9800GTX Review thread

[Leeghoofd]

Some peeps are so small minded they just post and don't even read the reviews... They got their minds made up by the hype around it... they prolly never payed 600 dollars for a GFX card out of their own pocket... sadly some will never see the light at the end of the tunnel...

Bang for the buck it's a great card...

[Tonucci]

Yeah, the naming scheme suggested it would be something faster maybe an new design, thats why people got mad and felt tricked by nvidia. But it doesnt mean that its not great for the price.

[karateo]

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sorry, but i wanted to make sure that people will read this

[grimREEFER]

Yeah, the naming scheme suggested it would be something faster maybe an new design, thats why people got mad and felt tricked by nvidia. But it doesnt mean that its not great for the price.

a little less than a year ago the 8800gts 320mb was out for the same price. so we've come along way since then, but idk, an 8800gts 512 is pretty cheap atm too.

[cegras]

One thing I found funny is that SKY finds the X2 playing fairly well against the GTX, while in most reviews like [H] and Tweaktown X2 ends up being smashed. How odd. Especially in places where [H] claims the X2 is behind, yet it only falls behind in 50% of the FPS graph, and places like Tweaktown that like to adjust scales to show margins of wins as larger or smaller depending on which side is winning.

[Bo_Fox]

How dare you forget Legitreviews (one of my favorites)!

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/686/1/

[Leeghoofd]

Legit added mate : my humble apologies to forget the BEST WEBSITE ever ....

And again a good ending to their review :

Legit Bottom Line: The GeForce 9800 GTX doesn't offer a big jump in gaming performance over the GeForce 8800 GTX, but the price is right.




@Cegras : one of the reasons we make these bundled threads to gather all info and then to compare... it all depends on driver versions as not all cards are retested at the same time wit the same hardware... so there can be differences...
I look mostly at the Canucks, Bjorn 3D and Guru3D as they are pretty straightforward and give ya accurate and concise info... Some websites are so full of info that it is so hard to compare... HardOCP does it each time with maximum playble settings, I can dig that but the graphs are so confusing that in the end all the work they put into it, is mostly misunderstood by many...
Secondly look at some posts here, clearly indicating peeps don't read all the text or just base their opinion on something they heard or looked at in a flash...

[bluehaze]

Agreed, it's funny how many folks automatically say "It's just an OC GTS" LOL I suspect these are the same people that have been running GTS the last few months on their Dell XPS or Alienware whatever and don't understand all the differences because they are looking at reviews of a stock clocked 9800GTX vs thier GTS, GTX whatever...

The OC potential of this card is huge and will make quite an impact can't wait to get mine and play!

[revenant]

I paid $706 for one 8800GTX on november 10th of 2006 (just checked) so considering the 9800GTX is a small upgrade at sock clocks, even more OC'd, and you can get two of them for the price we were paying for one 8800GTX at the time of it's release, I think it's a pretty damn good buy.

[Exedy]

GTS G92 $ 220
GTX $ 300

bang for the buck for you guys who must have all the "new goods"

8800 owners please next stop gx2

[jas420221]

Agreed, it's funny how many folks automatically say "It's just an OC GTS" LOL I suspect these are the same people that have been running GTS the last few months on their Dell XPS or Alienware whatever and don't understand all the differences because they are looking at reviews of a stock clocked 9800GTX vs thier GTS, GTX whatever...

The OC potential of this card is huge and will make quite an impact can't wait to get mine and play!

Please educate me...What are the differences then?
Same SP, same ROPs etc right?
What core is it again?
What makes the o/c potential on this card huge in comparison to the other chips you listed??

[SKYMTL]

One thing I found funny is that SKY finds the X2 playing fairly well against the GTX, while in most reviews like [H] and Tweaktown X2 ends up being smashed. How odd. Especially in places where [H] claims the X2 is behind, yet it only falls behind in 50% of the FPS graph, and places like Tweaktown that like to adjust scales to show margins of wins as larger or smaller depending on which side is winning.

I have to agree on this one since my own eyes didn't believe it and I saw it over and over again. [H]'s way of benching is quite a bit different from ours but I will have to draw your attention to the Tweaktown review for a bit of an explaination.

