[18th Anniversary] Asus Black Pearl - P5k-Premium Testing Report

[sesdave]

Keeping all these constant i had tried reducing the CPU voltage from 1.45v to 1.4375, and it seems this is the right voltage at which the system is stable. However I was wondering if i should try reducing any of the above voltage. And what should i ideally set "DRAM Static Read Control" to?

I am using the stock CPU fan, and my CPU is in the range of 50 - 65 c temperature and during high stress @ 65 - 73 c.

Thank you,
Rajeeb

!.4375 seems very high for running 3.2. You should be able to run 3.0-3.2 on 1.35v or less- what batch and VID is your CPU. You dont want temps like that - reduce vcore . I would recommend another HSF like mine or better - the stock fan is limited if you are overclocking. Also get some decent thermal paste like MX-2. Ideally DRAM static should =enabled for performance but you are probably best to leave disabled until you stabalise the overclock. Check my previous post for link explaining all the BIOS settings.

[Audioboxer]

How is this looking guys?

I'm about to go to bed, so I'll leave it for 5-6 hours.

CPU is around 40 idle.



One of two things I'm going to try if stable over 6 hours.

Reduce Vcore - Running at 1.55v just now for 3.5ghz clock.

Increase FSB to 450 and keep at 1.55v - 3.6ghz clock, then I'll run Orthos at 3.6ghz, and if stable try reducing Vcore again.

[sesdave]

How is this looking guys?

I'm about to go to bed, so I'll leave it for 5-6 hours.

CPU is around 40 idle.

One of two things I'm going to try if stable over 6 hours.

Reduce Vcore - Running at 1.55v just now for 3.5ghz clock.

Increase FSB to 450 and keep at 1.55v - 3.6ghz clock, then I'll run Orthos at 3.6ghz, and if stable try reducing Vcore again.

Your E6600 is a bit hot on prime - you want to try to get it down to round about 60c. http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/...perature-guide If you can reduce vcore or lap the CPU. Preferably both for maximum benefit -lol! What thermal paste have you got - I recommend MX-2 for great all round performance.No cure time and as good as As5 if not better. A better HSF would also help - the tuniq isnt one of the best around. My lilltle Ultima which is way smaller will outperform it http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=137838

That said it will only hit these temps running prime - not during gaming or app use. Mine used to do 60-62 on prime. You might find this thread of interest http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=155116 TinTIn had a good chip and ran 450x8 on low volts with his cooling setup. Note that apart from vcore/voDIMM he set all other volts/settings to minimum. You need to check yours will run with FSB 450 before you go for the overclock - try it with a lower multiplier.

[Audioboxer]

Your E6600 is a bit hot on prime - you want to try to get it down to round about 60c. http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/...perature-guide If you can reduce vcore or lap the CPU. Preferably both for maximum benefit -lol! What thermal paste have you got - I recommend MX-2 for great all round performance.No cure time and as good as As5 if not better. A better HSF would also help - the tuniq isnt one of the best around. My lilltle Ultima which is way smaller will outperform it http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=137838

That said it will only hit these temps running prime - not during gaming or app use. Mine used to do 60-62 on prime. You might find this thread of interest http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=155116 TinTIn had a good chip and ran 450x8 on low volts with his cooling setup. Note that apart from vcore/voDIMM he set all other volts/settings to minimum. You need to check yours will run with FSB 450 before you go for the overclock - try it with a lower multiplier.

Thanks

Paste is Artic Silver Ceramique.

Good news was it hit 8 hours stable in Orthos!

Now to see if I can bring the temps down... Slowly taking voltage down 1 notch at a time, and running orthos.

I'll post my BIOS settings in 5!





ps. I noticed TinTin only goes about 15/30 mins in Orthos! Is that really enough?

[sesdave]

Thanks

Paste is Artic Silver Ceramique.

Good news was it hit 8 hours stable in Orthos!

Now to see if I can bring the temps down...

I'll post my BIOS settings in 5!

ps. I noticed TinTin only goes about 15/30 mins in Orthos! Is that really enough?

Good news - I ran my e6600 24/7 at 3.6 with 1.5v idle 46c from when I bought it up until I sold it. If you can reduce temps by applying some of the suggestions all the better but I wouldnt get excited about it. Lapping will give the most no cost temp reduction benefit if ithe IHS is not even - if it is even/flat when checked with a razor dont bother as you will get minimal if any gain.
TinTin was posting an initial assessment of the boards capabilities for our benefit so he didnt do full runs - I am sure he could have run it prime 8+ if he had wanted to.

