**Official DFI LanParty UT P35-T2R Review/Overclock/Guide Thread**

[karateo]

vtt 1.15
gtls auto
tRD 10
the 2 settings on top of timings section set on FAST or less
333/666 divider to start

as for your problem with latest bios
is your cpu degraded?
can you run at stock settings stable?
I mean, set the vcore as vid states and frequency and run prime/occt

it works without any problems here.
in fact all the bioses after the last december

[Alex-Ro]

Some testing with Crucial Ballistix 1000:

710 mhz on memory validation:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=341992

700 mhz S-pi 1M:

http://forum.crazypc.ro/attachment.p...7&d=1207514162

[sniggle]

Funky, with my new E8400 and this board I am able to hit 461mhz FSB no problem. That's with a single notch up in NB voltage. I am going to experiment with dropping the multi down to 8x and testing ~515mhz FSB later to see if I can get more performance out of the ram, but it's already running at 560mhz at a 5:6 ratio, 333/800 strap. I'm thinking that maybe even though the speed will go down, with tightened timings I can squeeze some more bandwidth out of it.

[Funky]

Yeah, i tried clocking my E6750 and it clocked easy. Its my chip, it suddenly gave out a while back, not its not booting at all with that chip.
RMA time.

[SuporterPoli]

Would you say that the P35 is better than the X38/X48 for a Q9450?

[nzbleach]

The Q9450 is going to hit a hard FSB wall well before the chipset reaches its limits. It comes down to what GPU configuration your looking at.

[SuporterPoli]

9800gx2.

[WizardofOz]

Anyone experienced Problems at around 402-405 FSB with this Board. The reason I ask, is that I have been running a series of tests using Both Small FFT and Blend.
I know Praz has said that Small FFT are a waste of time for this board. Well after like 3 days of continuous testing. Here are some results that is causing me confusion and dilemma.


Results
FSB Multi Speed Test VCore NB VTT GTl 1/3 GTL 0/2 Results
402 9 3620 SFFT 1.35v 1.37v 1.30v 100 100 7h Passed
402 9 3620 Blend 1.375v 1.37v 1.30v 100 100 5min Failed
402 9 3620 Blend 1.375v 1.50v 1.35v 94 94 5min Failed
402 9 3620 Blend 1.363v 1.50v 1.35v 94 94 4.5h Failed


400 9 3600 Blend 1.375v 1.61v 1.35v 100 100 12.5h Pass
400 9 3600 Blend 1.375v 1.50v 1.35v 100 100 10.5h Pass
400 9 3600 Blend 1.375v 1.37v 1.35v 100 100 13.5h Pass

402 9 3620 SFFT 1.375v 1.37v 1.35v 100 100 8.5h Pass


The failures are always around the Large FFT (256K, 1024K) over 400 FSB.
I have tried 405FSB with Small FFT but Failed after 5.5h, with 1.375v VCore, so I guess if I raised VCore it would pass over 8.0h.


So the question is, is it a board problem or a memory problem?

[Praz]

Small FFT is not a waste of time as a test. It is a waste to use for overall stability testing as you yourself have shown in the above example. Failing large FFTs' at times can be difficult to pinpoint. The possibilities are memory, interaction between the memory and NB or between the CPU and NB.

[WizardofOz]

Small FFT is not a waste of time as a test. It is a waste to use for overall stability testing as you yourself have shown in the above example. Failing large FFTs' at times can be difficult to pinpoint. The possibilities are memory, interaction between the memory and NB or between the CPU and NB.

My Apologies for misquoting you, but as you can see I have passed Blend at 400 FSB but fails miserably around the 402 Mark, so can I not dismiss memory as a problem, since all all setting in DRAM are in Auto mode except for CL which I have set to 5-5-5-15 as per Crucial and Memset shows performance level = 8 which I think is pretty loose.

I have tried various NB,VTT, Memory and Vcore Voltages and I think my GTL interpretations are near the mark for both VTT and NB.

Anyway if you or anyone can suggests settings to try, that would be most welcome.

[Sparda]

Everytime I try to oc my quad above 3.3 Ghz and start prime95 the systems start automatically and then it ON and OFF rapidly several times and then start again as normal.

