The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[Krav]

Lowest possible setting that's still stable.

If it's stable at the lowest possible setting, then just leave it there. If not then work your way up until it's stable using OCCT in CPU setting. But considering the fact that you state this exact voltage leaves a faint suspicion that that is your stable voltage, am I wrong?

Im experimenting with 1.26 voltage now for the cpu core @ 3.33 ghz, seems stable so far with fsb term voltage @ 1.30 so i will try lowest setting after test.

[Nuckin_Futs]

V1004! Cool, I'm concidering a try late this weekend. I mainly need it to be E6x50 friendly for now, or to test w/ my old GO Q6600 till I decide on X3350 or Q9450. So any actual BIOC options added or removed since 903? Is S3/STR stable w/ or w/o ACPI 2.0 Enabled? Is CPU BIOS reported corrected to read as cores 1/2 or 1-4 averaged?

How does the B3 Q6600 or recent rev play on this for temps v/s higher FSB OC?

EDIT: I'm have challanges trying to boot w/ Ai as Strong and or booster to Enabled w/ RAM in sig even to 2.3v What is likely holding this back, BIOS ver. or RAM? What RAM is getting same 1150+ w/ less vdimm?

[rcjian]

Hi, I'd be worried about 56c under load in probe as it consistantly under reads temps at around 25c less than the actual core temps...
Chris

I just downloaded the Trial Ver of Everest and started to prime again using Blend. CPU temp result is very close between Probe and Everest, actually almost all the readings are close to each other. Not sure about Core 1 and Core 2 temp though, why are they higher than the actual CPU temp on Everest?

[p2501]

Im experimenting with 1.26 voltage now for the cpu core @ 3.33 ghz, seems stable so far with fsb term voltage @ 1.30 so i will try lowest setting after test.

Lucky bastard, look at my sig with what vcore I have to beat my chip..

[rangerone7669]

did the flash earlier today with very promising results. unfortunatly my crucial lanfest are on rma, and i bet i get junk single sided ram when they return my rma.

si i'm in the market for a new set of ram. what ram will get me about 1200mhz on these boards? was thinking of getting the axeram 1200mhz's but is there a better set out there?

running
maximus/rampage formula se
q6600 g0 455x8 fsb
2gigs of standard adata @910mhz
evga 8800gt
2 74gig raptors in raid
pcpower&cooling 750watt

[Grnfinger]

After Flashing my stable OC is no longer stable, performance monitoring apps (SpeedFan and nVidia Monitor) crash it. Guess I'll have to grab the Rampage versions of all the drivers and reinstall the apps.

there is no need to install the Rampage drivers for they are the same as the Maximus.
I would recommend a clean OS install, and some users reported that they need a drop or 2 more vCore after the mod.

[Grnfinger]

V1004! Cool, I'm concidering a try late this weekend. I mainly need it to be E6x50 friendly for now, or to test w/ my old GO Q6600 till I decide on X3350 or Q9450. So any actual BIOC options added or removed since 903? Is S3/STR stable w/ or w/o ACPI 2.0 Enabled? Is CPU BIOS reported corrected to read as cores 1/2 or 1-4 averaged?

How does the B3 Q6600 or recent rev play on this for temps v/s higher FSB OC?

EDIT: I'm have challanges trying to boot w/ Ai as Strong and or booster to Enabled w/ RAM in sig even to 2.3v What is likely holding this back, BIOS ver. or RAM? What RAM is getting same 1150+ w/ less vdimm?

My Corsair does 1175MHz @ 2.12 volts ( bios ) 2.21 volts (Everest)
they will also do 1275MHz @ 2.18 volts (bios) 2.26 (Everest)
Extrmely pleased with this kit, looking at grabbing a 2x2GB kit after I sell a kidney and grab a EK block for new gpu
1004 temps seem to be reporting correctly, or they did for me anyways, It could be your bios giving you grief, you seem to banging your head alot on a few issues with the 9?? series bios.

I just downloaded the Trial Ver of Everest and started to prime again using Blend. CPU temp result is very close between Probe and Everest, actually almost all the readings are close to each other. Not sure about Core 1 and Core 2 temp though, why are they higher than the actual CPU temp on Everest?

core temps are always higher, this is normal

[Krav]

Lucky bastard, look at my sig with what vcore I have to beat my chip..

well ive been doing very short tests as im impatient so wont no a sure guarantee if its stable till i run it overnight but im running @ 1.26 now 3.33

and FSB termination at lowest voltage also that you mentioned

Guess im lucky my vid is 1.2500

[ElEctric_EyE]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but is it better to flash this board to the Rampage Formula BIOS, or the latest Maximus Formula beta BIOS? I have a board coming, and I want to get it set right the first time. I know the Rampage BIOS is a little dated compared to the Formula one, but I'm not sure if they've increased the FSB capability with the Formula one or not. Last I heard the Rampage one was getting higher FSB on peoples boards. Thanks

I've had better luck with 1004, but I'm running a Q6600 and only running 2 sticks of ram. Seems like alot of E8400 and dual core users, and others using all four DIMM slots benefit from the extra settings of RF BIOS. If you're going to make an X38 NB act like a X48, you may want to consider active cooling, because you'll be pushing the volts on it.

[dimsdale]

Here's a basic question for you folks:
If I am 9 hours prime95 blend stable at certain settings, then I bump a) the multipler by .5 (to go from 3.6 GHz to 3.8 GHz) and b) the CPU volts a bit, and then prime95 starts to create rounding errors at 2 hours, is there any chance the problem is anything but the CPU volts?

In other words, does upping the CPU speed while touching nothing else impact any other settings in the BIOS besides CPU volts?

Thanks!

