my current 1004 Bios settings:

Under Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 385
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-770MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax Level: 7

CPU Voltage : 1.475v (BIOS)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60v (BIOS)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49v (BIOS)
DRAM Voltage : 1.88v (BIOS)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40v (BIOS)
South Bridge Voltage : Auto (BIOS)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.63x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS)

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Under Advanced
And USB Configuration :
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller Mode: HiSpeed
BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

As long as the ram is not getting hot, but at 770MHz I dont see the point of overvolting. Relax Level 7 is gotta be real dog isnt it?

[Talonman]

Yep... I jst set Transaction Booster to Auto, Relax Level 0. Booted up fine.

Going to keep that now too.

[MrHydes]

well i have to thank all of you guys... just followed your tips and voilá



just joined the club... no lets it's how this Maxiampage handles some heat

PS: and of course special thanks to the author of this madness...

[Grnfinger]

With a 3Dmark score like that, all is forgiven

[Nuckin_Futs]

Thanks again for the other FTP link, but this is the same one I saw already. Actually these sites DO NOT clearify the latest BETA v/s FINAL. So where do you guys see a site specifying v1004 as ASUS final, and why or what is the difference from the "ASUS" BETA v1004? If the name of ROM is the same how do you tell them apart? I never saw this before, ASUS using the same version #s for each a BETA and a FINAL. Does this mean ASUS official web site will need to update their status? Also, since when is the official BIOS number higher then latest BETA? wich are you guys calling latest BETA then? Just curious!

I dont now from where to start i reach FSB 395*9 easy, but when i change to FSB 400 the all game are change, i raise and raise my CPU/PLL/NB/FSB voltage the system is not come to stability.
the CPU Configuration can change anything ?

For starting point stability, disable al performance options , especially booster ad Ai Clock Twister. Also if only testing @ FSB 400 for 1:1 w/ DDR800, try strap and DRAM frequency to AUTO for troubleshooting. I found on many BIOS versions, that it works fine, yet mobo is picky with manual of those 2 settings.

Not for me!? Tried 0907 and flashed back to 0903 without a problem (EZFlash). Now using 1004.

How were you abale to flash back from BETA v0907 to BETA v0903 in EZ-Flash. I had to use Windows Live Upodate since my BIOS was baddly corrupted. I heard that a BETA BIOS was supposed to let you EZ-Flash (CMOS version) but I never got it to work, even BETA to revert to last final.

OK ... I'm diving in!! 1004 here I come...

Update:... Flash went well!! I am now a 1004 BIOS Maximus.

She booted right up, now the hard part OC'ing..

Within a few minutes I OC'ed to 2.97GHz, and boot into Vista.

I still would like to see some setting of another member on BIOS 1004 running a Q6600. The faster the better!

CPUz reports a Core Voltage 1.128v on my Q6600. Not sure if that is good or bad?

Did you or were you able to boot and load and re POST as is at stock w/o any of the earlier mentioned POST hangs that were common after 907?

I am making progress now...

Up to a FSB of 370, with a 400 North Bridge strap.

It is a combo of Sources, and Grnfinger Bios settings....

380 will not work yet...

This is my RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145176

On the sticker on the actual ram, it is marked XMS2-6400 2048MB 800MHz 5-5-5-18 1.80v ver1.2

Did you input exact values as from before? Or is this new testing? Try the settings I just described above for stability testing. If you cant get stability on 1:1 forget about any divider. You oviously need more tweaking then.

[dimsdale]

TouGe,

Thanks so much for posting those settings. I appreciate that.

What you have there makes sense to me. I've also found that I can get stable at 3.6GHz with much less voltage than 3.8GHz. What pushes me to 3.8GHz is the fact that I went and blew all this money on the extreme chip with unlocked multiplier. If I don't run it at 9X or something like that, I might as well have the Q9450 with the 8X.

Your actual CPU voltage settings are pretty close to mine. I'm also getting significant vdroop between BIOS and Everest. I just set it at 1.4000 in BIOS because I was getting tired of prime95 errors at the 2 hour mark at about 1.38xxx. I'm sure I could ease it up a little from 1.40000 and still be stable.

I've seen someone here saying that they could get stable at lower voltages with the Rampage BIOS. That might be part of it.

[ZenEffect]

since im at work , and this new bios is news to me

any better gtl adjustments? my quad loves the gtl... it seems i need a .72 value or so though

[Nuckin_Futs]

TouGe,What pushes me to 3.8GHz is the fact that I went and blew all this money on the extreme chip with unlocked multiplier. If I don't run it at 9X or something like that, I might as well have the Q9450 with the 8X.

I've seen someone here saying that they could get stable at lower voltages with the Rampage BIOS. That might be part of it.

My same reason exactly. I like the 8x just fine for the FSB options. I refuse to blow that kind of money on an extreme CPU when I can usually get the same feel on half the cost.

As for that RAMPAGE hack, is it confirmed yet if it does indeed void warenty? I mean does it leave traces ASUS can tel if able to get out of it to a final BIOS?

[andyr(uk)]

0308 is more stable for me with prime anyway , at higher overclock , 425 x 9 is good so will try a bit higher