Did anybody experience this crap symptoms before.

The systems start automatically faster followed by several rapid ON and OFF when I clock the cpu higher and then start priming.




I already tired to troubleshooting anymore. Already working with this problem for more than a week. Some of the troubleshooting that I have done so far.

> Tested with 2 quad Q6600. One with bad batch with high VID and one is from batch 737B441 with low VID which can clock 4 ghz easily. FSB jumper on mobo are on CPU select. The problem is still there.

> Tested with several BIOS with Tmod CD. Problem still there. Tweaking the BIOS nearly the same like on anandtech. I even relaxing all the timing. Even tried all on AUTO. Problem still there.

> Ram is OCZ SLI with d9gmh chips. Should be no problem. But havent test with memtest. I dont think it memory related because the systems restart and rapidly ON and OFF.

> Power should be enough gamestream 700 with noctua fan. Pissed off with loud fan. Did this psu have any issues with this mobo?

> I just using and old 7900gt which should not eat lot of juice from the psu and put it on middle PCIe slot with 4x. I have a clearance issues with ram slot. What a bad layout. Which human that need the third PCIe slot with 1x ?? grrr

> Cooling should be no problem. Have 2 seperate loops on the system and small 60mm delta fan on mosfet. Even put some microchip on the PLL.


Should I RMA this board. Never RMA a mobo before since NF4 days. I wish I havent sold my p5k for this digital pwm.

HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

[C-N]

Everytime I try to oc my quad above 3.3 Ghz and start prime95 the systems start automatically and then it ON and OFF rapidly several times and then start again as normal.

Did anybody experience this crap symptoms before.

The systems start automatically faster followed by several rapid ON and OFF when I clock the cpu higher and then start priming.




I already tired to troubleshooting anymore. Already working with this problem for more than a week. Some of the troubleshooting that I have done so far.

> Tested with 2 quad Q6600. One with bad batch with high VID and one is from batch 737B441 with low VID which can clock 4 ghz easily. FSB jumper on mobo are on CPU select. The problem is still there.

> Tested with several BIOS with Tmod CD. Problem still there. Tweaking the BIOS nearly the same like on anandtech. I even relaxing all the timing. Even tried all on AUTO. Problem still there.

> Ram is OCZ SLI with d9gmh chips. Should be no problem. But havent test with memtest. I dont think it memory related because the systems restart and rapidly ON and OFF.

> Power should be enough gamestream 700 with noctua fan. Pissed off with loud fan. Did this psu have any issues with this mobo?

> I just using and old 7900gt which should not eat lot of juice from the psu and put it on middle PCIe slot with 4x. I have a clearance issues with ram slot. What a bad layout. Which human that need the third PCIe slot with 1x ?? grrr

> Cooling should be no problem. Have 2 seperate loops on the system and small 60mm delta fan on mosfet. Even put some microchip on the PLL.


Should I RMA this board. Never RMA a mobo before since NF4 days. I wish I havent sold my p5k for this digital pwm.

HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

The board is supposed to switch of following BIOS changes then power on to set the NB strap etc then switch of again before finally poweer on, posting & booting into windows.

Constant boot cycles indicates a problem most likely with the overclock.

I have run this board with 4 drives in RAID 0 + 2GB OCZ SLI's @ 1200MHz, Laing D5, 3870x2, Q6600 @ 3.8GHz with the GX700 PSU & it all plays nice.

If you look back through this thread you will find my rig & all the settings I used, maybe they can help

CN

P.S I hated my P5K DLX from day 1

[Eddie3dfx]

just picked up the lt version of this board but for some reason I'm showing an F6 on bootup with no video..
Any ideas?

x3210 cpu, 8800gt, 2 gigs of 1066 c ballistix, 700watt gamexstream, tried 4 pin and 8 pin power, reset cmos 10x, with long battery pulls, tried different video card slots, tried 1 stick of ram in all 4 slots, tested all components in other systems and everything works a okay, plugged in extra power via floppy cable.
no idea why it won't boot

[Sparda]

The board is supposed to switch of following BIOS changes then power on to set the NB strap etc then switch of again before finally poweer on, posting & booting into windows.

