There are golden Phenom X4 B3s out there capable of hitting 3.2Ghz on air!

[3dfxManiacz]

AMD@Penang shared us the information that there are actually a couple of Phenom X4 B3s capable of running 3.2Ghz stable at undisclosed voltage and week production batches. The first batch of the retail B3 samples distributed to reviewers were definitely the early average B3s focusing more on quick TLB-Fix ready Phenom CPUs review. However, when conducting the yield performance tests under several different later production batches of the CPUs, there are actually quite a lot of B3s capable of hitting 3Ghz mark stable on generic air cooling. This is definitely a good news for AMD overclockers out there who wants to play "Hunting for Golden Chip" game. Let the season begins!

Source: http://xpentor.com/mamboserver/index...d=972&Itemid=1

Well probably one of our xtremists got one of them
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=183025

[Jimmer411]

This is good to see, but sadly wont draw any attention here

[Kai Robinson]

Too little, too late, imo. Next architecture please...

[jas420221]

This is good to see, but sadly wont draw any attention here

Too little, too late, imo. Next architecture please...

Agreed.

Nice to see some air results though.

[halo112358]

I don't understand why I'd play "hunt for the golden chip" when I can just go out and buy a yorkfield or wolfdale and be practically guaranteed a golden chip :-p

[Kai Robinson]

Its sad in a way, to see AMD ruined by the dithering management and the fact that so many key people have already left (i'm betting because they didn't like el-presidente ruiz).

I *want* AMD to be decent competition, but come on, theres so much more they can do - wheres the new K10 based dualcores already with NO pointless L3 cache?

[duploxxx]

I don't understand why I'd play "hunt for the golden chip" when I can just go out and buy a yorkfield or wolfdale and be practically guaranteed a golden chip :-p

yes we all know that for +6 months, if nothing more to say then stay in the intel forum, there are actually people that like to test and have these chips because they are difficult (read knowledge on htt-nb-mem-etc) to OC and not just pump up the fsb and vcore.

[triple_A]

if 9550's are also able to pull off speeds like this it makes for pretty nice cpus at their current price.

Or are phenoms still awefully fsb limited so you need an unlocked multi in order to get past 2.5Ghz?

[Donnie27]

if 9550's are also able to pull off speeds like this it makes for pretty nice cpus at their current price.

Or are phenoms still awefully fsb limited so you need an unlocked multi in order to get past 2.5Ghz?

Even @ 3.2GHz what C2D speed is that, 2.8GHz? AMD fantoys will miss this point but it just like bragging about Smithfield while X2 pimpslapped it at almost stock speed I'll be glad when K10.5 or 11 ships and provides some real competition.

[Donnie27]

I don't understand why I'd play "hunt for the golden chip" when I can just go out and buy a yorkfield or wolfdale and be practically guaranteed a golden chip :-p

Not if you're an AMD Fan and don't buy Intel

[AliG]

I'm not an amd fanboy, but rather someone that made the mistake of not doing their homework (especially when I bought my rig right before conroe's launch), so this will be an awesome upgrade for my am2 rig

[Jakko]

Even @ 3.2GHz what C2D speed is that, 2.8GHz?

I understand your point, but I do think a 3.2 Ghz phenom will be comparable to a 3.2 Ghz C2D, if not outperform it.

So I actually don't really understand your point.... I guess.

[ryboto]

Even @ 3.2GHz what C2D speed is that, 2.8GHz? AMD fantoys will miss this point but it just like bragging about Smithfield while X2 pimpslapped at almost stock speed I'll be glad when K10.5 or 11 ships and provides some real competition.

I don't think the clock speed difference is that high, maybe for core2 vs k8, but there were definitely some improvements in K10.

[Mindfield]

I would love to play with Phenom cpu and DFI 790FX. But I really got sick of the chip lottery that goes along with AMD overclocking. It was so frustrating getting a dud stepping when others were cruising on stock volts. I have a lot of K8's laying around that were disappointed.
On the other hand I have 2 core chips that exceeded my expectations and never left me wanting.

While this article is encouraging to see them getting some good scaling, it just has the same smell to it that the 3ghz demonstration they had before they released the Phenom quad's.

[freeloader]

Its sad in a way, to see AMD ruined by the dithering management and the fact that so many key people have already left (i'm betting because they didn't like el-presidente ruiz).

I *want* AMD to be decent competition, but come on, theres so much more they can do - wheres the new K10 based dualcores already with NO pointless L3 cache?

Too bad Ruiz is still around...he's a company killer wherever he goes.

[hollo]

yes we all know that for +6 months, if nothing more to say then stay in the intel forum, there are actually people that like to test and have these chips because they are difficult (read knowledge on htt-nb-mem-etc) to OC and not just pump up the fsb and vcore.

have you given up on the AMDolics Anonymous meetings?

