The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[Expat GriZ]

Just wondering if there are any QX9650 owners out there who are willing to share their detailed 4 Ghz + settings. I'm slowly creaping it up (@3.5 ghz now with 1.2 volts bios, 1.192 V showing in CPU-Z 10X Multi, everything else on Auto) Memory at 1123 Mhz with 5 5 5 18 2T. The Rampage bios is quite different and a bit daunting. 4 Ghz is my dream target on air. Any suggestions or setting would be greatly appreciated.

[gurusan]

Gurusan, You are going to want to reflash the RF BIOS. Your still showing as a P5E on your mem bench. It should say Formula Rampage. You probably didn't flash with all the correct switches to do the NVRam and bootblock which is probably what it being used to detect the MB. It might also maybe help get it stable as well, but I don't know on that front.

yeah I only used the /n switch....I'll reflash with the other switches tomorrow.

Thanks

[Maglin]

NP man. I figured that was what you did.

[XtremeTiramisu]

Gurusan:

How did you get rid of the trial version limitation in our v4.50.1330 newest final release Everest?

You got me want to check my mobo ID under Everest CPUID.
Under Everest Mobo info, it does states I've a Rampage formula though.
Also 1.44.1 CPUZ also reports I've a Rampage formula.
But I'd like to double check on that from Everest's CPUID

If anyone knows how to do that, pls let me know.

Here is a screenshot:
As you can see, prime smallfft stable isn't a problem at 475*8, 333 strap, 1140mhz DDRII. But prime blend is still hell of hard to get stable....and same problem with OCCT using MIX...
Stability is a bit better than MF bioses and very rare occassion you get a DET RAM hang unless your system is really unstable due to undervolting on the NB or else where you'd need to find out.


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 475
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1140
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 35
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Enabled

CPU Voltage : 1.52500
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.63
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.10
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[ZenEffect]

Gurusan:

How did you get rid of the trial version limitation in our v4.50.1330 newest final release Everest?

You got me want to check my mobo ID under Everest CPUID.
Under Everest Mobo info, it does states I've a Rampage formula though.
Also 1.44.1 CPUZ also reports I've a Rampage formula.
But I'd like to double check on that from Everest's CPUID

If anyone knows how to do that, pls let me know.

tools >>> everest cpuid?

or
alt+t then c (just c no alt)

i dont have the same version but i imagine its the same?

my everest is v4.20.1285 Beta
it works perfectly

[XtremeTiramisu]

tools >>> everest cpuid?

or
alt+t then c (just c no alt)

i dont have the same version but i imagine its the same?

my everest is v4.20.1285 Beta
it works perfectly

Thanks for your help but I meant how to get rid of the trial version limitation so I can view the restricted options

[ericab]

Thanks for your help but I meant how to get rid of the trial version limitation so I can view the restricted options

this day in-age, i would have assumed everyone had heard of bittorrent before;

guess not!


(note: i paid for mine)

[eva2000]

Gurusan:

How did you get rid of the trial version limitation in our v4.50.1330 newest final release Everest?

purchase a paid license for it !

[Newms118]

hey guys, still new to all this overclocking. i have my q6600 at 3.2 and my ballistix tracer 1066 ram running at 800 mhz using these settings

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : auto
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 800
DRAM Command Rate : auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: auto
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster : auto

CPU Voltage : set = 1.36 actual = 1.35
CPU PLL Voltage : auto, actual = 1.6
North Bridge Voltage : set = 1.49 actual = 1.48
DRAM Voltage : set = 2.08 actual 2.128
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.424
South Bridge Voltage : 1.056
Loadline Calibration : enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 1.072
North Bridge GTL Reference : auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.504

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

ive tried lowering my vcore and NB volt as much as i can but when i go any lower prime95 gives me blue screens in vista 32 bit or i get blue screens while prime95 is going and im looking at websites. any suggestions on what else i can do? i know this board is more capable. also i have my ram at 800 and low volt for fear of killing it, though its double sided so maybe it not effected by this problem? thanks

[Newms118]

o i forgot, bios is still 0907, still dont want to update to 1003 or 1004, should i go ahead and try?

[Droperidolum]

Hi! Who knows where does CPU PLL Voltage and SB voltage measure pionts situated?
Here are some measures and overvoltages by mobo idle/burn. (LoadLine Calibration Enabled)
I want to control Vpll and Vsb by DMM too.

[Jodiuh]

Along w/ NOD32, I really need to buy this. The beta's don't time out, but it would be nice to see everything.

[icecpu]

Thank you everyone for this great thread putting my Maximus rock solid stable now, say goodbye to DET DRAM.
I had several weeks of frustration this board getting hang DET DRAM.

[p2501]

What I wonder is how many people exactly had problems with Windows after doing this mod? I mean people who didn't do a full reinstall? I'm trying around with the 505 BIOS now but my experiences are not much different from 907, except that with 505 the box isn't booting at FBS 450 no matter what I do. I noticed ripple on 12v, maybe thats my problem..