Constant boot cycles indicates a problem most likely with the overclock.

I have run this board with 4 drives in RAID 0 + 2GB OCZ SLI's @ 1200MHz, Laing D5, 3870x2, Q6600 @ 3.8GHz with the GX700 PSU & it all plays nice.

If you look back through this thread you will find my rig & all the settings I used, maybe they can help

CN

P.S I hated my P5K DLX from day 1

I think I have a bad board. Hell...I even receive one bad Sata cabel with this board. My matrix raid 0/5 array got corrupted when the board cannot connect to my third drive. I reconnect the cabel on my third drive and the drive still doesnt appear. Change the sata cabel and it all solved. Spend more than 15 hours rebuilding the array.

I know it normally off and then on after changing some values in BIOS. But mine would restart when start priming with high clock speed and then it OFF and ON rapidly more than 5 time before it start again normally.
This problem even start with a decent 3.4 Ghz with a slight bump on voltage.

I had a bunch of BIOS setting off copied in a notepad from nearly the whole thread. I have tried them all except some with high SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage. But the issues is still there.

I guees I doomed unless anybody can solved this prob. I wish I try this board on air before done with all the loop. It a nightmare redone all the 7/16 tube and 1/2 barb. This sucks......

[C-N]

But mine would restart when start priming with high clock speed and then it OFF and ON rapidly more than 5 time before it start again normally.
This problem even start with a decent 3.4 Ghz with a slight bump on voltage.

You may have a poor board but its not common. It just sounds unstable too me, will it run stock speed ?

If you are water cooling are you using a backplate to eliminate board warp as this alone can cause reboots mainly due to the board warping around the CPU socket so much the PWM's don't make good contact with the sink & they overheat then fail/reboot.

You also said your GX700 was loud!! if its loud then the fans you are using to blow air on the NB & PWM must be pretty limp to be quieter than the GX700 why don't you try some high CFM fans to rule out temps?

CN

[karateo]

If you are water cooling are you using a backplate to eliminate board warp as this alone can cause reboots mainly due to the board warping around the CPU socket

could this be the cause of my problem here?
http://csd.dficlub.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5680

[C-N]

could this be the cause of my problem here?
http://csd.dficlub.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5680

Doubt it.

CN

[karateo]

LOL!
I loosened the waterblock to be sure and to exclude this idea!


Anyone can help me with this?

Any photo of the HR-09 on the CPLs will be fine!
I have one right here sitting, and I don't know how to mount it without removing stock cooling

[BansheeAxo]

Someone still trying the crossfire on this board? Really performance leaves much to be desired, 1 vga gets better results in games.. crossfire is only for 3dmark.
Some bug????

[Sparda]

You may have a poor board but its not common. It just sounds unstable too me, will it run stock speed ?

If you are water cooling are you using a backplate to eliminate board warp as this alone can cause reboots mainly due to the board warping around the CPU socket so much the PWM's don't make good contact with the sink & they overheat then fail/reboot.

You also said your GX700 was loud!! if its loud then the fans you are using to blow air on the NB & PWM must be pretty limp to be quieter than the GX700 why don't you try some high CFM fans to rule out temps?

CN

It run stable on stock and up to about 3.3Ghz with 4 hours short prime. More than that it start to do that issues. The problem is it do that issues instantly when I start the prime with higher clock.

Yea I using pro mount backplate with fuzion block on the cpu only loop. I never remove and reapplied the TIM on the pwm because I heard it nicely applied. Beside this board is new and it sit on my cupboard for several month due to lack of free time rebuilding the rigg.

Dont know but I dont think temperature is an issue here. Nb are on mcw30 on second loop. Pwm with small 60mm delta fan with the casing open. I change the original gx700 with noctua nfp12 that spin with full speed. I dont think the heat on psu also causing the issues because it work like a charm with my previous p5k-e with the same quad.

Maybe or probably it a bad contact like you said on the pwm. I already remount all water block several time but it still unsolved. Maybe I diassamble the pc this weekend and test it on box without pro mount backplate. If the issues still there then the mobo is out. Any suggestion about new mobo for q6600 ?