[triple_A]

Even @ 3.2GHz what C2D speed is that, 2.8GHz? AMD fantoys will miss this point but it just like bragging about Smithfield while X2 pimpslapped it at almost stock speed I'll be glad when K10.5 or 11 ships and provides some real competition.

well as far as i know phenom does scale pretty well with clock increases.
So i also think a 3.2Ghz phenom can keep up pretty well with 3-3.2Ghz kentfield..

So i was saying; if a phenom 9550 can be clocked to those speeds it will be really cool chip because it's significantly cheaper then a q6600.

[Donnie27]

I'm not an amd fanboy, but rather someone that made the mistake of not doing their homework (especially when I bought my rig right before conroe's launch), so this will be an awesome upgrade for my am2 rig

Nope, it had nothing to do with that though AliG. That was kind of understandable because there were some doubts about if Core would really be that fast. Then some thought it was too good to be true and cost what it did. I'd not give anyone a hard time on that one.

This time it is Different. All of the Proof is there. There isn't any Guesswork, Doubt and etc.., though some are still in denial.

[naokaji]

I don't think the clock speed difference is that high, maybe for core2 vs k8, but there were definitely some improvements in K10.

true, look at video encoding performance of k10 vs k8 (k8's weak spot) it improved massively.

but, k10 simply isnt a amazing chip like c2d, it would slap a 4ghz p4... but no chance against c2d, sorry but intel clearly won this round.

[jas420221]

yes we all know that for +6 months, if nothing more to say then stay in the intel forum, there are actually people that like to test and have these chips because they are difficult (read knowledge on htt-nb-mem-etc) to OC and not just pump up the fsb and vcore.

Try since the release of C2D architecture... like what, 1.5 years????

I understand your point, but I do think a 3.2 Ghz phenom will be comparable to a 3.2 Ghz C2D, if not outperform it.

So I actually don't really understand your point.... I guess.

Thats the point. Clock for clock Phenom is slower than C2D architecutre. A 3.2Ghz phenom does not perform as well as a 3.2Ghz Quad. We arent even talking Penryn either which makes that small gap larger.

So i was saying; if a phenom 9550 can be clocked to those speeds it will be really cool chip because it's significantly cheaper then a q6600.

Ehhh, no. Thats the thing. A Q6600 can be had for $199 at Microcenter. A quick look for the 9550 gives me $210.

[irev210]

I understand your point, but I do think a 3.2 Ghz phenom will be comparable to a 3.2 Ghz C2D, if not outperform it.

So I actually don't really understand your point.... I guess.

What is really sad is many people are buying Dell Inspiron 530's and just BSEL modding from 2.4GHz to 3GHz on stock mobo/voltage.


When every Core 2 Quad can be overclocked to 3GHz on stock voltage that tells you something.

Pretty much all core 2 quads can hit at least 3.6GHz.

So I dont really understand what the point of comparing a 3.2GHz core 2 quad to a Phenom is anyway since when overclocked @ best case senarios it would be 3.6-4GHz vs 3.2GHz.

Any way you look at it, Intel currently has a better offering. That doesn't mean AMD wont ever again, etc... but lets be realistic.

[triple_A]

Try since the release of C2D architecture... like what, 1.5 years????

Thats the point. Clock for clock Phenom is slower than C2D architecutre. A 3.2Ghz phenom does not perform as well as a 3.2Ghz Quad. We arent even talking Penryn either which makes that small gap larger.

Ehhh, no. Thats the thing. A Q6600 can be had for $199 at Microcenter. A quick look for the 9550 gives me $210.

Over here in NL a 9550 starts at a little under 150euro.

[Donnie27]

well as far as i know phenom does scale pretty well with clock increases.
So i also think a 3.2Ghz phenom can keep up pretty well with 3-3.2Ghz kentfield..

So i was saying; if a phenom 9550 can be clocked to those speeds it will be really cool chip because it's significantly cheaper then a q6600.

But Q6600 will clock higher than 3.2GHz. I'm not trying to compare a Penryn at 3.2GHz already or something like the Q6600 or etc... Who said Clock for Clock equals?

http://techreport.com/articles.x/14424/4

[keithlm]

A 3.2Ghz phenom does not perform as well as a 3.2Ghz Quad.

Interesting. I have not seen any 3.2Ghz Phenom benchmarks to support your statement.

Until I see such a benchmark then your statement is a "theory". You may be correct. On the other hand it is possible that your theory is not correct. There is no way of knowing at this time since no such benchmarks exist.

Although it appears that we might have benchmarks at that speed soon.

[triple_A]

But Q6600 will clock higher than 3.2GHz. I'm not trying to compare a Penryn at 3.2GHz already or something like the Q6600 or etc... Who said Clock for Clock equals?

http://techreport.com/articles.x/14424/4

I know Q6600's clock higher, 9550's are cheaper (or atleast they are over here ) so that put's it at around the same price/performance ratio.

But if the netherlands is the only country where a 9550 is cheaper than a q6600; sure, if a q6600 costs the same or even less than a 9550 it's a way better deal.