[mazda_626]

here is my current settings and complaints before the bios change, please refrain from any comments on bad settings, I want to see if my current knowledge and the new rampage bios proves to make things better

Im currently still using the MF907 beta bios (most of the MF bios' appear to be beta )
I hate this board with a vengence, i went from a DFI expert to this, problem is i expected things to go just as smoothly as the DFI board, my mistake
currently my mobo is only stable when O/C'd and with the two different types of ram, which is confusing to me but meh.
currently room temp is warm, about 28-30c (estimate), mobo temp is 38c, cpu idle is 45c, cpu load is 65c. all according to Speedfan, coretemp shows idle as 42,39,33,32c so all is normalish.
I use every fan port possible with success in viarable fan speeds.
I've only had this mobo since mid December, played with it for a month and found it likes all the ram modules, remove either kit and the o/c drops drop the multi and the FSB wont go up without alot of voltages.
in reality, this is probably due to the amount of HDD's, heat and the ram along with my noobness. but i tried many things and just cant get over 400FSB with the current setup and bios.
I also cant restart the computer without hitting the reset switch. it will shut down and restart but on OS hand over, it just has a blank screens, hit the reset switch and when the OS sarts, it ask if i want to boot into safe mode. only ever happens when i restart from OS, restart from bios is fine. could be a raid 0 bug.
occasionally the system will hang at the bios post screen, so i uploaded a pic i like to look at just to ease the pain, then hit the reset switch.
with probe 2 installed, i get a bios warning stsating the SB is too hot, this can be from cold boot

currently rock solid stable and here are the settings

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
(- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9)
FSB Frequency : 378
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1007
DRAM Command Rate : T2
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : A
Row Refresh Cycle Time : A
Write Recovery Time : A
Read to Precharge Time : A

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : A
Write to Read Delay (S) : A
Write to Read Delay (D) : A
Read to Read Delay (S) : A
Read to Read Delay (D) : A
Write to Write Delay (S) : A
Write to Write Delay (D) : A
DRAM Static Read Control: A
Ai Clock Twister : A
Transaction Booster : A

CPU Voltage : 1.1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.58
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.42
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : E
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : A
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : A
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : A
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
(- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9)
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

I shall now hunt down the everest download (page 2 i think) and post some scores. anything else people want before i move to the rampage bios?

I suppose i cant say i hate this mobo, it is a challenge to get stable but atleast it's easir to work with than the gigabyte DQ6 or so I've heard.

Before i do spam the thread with everst and temp pics, along with 3Dmark scores, I'll make a dual boot of XP, then i will use the same OS with the new bios, just to keep things constant.
So it will take a few days, thought some people waiting for results may wish to know

[cyrixMII300]

hello everyone. find here my results and settings. this is coming from memory mind you. i would go home later tonight and double confirm the values.

Current Bios Version Used is 0907 with XP SP2. 

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual 
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO 
CPU Ratio Control : Manual 
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1199
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual 
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 42
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Enabled
Boost Level : 0
CPU Voltage : Auto 
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : Auto
DRAM Voltage : Auto
FSB Termination Voltage : Auto
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt 
SB LED Selection : SB Volt 
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt 
Voltiminder LED : 

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled 
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled 

Advanced CPU Configuration 
CPU Ratio Control : Manual 
- Ratio CMOS Setting :9 
C1E Suppport : Disabled 
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled 
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled 


USB Configuration 
USB Functions: Enabled 
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

[p2501]

cyrixMII300, i would be very careful with all those voltages you have set to "AUTO", this board overvolts alot of them. So if I were you I would start sorting out the voltages your board/cpu really needs while keeping a close watch to them via BIOS monitoring, Everest, whatnot so you don't kill your hardware. For example, what are your current vDIMM volts?

And btw, look at your load temps, over 15°C between the core pairs, you will have to reseat your HSF.

[Grnfinger]

If you find the Maximus hard to setup the bios, I would recommend not moving to the Rampage untill you learn the MF settings

[cyrixMII300]

cyrixMII300, i would be very careful with all those voltages you have set to "AUTO", this board overvolts alot of them. So if I were you I would start sorting out the voltages your board/cpu really needs while keeping a close watch to them via BIOS monitoring, Everest, whatnot so you don't kill your hardware. For example, what are your current vDIMM volts?

And btw, look at your load temps, over 15°C between the core pairs, you will have to reseat your HSF.

Thanks for the heads up mate. Actually i was planning on nailing down the volts of the entire system sometime this weekend (provided my wife doesnt get on my case that is).

As for the temps of the CPU. this is something that has been bugging me too. Unfortunately I just got to Rome and dont have a clue of where to get some good thermal paste which I need to have before proceeding with my plans to lap the Thermalright. Have to get to that one also ASAP.

Thanks again.

