The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[TKC]

Did you use all of these switches as well? --> /pbnc /n

Yes, tried "/pbnc /n" and "/n", both have ROMID error.

[kup]

Yes, tried "/pbnc /n" and "/n", both have ROMID error.

Are you actually using the ES version?

[wilson]

Everest 4.50 gives you a few more readings in the sensor sections.

[eSp!s0]

yes ok but when you have time try 1hrs~ of goldmemory very best for me over all software...

I forgot to say that I also did Prime Blend-Test over night. Together with Memtest2.01 (today 2passes, ~50minutes), OCCT Ram for over 8hours and gaming 2hours it`s enough for me to say system is stable.
I don`t need any other programs for myself to feel that system is stable



I tested 515x7 for OC yesterday and I also made this little comparison to 450x8.

All tested with:
XP32-Bit, G.Skill 2x2GB 8500 (GBPK) = 3328MB Windows, E6750 @ TRU120E, Bios 1004, Zotac 8800GTS 512 AMP! 750/1878/1050, Driver 174.74 (AM3+3DM06 perhaps later)

450x8=3600, 333Strap, 5:6, 1080Ram PL7:
CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Auto]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [8]

FSB Frequency [450]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [333MHz]
PCIE Frequency [100]

DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency [1080MHz]
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Auto]
5-5-5-15-...-52-...

DRAM Static Read Control [Auto]
Ai Clock Twister [Moderate]
Transaction Booster [Disabled]
Boost Level [0]
Performancelevel 7

CPU Voltage [1.35000]
CPU PLL Voltage [Auto]
North Bridge Voltage [1.39v]
DRAM Voltage [1.96v]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.20v]
South Bridge Voltage [1.050]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]

CPU GTL Reference [0.63x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [Auto]
SB 1.5V Voltage [Auto]

Read: 9580MB/s Write: 8202MB/s Copy: 9110MB/s Latency: 53.3ns



515x7=3605, 333Strap, 1:1, 1030Ram PL9:
CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [7]

FSB Frequency [515]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [333MHz]
PCIE Frequency [100]

DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency [1030MHz]
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Auto]
5-5-5-15-...-52-...

DRAM Static Read Control [Auto]
Ai Clock Twister [Moderate]
Transaction Booster [Disabled]
Boost Level [1]
Performancelevel 9

CPU Voltage [1.35000]
CPU PLL Voltage [Auto]
North Bridge Voltage [1.39v]
DRAM Voltage [1.96v]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.20v]
South Bridge Voltage [1.050]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]

CPU GTL Reference [0.63x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [Auto]
SB 1.5V Voltage [Auto]

Read: 9673MB/s Write: 9318MB/s Copy: 9992MB/s Latency: 52.6ns

[TKC]

Are you actually using the ES version?

Yes, I am using AFU236U.exe, and I have flashed to RF 219 successully something surprised me.
The problem is AFU236U just won't work in PC-DOS of Ghost 2003 bootable rescue disk which I created years ago. By changing to genuine MS-DOS from Win98, bingo!

[timko] and kup, thanks for your reply.

[p2501]

Ok now, I joined the Maximus Rampage Club as of now. I have set it to the same values as with the Maximus 0505 BIOS and so far there is no performance gain or hit. So far so good. I wonder if I get to run the box stable now, because with all Maximus BIOSes I've had random reboots (for example running 3 days on dual FAH SMP and then reboot) on settings that would do Prime and OCCT Ram all day and night. Did anyone experience something similar and if so, how did you get rid of this? This is really starting to bother me.

[Spyrus]

Note: lowering cpu mhz lowers also everest latency/memory bandwidth.

[Stanley Pain]

I think my Corsair Dominators are dying a slow death on me . Starting to get DET RAM errors when running under stock speeds, and even some IRQL_LESS_THAN bluescreens.

Might have to fill out and RMA. Here's hoping I can get the RAM shipped to me first.

[M-XXXX]

pull the chip for a few mins with power removed ofcourse

Try this and doesn't help. Any more ideas?

[Spyrus]

According to my table you are indeed at PL = 9
with strap 333@CAS5@1:1@Disabled/Level 1
but it is strange that you have better bandwidth/latency,
i did not expect that since you are on the same strap,lower memory mhz.
PL=8 is possible there with more vmch.

[Grnfinger]

test the dimms at stock speed using memtest if you have not done it yet, this board gives alot of det dram hangs, irq error is more than likely NB volts

[eSp!s0]

According to my table you are indeed at PL = 9
with strap 333@CAS5@1:1@Disabled/Level 1
but it is strange that you have better bandwidth/latency,
i did not expect that since you are on the same strap,lower memory mhz.
PL=8 is possible there with more vmch.