[XtremeTiramisu]

Here's a basic question for you folks:
If I am 9 hours prime95 blend stable at certain settings, then I bump a) the multipler by .5 (to go from 3.6 GHz to 3.8 GHz) and b) the CPU volts a bit, and then prime95 starts to create rounding errors at 2 hours, is there any chance the problem is anything but the CPU volts?

In other words, does upping the CPU speed while touching nothing else impact any other settings in the BIOS besides CPU volts?

Thanks!

If you only changed multi to get higher CPU mhz, not only you'll need to check your Vcore but also PLL and possibly your NB volt as well. It's best to post a full bios template so we can better see what may be the prob.

[rcjian]

Ok guys, I need help and suggestions here, today I ran prime95 at small FFTs settings for more than 5 hours with no errors. Then i switched to Blend settings and it primed for 2 hrs and 5 min until i get this error below on worker thread #2!
Any suggestion on my settings below are very much appreciated! Thanks...




Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 445
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 891
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 5
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 9
Write to Read Delay (S) : 5
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
( enabled will give better bandwidth but might create instability in ram)
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0


CPU Voltage : 1.4625(showing 1.44-everest)
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.43(showing 1.47-everest)
DRAM Voltage : 1.9
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[Nuckin_Futs]

When I try to stress test RAM on divider 5;6 or 3:4 and in Prime 95 v25.5 blend , I usually just get hard reset, no errors or warning of any kind. What does this hint to? On my AMD test rig, it at least stops w/ an error in either tread before just blacking out and resetting.

This one if it doesnt just reset out of the blue, it has went to BSOD before reset. Just curious. This has happened on many BIOS ver. dut usually on the 5;6 divider under 480x8 or 500x8. It is stable at each. I'm just saying, when I was tweaking it to get there, I rarely ever go an error when on the divider, just reset/restart. Even when just close to stable. on MAX, I a few times might get a tread fail msg.

[XtremeTiramisu]

Ok guys, I need help and suggestions here, today I ran prime95 at small FFTs settings for more than 5 hours with no errors. Then i switched to Blend settings and it primed for 2 hrs and 5 min until i get this error below on worker thread #2!
Any suggestion on my settings below are very much appreciated! Thanks...


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 445
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 891
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 5
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 9
Write to Read Delay (S) : 5
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
( enabled will give better bandwidth but might create instability in ram)
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0


CPU Voltage : 1.4625
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 1.9
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Prime small fft = stress on CPU primarily
Prime blend = more stress on the NB/Ram than CPU.

Try raising your NB Core, Vdimm(Ram volt) and a relaxed timings. Don't adjust all of the above in the same time. I'd suggest try NB core volt first since you're already good for ~2 hr blend.

[Grnfinger]

With 4GB I agree more NB juice 1.53-1.55 to start

[dimsdale]

I'm getting rounding errors in prime95 at 2 hours, 2 hours 45 mins, etc with NB voltage of 1.61 (bios = everest).
I would try increasing the relax to [1] or [2] and definitely your RAM volts.

[Wolf2000me]

^ this only re-enforces what i said.

CHECK OUT PAGE 13 FOR UPDATED FLASH PROCEDURES.

I did, page 14 is bookmarked ^^

The question was:
Can I use a program like Asus update to flash to the next released bios for the rampage when a rampage bios is running?

[kup]

I did, page 14 is bookmarked ^^

The question was:
Can I use a program like Asus update to flash to the next released bios for the rampage when a rampage bios is running?

You can. If you flashed using the newest method involving AFUDOS it'll set the ROMID to that of whatever bios you flash so Asus Update will work just fine.

[MrHydes]

Ok guys, I need help and suggestions here,


CPU Voltage : 1.4625
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 1.9
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO

i would suggest not to live the CPU PLL AUTO because it might give you
supid high voltagens and E8*** doesn't supports that much...
somone correct me if i'm wrong... at least with @0904 i don't leave anything in AUTO

[dimsdale]

somone correct me if i'm wrong... at least with @0904 i don't leave anything in AUTO

I agree. I don't leave much on AUTO because you don't know what the BIOS is doing. How can you troubleshoot settings if you don't know what they are?

[trt740]

I put my usb in the computer, using the usb boot program tell it to create a boot disk ,using the boot files that I downloaded , it formats the stick says it puts the files on the usb but it's blank? Also when you flash you don't use easy flash correct ? it should boot as a removable device? Also is the front page correct or has the method changed to flash the bios? Im not doing something right with the usb stick?

[zlojack]

There will be some shortly, working on getting some numbers together

Any more news on those numbers?

[BigKriss]

Latest bios `s available guys ? Links as well please ?

[cyrixMII300]

just an update for you guys. tried flashing to 1004 Beta yesterday and guess what. the stupid bios isnt stable with my quaddie even at my fully stable 3.6GHz which was running on 0907. naturally i decided to downgrade and had to go thru hell before i was able to do it. finally managed to complete it by 2am.

anyway, i am sticking to 0907 from now on unless some1 convinces me otherwise. its been the most stable bios for me so far.

still no luck on getting my quaddie stable on 4.0GHz.

[safan80]

just an update for you guys. tried flashing to 1004 Beta yesterday and guess what. the stupid bios isnt stable with my quaddie even at my fully stable 3.6GHz which was running on 0907.

anyway, i am sticking to 0907 from now on unless some1 convinces me otherwise. its been the most stable bios for me so far.

still no luck on getting my quaddie stable on 4.0GHz.

funny.. 0907 wasn't stable for me at all. I had gone back to 0903 but the S3 issues that were fixed in 0907 caused me to upgrade to 1004 which allowed me to lower my voltages and it runs faster than 0903.
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