[Audioboxer]

Good news - I ran my e6600 24/7 at 3.6 with 1.5v idle 46c from when I bought it up until I sold it. If you can reduce temps by applying some of the suggestions all the better but I wouldnt get excited about it. Lapping will give the most no cost temp reduction benefit if ithe IHS is not even - if it is even/flat when checked with a razor dont bother as you will get minimal if any gain.
TinTin was posting an initial assessment of the boards capabilities for our benefit so he didnt do full runs - I am sure he could have run it prime 8+ if he had wanted to.

I'd prefer not to go through the process of dismantling everything to lap it (I know, lazy heh) - Also because I've never lapped a CPU before.

I run my Tuniq on lowest fan speed, so I could up it a bit.

Other good news is initial test shows stable on 1.53v - 1 notch down from 1.55.

I'll take it down another notch. Once I can get 20-30 mins stable at a certain voltage lower than 1.55, I'll then run another 8 hour test tonight.

Doubt I'll get it as low as 1.5v, 1.5v wouldn't boot into windows at 3.6ghz, and im at 3.53ghz just now.

It's not exceeding 60 now, but hitting it/hovering below, better?

1.53v


1.52v


1.51v
16mins then BSOD

1.5v
BSOD after 8 seconds

1.5v/1.51v are out of the question it seems...

Need to test 1.52 for longer to make sure it is fully stable - Could BSOD after 20-25-30 mins. I'll do another 8 hour test.

At least 1.52/1.53 were below/on 60, so hopefully one of the two pull through!

[sesdave]

I'd prefer not to go through the process of dismantling everything to lap it (I know, lazy heh) - Also because I've never lapped a CPU before.

I run my Tuniq on lowest fan speed, so I could up it a bit.
At least 1.52/1.53 were below/on 60, so hopefully one of the two pull through!

Up the fan speed without a doubt - then you can keep it on 3.6. Lapping is easy - see the guide. You just need some wet and dry of varoius grits and a piece of glass/mirror for a flat surface. If the IHS is not flat it will make a big difference.

[vcrajeeb]

!.4375 seems very high for running 3.2. You should be able to run 3.0-3.2 on 1.35v or less- what batch and VID is your CPU. You dont want temps like that - reduce vcore . I would recommend another HSF like mine or better - the stock fan is limited if you are overclocking. Also get some decent thermal paste like MX-2. Ideally DRAM static should =enabled for performance but you are probably best to leave disabled until you stabalise the overclock. Check my previous post for link explaining all the BIOS settings.

Well my CPU batch number is: L750A974
Stepping: G0
VID: 1.3250v

[sesdave]

Well my CPU batch number is: L750A974
Stepping: G0
VID: 1.3250v

Check that the HSF is seated properly - the pin attachments can look like they are properly secured into the MB when they are not.

[vcrajeeb]

Check that the HSF is seated properly - the pin attachments can look like they are properly secured into the MB when they are not.

I am planning on purchasing ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED. It comes with a Super Thermal Grease (ZM-STG1). Hope that will be fine, or should i go for some other thermal grease?

Please reply asap, as i am waiting to buy it right away.

[sesdave]

I am planning on purchasing ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED. It comes with a Super Thermal Grease (ZM-STG1). Hope that will be fine, or should i go for some other thermal grease?

Please reply asap, as i am waiting to buy it right away.

Personally I would get the HSF I have - the Thermal right Ultima-90. http://www.anandtech.com/casecooling...oc.aspx?i=3068
It has a small footprint and great performance.
Its the baby brother of the 120 extremee which if you want the best is the one to buy but its huge. If you decide to go this route get a good 92mm fan for it panaflo or sflex. You can use a 120 but I wouldnt bother.
MX-2 paste is the one I recommend. No cure time and not conductive like AS5 and great performance.http://www.xtremecomputing.co.uk/review.php?id=402

[jonny_ftm]

Well my CPU batch number is: L750A974
Stepping: G0
VID: 1.3250v

That's the worst I've seen. I thought all intel Q6600 CPUs VID didn't exceed 1.30!!