Yes, I will test on but I am at 1,39VNB and don`t want to go much higher because of passiv aircooling NB with stockcoolers from the board(non-SE).

515x7 1030ram is also ~30points better in 3DM06 but ~3000points worse in AM3 than 450x8 1080ram.
Big problem is, that 515x8 1030 Relax0 isn`t booting, but 450x8 1080Relax0 is stable!?

[fordf250]

Put a big fan on the nb and ram, 120mm. I got to 540fsb with the non-se with stock heatsink and 1.7Vnb with the nb temp still below 40C.

[Dostoyevsky77]

Everest 4.50 gives you a few more readings in the sensor sections.

Oh, dude! That's so cool! The first thing I noticed was loss of NB/SB temps. Is the latest version posted on the Everest forum? It's so hard to find their beta builds. I'd appreciate a linky.

Grnfinger, thanks a lot for pointing me in the direction of 0219. It took a while to find it, but I'm straight now.

Has anyone been able to tighten any of the FSB channel phases? I can POST with channel 2 in, but no OS. Any of the others give me no POST.

So far, I've squeezed some modest gains out:

[p2501]

I asked already in the Maximus Rampage Mod thread, but since this problem might be connected to the board itself I figured i might ask in here too.

Is or was anyone experiencing random reboots after several days running with settings that are at least 15 hours Prime and 8 hours OCCT RAM stable? At least I am and I'm wondering how to solve this..

[eSp!s0]

There is no more space in my case for a normal fan 80-120mm. Perhaps I will order Antec Spot Cool in future.

Here is where I am. Over night it passed Prime Custom Test "In-Place-FFTs" for over 10h and 2 passes Memtest without errors. Now I am testing Prime Blend Test and if it will be stable, I will try 533x7, but for the beginning:

[Grnfinger]

Oh, dude! That's so cool! The first thing I noticed was loss of NB/SB temps. Is the latest version posted on the Everest forum? It's so hard to find their beta builds. I'd appreciate a linky.

Grnfinger, thanks a lot for pointing me in the direction of 0219. It took a while to find it, but I'm straight now.

Has anyone been able to tighten any of the FSB channel phases? I can POST with channel 2 in, but no OS. Any of the others give me no POST.

So far, I've squeezed some modest gains out:

Have you tried running PL-8 and all pull-ins enabled?
It should reduce latency and give you better bandwidth

[Grnfinger]

Has anyone noticed that the chipset drivers for the Maximus Formula and the Rampage are the same

8.3.0.1013

[DerekT]

Has anyone noticed that the chipset drivers for the Maximus Formula and the Rampage are the same

8.3.0.1013

Has anyone noticed that the X48 is just a higher binned result of the X38 and as such, the chipset is the same product with a higher stabiliy testing algorithm.

Actually, for Intel to use such a nomenclature proves their disregard for Integer version vs Decimal version standards. Just as Nvidia has also done with their 680i --> 780i --> 790i

Go figure

[Grnfinger]

yes thank you we are well aware of this old news

[Dostoyevsky77]

Have you tried running PL-8 and all pull-ins enabled?
It should reduce latency and give you better bandwidth

About the same for me, actually. Thanks for the tip. And thanks for helping me with that other thing.

[Spyrus]

Yes, I will test on but I am at 1,39VNB and don`t want to go much higher because of passiv aircooling NB with stockcoolers from the board(non-SE).

515x7 1030ram is also ~30points better in 3DM06 but ~3000points worse in AM3 than 450x8 1080ram.
Big problem is, that 515x8 1030 Relax0 isn`t booting, but 450x8 1080Relax0 is stable!?

Yes because with high fsb you are overclocking mch although keeping PL the same. There are limits on this with PL+1 you can put less mch and keep pushing

[eSp!s0]

How I put less mch when OCing FSB? Or do you mean to lower TB Relax level?
I bet, english people would directly understand you

[wilson]

It seems that i and some others are getting the problem of fans spinning but no beep or post screen. My lcd poster does not light up or say anything and i have tried bios 0907 1004 and the rampage bios and still the same problem. After doing the cmos clear and battery removal for 20 min i still get it. The only way to boot up normal is to remove the power lead and plug it back in and it will boot fine and allow me to use windows and also reboot from windows and back. But when powered of for 20 mins or so the fans spinning and no beep or post screen is back......
DO I NEED TO RMA THIS MOBO!!!!!!!!
All parts worked fine in my P5K and i have removed ram and tried another cpu and checked all my leads in the case.



Ive just looked on the rampage formula forum at asus and peolpe are getting the same problem so it just shows that its the same mobo as the maximus ...

[ZenEffect]

yes thank you we are well aware of this old news