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    Quote Originally Posted by Remcokatz View Post
    Some photos of the new radiators IN their beautiful boxxes

















    Sorry but, blingy boxes don't cool anything and aren't worth the reported $40 difference from a TC.
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    I know that ofcourse

    But for the price you get excellent quality radiators that perform very well over a very long period.

    You also get a 3 year warranty on the product!
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    Warranty on radiators is almost useless. It either fail or don't upon using it initially (beside Pete's unfortunate event, which might be chalked off due to the extreme abuse of the radiator). 99% of subsequent damage is due to user error.

    With this in mind, touting 3 years warranty is pointless. Even Thermochill have a good warranty and sometime, they will deal even if the warranty if out if this can show it's a manufacturing failure.

    Even embossing with the logo is just bling at best, which can be skipped to save money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilikon View Post
    Warranty on radiators is almost useless. It either fail or don't upon using it initially (beside Pete's unfortunate event, which might be chalked off due to the extreme abuse of the radiator). 99% of subsequent damage is due to user error.

    With this in mind, touting 3 years warranty is pointless. Even Thermochill have a good warranty and sometime, they will deal even if the warranty if out if this can show it's a manufacturing failure.

    Even embossing with the logo is just bling at best, which can be skipped to save money.
    I completely agree, warranty should be taken out of the equation for radiators
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    lets all just wait for the thermal testing... and for the record its not gonna be another 40 dollars, the prices we were given were mfsr, 145.80 will be the cost for a triple, here in Canada. Who knows, maybe without that channel bypass the thermochills have, the slightly denser fins, and all copper water chambers, this rad will give a 1 or 2 degree advantage, and will technically be the BEST radiator out there. the nice box, gaskets and mounting hardware are a bonus.

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    Anyone know what the fan spacing is on these rads?
    Are they more spread out like Thermochill rads? Or together like the Swify's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by afX View Post
    lets all just wait for the thermal testing... and for the record its not gonna be another 40 dollars, the prices we were given were mfsr, 145.80 will be the cost for a triple, here in Canada. Who knows, maybe without that channel bypass the thermochills have, the slightly denser fins, and all copper water chambers, this rad will give a 1 or 2 degree advantage, and will technically be the BEST radiator out there. the nice box, gaskets and mounting hardware are a bonus.
    From what I can find, DirectCanada is the only one listing that price in NA. The only shop south of that border selling them ATM is FrozenCPU and it's listed for ~$173.

    If you've read Martin's post with all the math in it, and read Xilikon's posts in the link I provided, you'd come to the conclusion that the gap isn't hurting or helping the TC's at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterlogged View Post
    If you've read Martin's post with all the math in it, and read Xilikon's posts in the link I provided, you'd come to the conclusion that the gap isn't hurting or helping the TC's at all.
    I was just asking if they were the same size gap as the TC's. I know it doesn't effect performance, just wanted to know what the gap was lol...
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    Quote Originally Posted by smee View Post
    I was just asking if they were the same size gap as the TC's. I know it doesn't effect performance, just wanted to know what the gap was lol...
    I can bet they do vary by a few mm2 since it's mainly a hand-made process.

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    Are these 40$ cheaper or more expensive than TC?
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    I can bet they do vary by a few mm2 since it's mainly a hand-made process.
    Thanks!!

    Quote Originally Posted by teko View Post
    Are these 40$ cheaper or more expensive than TC?
    Thats $40 more expensive.
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    Damn! And everyone allways used to complain about the price on TC's
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    Quote Originally Posted by smee View Post
    I was just asking if they were the same size gap as the TC's. I know it doesn't effect performance, just wanted to know what the gap was lol...
    Wrong gap smee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterlogged View Post
    Wrong gap smee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterlogged View Post
    Sorry but, blingy boxes don't cool anything and aren't worth the reported $40 difference from a TC.
    Was thinking the same thing. Great build however.

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    does the voice on their website crack anyone up? I think its hilarious how intimidating the voice is for introducing WC equipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afX View Post
    does the voice on their website crack anyone up? I think its hilarious how intimidating the voice is for introducing WC equipment.
    it bloody hilarious
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    Quote Originally Posted by teko View Post
    Damn! And everyone allways used to complain about the price on TC's
    I bet Marci is getting a kick out of this.

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    @ the voice. "TFC, X-changer, Triple Radiator @ 360" Wah ah ah
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    looking forward to some results mate
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiGfever View Post
    I bet Marci is getting a kick out of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcoffey View Post
    Well,

    I figured I'd see what all the fuss was about and get one of the 120.2 Feser rads which I just received. First impression, half the treads are already stripped or poorly tapped on the mounting holes. They supply machined screws, and when I tried them out, I could feel the screws slipping with my fingers in the threads. So not good there, and I'm not sure what I'm going to do about that. The frame seems much thinner than a TC or HW labs rads, so tapping with enough threads to grab may be a problem.

    I was expecting some spectacular paint job based on the Feser hype. Looks like they sprayed in a dusty room and you can see a ruffness on the satin finish. It's solid and the there's no thin spots on the coverage, but it's still average at best. The paint on the TC looks better IMO based on the one I have here. But the TC is a flat black, Feser a satin black.

    Looked down in the ports which where sealed from the factory and I could still see some liquid or wetness. First time I've ever see that, but no big deal.

    I'll get them on my second bench later on and see how it holds up against a TC 120.2 cooling a QX9650 at 1.44 volts with mid speed YL's and see how it does.

    Bottom line, this thing better kick some serious WC ass, because at $144.42 USD shipped, I'm not the least bit impressed yet.



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    thanks for taking the time to actually get us some real numbers. too many boneheads like to open their mouths and trash talk without having data to back it up. Good thing we have people like u and Martin to get us something tangible. We really need more options for high-performance radiators.

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    Personally I'd prefer if the testing was done with CPU + graphics card in the loop instead of just CPU. XS is the exception, not the rule when it comes to the number of radiators/loops in a system.

    Most people would only jump up to a triple when they are adding more stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcoffey View Post
    Well,

    I figured I'd see what all the fuss was about and get one of the 120.2 Feser rads which I just received. First impression, half the treads are already stripped or poorly tapped on the mounting holes. They supply machined screws, and when I tried them out, I could feel the screws slipping with my fingers in the threads. So not good there, and I'm not sure what I'm going to do about that. The frame seems much thinner than a TC or HW labs rads, so tapping with enough threads to grab may be a problem.

    I was expecting some spectacular paint job based on the Feser hype. Looks like they sprayed in a dusty room and you can see a ruffness on the satin finish. It's solid and the there's no thin spots on the coverage, but it's still average at best. The paint on the TC looks better IMO based on the one I have here. But the TC is a flat black, Feser a satin black.

    Looked down in the ports which where sealed from the factory and I could still see some liquid or wetness. First time I've ever see that, but no big deal.

    I'll get them on my second bench later on and see how it holds up against a TC 120.2 cooling a QX9650 at 1.44 volts with mid speed YL's and see how it does.

    Bottom line, this thing better kick some serious WC ass, because at $144.42 USD shipped, I'm not the least bit impressed yet.



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    Your a braver man than I, mcoffey. Looking forward to results.

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    thanks for taking the time to actually get us some real numbers. too many boneheads like to open their mouths and trash talk without having data to back it up. Good thing we have people like u and Martin to get us something tangible. We really need more options for high-performance radiators.
    Why do I get the feeling this is partially aimed at me?
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