I think Tweaktown is hitting into a CPU bottleneck since they seem to not be benching at high detail settings in their tests. I am saying this because their methodology is a bit vague on this point (if someone can find otherwise, let me know) but even when they bench at high quality AA and AF, they only benched WiC @ 1280 x1024 where the 3870X2 won't stretch its legs:

LINK

Also, they used 2GB of DDR2 while I used 4GB of DDR3 which pays for itself in a Vista environment. Their CPU is operating 500Mhz slower than mine as well. IMO, all these things contribute to the HD3870X2 being able to stretch its legs with our setup quite a bit more.

[cegras]

While it's nice to see the X2 being able to prove itself, what this shows that indeed, in systems that bottleneck the GPU more, nvidia comes out through some bizarre mix of .. whatever they do. But then again, as more and more people slowly begin to migrate to larger bandwidth platforms like DDR3, and new architectures, perhaps we'll see what the effect of removing bottlenecks on the GPU is.

[bluehaze]

Please educate me...What are the differences then?
Same SP, same ROPs etc right?
What core is it again?
What makes the o/c potential on this card huge in comparison to the other chips you listed??

12 layer PCB, More stable power - 2xPCIe connectors, Ever volt mod a graphics card before?

[jas420221]

12 layer PCB, More stable power - 2xPCIe connectors, Ever volt mod a graphics card before?

Oh ok.... the things that matter to .0001% of people that own them. Thanks for clarifying.

So any real differences that matter to the vast majority of owners that dont volt mod or even overclock or is it exactly like I said?

Yes, I have volt modded my share of cards before..

[bluehaze]

Oh ok.... the things that matter to .0001% of people that own them. Thanks for clarifying.

So any real differences that matter to the vast majority of owners that dont volt mod or even overclock or is it exactly like I said?

Yes, I have volt modded my share of cards before..

Sorry, I thought this was Xtreme Systems forum? .0001% don't volt mod and don't overclock? Dude, you shoulda got a Dell

[Exedy]

.0001% don't volt mod and don't overclock?

Yep

You are talking on XS, but not only XS members buy 98GTX lol

[Origin_Unknown]

Sorry, I thought this was Xtreme Systems forum? .0001% don't volt mod and don't overclock? Dude, you shoulda got a Dell

im one of those people i blew up a psu and a cpu the last time i tried...

well im one of those people for a few days anyway

[Leeghoofd]

MMMI read today ( think it was on madshrimps) that Nvidia will make the X2 only for a shortperiod of time... max 3-4 months then it's EOL... but I cannot find that article anymore (maybe they had to pull it ) So Nvidia will do an Intel X38-48 story on us then... also noted in that article was that 8800GTS 512 will become 9800GT...( if I recall correctly )

Don't shoot me just telling you what I read....

[bluehaze]

im one of those people i blew up a psu and a cpu the last time i tried...

well im one of those people for a few days anyway

I am really curious to know the story but don't wan't to derail the thread LOL


Leeghoof, I also heard that the 9800GX2 was only in production for a short time but I didn't hear about the 8800GTS becoming 9800 GT.

[Dainas]

Bingo.

BOY people are on a hair trigger when it comes to this card...

People just wanted to see Nvidia truely let its DX10 hardware stretch its legs. That why soo many of us were wound up, we were holding our breath and were still left wondering what could have been :P Great review though as always SKYMTL

[railmeat]

true

100% agree

totally agree,thought atleast a 1gig gddr4 card...sticking with my 8800gtx thank you.

and not for nothing u should not have to overclock the almighty 9800gtx to beat out other cards currently on the market...really sad nvidia.8800gtx\ultra for the single card win still.

[jas420221]

Sorry, I thought this was Xtreme Systems forum? .0001% don't volt mod and don't overclock? Dude, you shoulda got a Dell

Sorry I didnt clarify. I wasnt specifically talking about people here I was thinking/talking the whole market. But OCFX hit the nail on the head.

Yep

You are talking on XS, but not only XS members buy 98GTX lol

im one of those people i blew up a psu and a cpu the last time i tried...

well im one of those people for a few days anyway

Anyway, thats great for us, but still leaves my original question unanswered.

[icecpu]

just paid $60 for step up program from 8800gts 512mb, because my G92 overclock nothing

[bluehaze]

If your not gonna OC it's pointless to buy this card might as well buy 8800GT or 9600GT and call it a day. But if you are gonna overclock



I want to see a Vmod with this card over 1ghz core LOL