OCZ xtc cooler on this board = NO pcie 16x any more . Maybe I missed their compability list

[Praz]

It just sounds unstable too me, will it run stock speed ?

It run stable on stock and up to about 3.3Ghz with 4 hours short prime. More than that it start to do that issues.

Have to agree with C-N on this. Probably just a case of improper settings.

[nzbleach]

Someone still trying the crossfire on this board? Really performance leaves much to be desired, 1 vga gets better results in games.. crossfire is only for 3dmark.
Some bug????

I agree, the crossfire performance was absolutely shocking. I went back to a single 8800GT.

[ninjaskija]

Hi guys.. I'm never posted here and i think i read most of the thread, but i want to ask u if u had some experiences with 4GB OCZ DDR2 PC2-8000 Platinum XTC witch I think they have Powerchips. Now i'm trying to test them at 500 FSB running memory at 1:1.

CPU Feature Page
Thermal Management Control................Enabled
PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Enabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled
CIE Function..............................Auto
Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled
Virtualization Technology.................Enabled
Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled

Main BIOS Page
Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2
Shutdown After AC Loss....................Disabled
O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0
CLOCK VC0 Divider.........................Auto
CPU Clock Ratio...........................6x
CPU Clock.................................500 MHz
Boot Up Clock.............................Auto
DRAM Speed................................333/667
PCIE Clock................................100MHz
PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X

CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled

Voltage Setting Page
CPU VID Control...........................Auto
CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto
DRAM Voltage Control......................2.190V
SB 1.05V Voltage..........................1.070V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.55V
NB Core Voltage...........................1.51V
CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.10V
VCore Droop Control.......................Disabled
Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V
GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong
Host Slew Rate............................Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control...................Disabled
CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt.......................N/A
CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt......................N/A
North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................N/A

The problem is that i experience some stability issues testing with prime95 blend after 2h or so.
Do u think i need more juice to NB? or is a tRFc setting ? donno..

[drnick79]

Hi guys.. I'm never posted here and i think i read most of the thread, but i want to ask u if u had some experiences with 4GB OCZ DDR2 PC2-8000 Platinum XTC witch I think they have Powerchips. Now i'm trying to test them at 500 FSB running memory at 1:1.

CPU Feature Page
Thermal Management Control................Enabled
PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Enabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled
CIE Function..............................Auto
Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled
Virtualization Technology.................Enabled
Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled

Main BIOS Page
Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2
Shutdown After AC Loss....................Disabled
O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0
CLOCK VC0 Divider.........................Auto
CPU Clock Ratio...........................6x
CPU Clock.................................500 MHz
Boot Up Clock.............................Auto
DRAM Speed................................333/667
PCIE Clock................................100MHz
PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X

CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled

Voltage Setting Page
CPU VID Control...........................Auto
CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto
DRAM Voltage Control......................2.190V
SB 1.05V Voltage..........................1.070V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.55V
NB Core Voltage...........................1.51V
CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.10V
VCore Droop Control.......................Disabled
Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V
GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong
Host Slew Rate............................Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control...................Disabled
CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt.......................N/A
CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt......................N/A
North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................N/A

The problem is that i experience some stability issues testing with prime95 blend after 2h or so.
Do u think i need more juice to NB? or is a tRFc setting ? donno..

Hey Ninjaskija,

Your RAM is 2x2gb sticks? I've had no luck with stability even at stock with my gskill 2x2gb 1066 sticks...I've had the same issues observed by Lestat in this post with my dfi X48 board and e8400 cpu:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=177258

If you do get them running stable at a 500fsb, would you post your bios settings? I know it's a different board and different brand of ram, but I think the gskill sticks use powerchips too. Thanks!

I think Praz mentioned some testing with 2x2gb sticks a page or two ago on this thread and I'm eagerly awaiting his findings...

[Praz]

I thought I posted screenshots already but maybe not. Here's a shot of G.Skill 2x2GB at 1058MHz. If I get time this evening to finish the Crysis and UT3 benches I'll post up some screenshots of the E8400 at 4.0GHz, G.Skill 2x2GB at 1000MHz. Kind of a comparison to the post I did a few pages back using 2x1GB sticks.