[ElEctric_EyE]

here is my current settings and complaints before the bios change, please refrain from any comments on bad settings, I want to see if my current knowledge and the new rampage bios proves to make things better

Im currently still using the MF907 beta bios (most of the MF bios' appear to be beta )
I hate this board with a vengence, i went from a DFI expert to this, problem is i expected things to go just as smoothly as the DFI board, my mistake
currently my mobo is only stable when O/C'd and with the two different types of ram, which is confusing to me but meh.
currently room temp is warm, about 28-30c (estimate), mobo temp is 38c, cpu idle is 45c, cpu load is 65c. all according to Speedfan, coretemp shows idle as 42,39,33,32c so all is normalish.
I use every fan port possible with success in viarable fan speeds.
I've only had this mobo since mid December, played with it for a month and found it likes all the ram modules, remove either kit and the o/c drops drop the multi and the FSB wont go up without alot of voltages.
in reality, this is probably due to the amount of HDD's, heat and the ram along with my noobness. but i tried many things and just cant get over 400FSB with the current setup and bios.
I also cant restart the computer without hitting the reset switch. it will shut down and restart but on OS hand over, it just has a blank screens, hit the reset switch and when the OS sarts, it ask if i want to boot into safe mode. only ever happens when i restart from OS, restart from bios is fine. could be a raid 0 bug.
occasionally the system will hang at the bios post screen, so i uploaded a pic i like to look at just to ease the pain, then hit the reset switch.
with probe 2 installed, i get a bios warning stsating the SB is too hot, this can be from cold boot

currently rock solid stable and here are the settings

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
(- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9)
FSB Frequency : 378
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1007
DRAM Command Rate : T2
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : A
Row Refresh Cycle Time : A
Write Recovery Time : A
Read to Precharge Time : A

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : A
Write to Read Delay (S) : A
Write to Read Delay (D) : A
Read to Read Delay (S) : A
Read to Read Delay (D) : A
Write to Write Delay (S) : A
Write to Write Delay (D) : A
DRAM Static Read Control: A
Ai Clock Twister : A
Transaction Booster : A

CPU Voltage : 1.1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.58
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.42
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : E
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : A
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : A
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : A
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
(- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9)
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

I shall now hunt down the everest download (page 2 i think) and post some scores. anything else people want before i move to the rampage bios?

I suppose i cant say i hate this mobo, it is a challenge to get stable but atleast it's easir to work with than the gigabyte DQ6 or so I've heard.

Before i do spam the thread with everst and temp pics, along with 3Dmark scores, I'll make a dual boot of XP, then i will use the same OS with the new bios, just to keep things constant.
So it will take a few days, thought some people waiting for results may wish to know

I notice you're a Q6600 user, keep an eye on the number of cores reported in the BIOS. I just reflashed 0219 and it reported 4. After tweaking, I noticed later it reports 2 cores. I know I can't be the only 1. I am curious what setting is making this happen.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=593

[me3850]

ftp asus need a password??

[ushatia76]

ftp asus need a password??

Try again: ftp://ftp.asus.com/

[GlowingBulb]

I had exactly the same issue when pushing an FSB above 455 with a Q6600 G0. Basically down to a couple of cores (0 & 1) dropping off the FSB due to not having the flexibility to alter the GTL. I'm hoping that I'll now be able to push further with the added setting in the 219 BIOS.

On a side note, when I was able to post with just 2 cores I could run Orthos etc quite stabilty on them. I guess its down to the CPU being 2 C2D's stuck together & there being a difference in the quality of the chips.

[zlojack]

What I wonder is how many people exactly had problems with Windows after doing this mod? I mean people who didn't do a full reinstall? I'm trying around with the 505 BIOS now but my experiences are not much different from 907, except that with 505 the box isn't booting at FBS 450 no matter what I do. I noticed ripple on 12v, maybe thats my problem..

I've had no problems with Windows so far. I still plan to do a full re-install in the near future because it's been messy with my vid card drivers and some other crap, as well as numerous crashes and BSODs from overclocking in the last little while.

It's such a huge PITA to do, but once it's done and clean, then I can do a more orderly installation of programs and hopefully improve the performance, which has been slowing down lately.

[zlojack]

Just wondering if there are any QX9650 owners out there who are willing to share their detailed 4 Ghz + settings. I'm slowly creaping it up (@3.5 ghz now with 1.2 volts bios, 1.192 V showing in CPU-Z 10X Multi, everything else on Auto) Memory at 1123 Mhz with 5 5 5 18 2T. The Rampage bios is quite different and a bit daunting. 4 Ghz is my dream target on air. Any suggestions or setting would be greatly appreciated.

I'm still working on mine. Got stable so far at 4.0 GHz with 9.5 x 421 (or 10x400) on ~1.40 - 1.41v (still testing this)

My ultimate goal is to get that to 10x420ish for 4.2+ GHz and 1100 MHz+ RAM 24/7

I'll see if I can post my (so far) stable 4.0 when I get home today.