[sesdave]

That's the worst I've seen. I thought all intel Q6600 CPUs VID didn't exceed 1.30!!

Got to agree - he very unlucky. Is this the future for latest batches of the q6600?

[vcrajeeb]

That's the worst I've seen. I thought all intel Q6600 CPUs VID didn't exceed 1.30!!

Got to agree - he very unlucky. Is this the future for latest batches of the q6600?

Well, I tested my CPU using Core Temp 0.97.1 and PC Wizard 2008. Both of them showed different VID and that too very wide values:

CoreTemp 0.97.1 : 1.3250v
PC Wizard 2008 : 1.2125v

(please see the attached snapshots)

I have no idea whom to trust. Do you know any other software which gives the VID value?

Personally I would get the HSF I have - the Thermal right Ultima-90. http://www.anandtech.com/casecooling...oc.aspx?i=3068
It has a small footprint and great performance.
Its the baby brother of the 120 extremee which if you want the best is the one to buy but its huge. If you decide to go this route get a good 92mm fan for it panaflo or sflex. You can use a 120 but I wouldnt bother.
MX-2 paste is the one I recommend. No cure time and not conductive like AS5 and great performance.

I wanted to try Thermal right Ultima-90 as you recommended, but it is out of stock in newegg. So I went for ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED, as I am running short of time (my friend is in California, he will buy and bring it on Saturday). Hope this is good enough.

[sesdave]

Well, I tested my CPU using Core Temp 0.97.1 and PC Wizard 2008. Both of them showed different VID and that too very wide values:

CoreTemp 0.97.1 : 1.3250v
PC Wizard 2008 : 1.2125v
I wanted to try Thermal right Ultima-90 as you recommended, but it is out of stock in newegg. So I went for ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED, as I am running short of time (my friend is in California, he will buy and bring it on Saturday). Hope this is good enough.

The Zalamn will do the job of cooling your CPU. Must admit I had bever looked at VID in pcwizard as I mainly use it for displaying the Core temperatures.. I would go with Coretemp VID reading - I have sent an email to CPUID support asking where they read the VID from and why does it differ from Coretemp reading. Will post resposne.

[sesdave]

Well, I tested my CPU using Core Temp 0.97.1 and PC Wizard 2008. Both of them showed different VID and that too very wide values:

CoreTemp 0.97.1 : 1.3250v
PC Wizard 2008 : 1.2125v
I wanted to try Thermal right Ultima-90 as you recommended, but it is out of stock in newegg. So I went for ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED, as I am running short of time (my friend is in California, he will buy and bring it on Saturday). Hope this is good enough.

The Zalamn will do the job of cooling your CPU. Heres a review to cheer you up http://www.frostytech.com/articlevie...articleID=2045
Must admit I had never looked at VID in pcwizard as I use it for displaying the Core temperatures - I like the display better than coretemp-lol! I would go with Coretemp VID reading - I have sent an email to CPUID support asking where they read the VID from.

[vcrajeeb]

The Zalamn will do the job of cooling your CPU. Heres a review to cheer you up http://www.frostytech.com/articlevie...articleID=2045
Must admit I had never looked at VID in pcwizard as I use it for displaying the Core temperatures - I like the display better than coretemp-lol! I would go with Coretemp VID reading - I have sent an email to CPUID support asking where they read the VID from.

Hi Sesdave,
i am using Zalman cooler now. there is a significant drop in the cpu temp. On an average the CPU runs at around 45c under normal load. the max temp it reached when i applied load is 63c. Is this still high? the room temp at my place at this time of the year is near 39c.

I am running my machine at 3.00 Ghz. (333Mhz x 9). I would like to OC it to 3.2GHz if it is safe. please help...

[sesdave]

Hi Sesdave,
i am using Zalman cooler now. there is a significant drop in the cpu temp. On an average the CPU runs at around 45c under normal load. the max temp it reached when i applied load is 63c. Is this still high? the room temp at my place at this time of the year is near 39c.

I am running my machine at 3.00 Ghz. (333Mhz x 9). I would like to OC it to 3.2GHz if it is safe. please help...

On air these temps are pretty good with an ambient like you have. You really cant afford any volts increase as it will up the temps so if your CPU is upto it try it with increasing FSB to get to 3.2 - 400x8 would give best overall CPU/MB/Memory performance. What your current BIOS setting.