[18th Anniversary] Asus Black Pearl - P5k-Premium Testing Report

[sofarfrome]

1.36vcore may not be enough. Depending on your batch you will not remain stable at this vcore.

[wilson]

I have booster disabled aswell as all options in cpu configuration and i have my ram running at 5,5,5,15 with 2.25v.
My batch is Q748A402 and i can pass two memtests at that setting.
Cheers Paul.

[wilson]

Another thing my cpu is 1.36 in bios but shows up as 1.33v - 1.34v in cpu-z and everest when using prime so this could be the problem ??

[sesdave]

Another thing my cpu is 1.36 in bios but shows up as 1.33v - 1.34v in cpu-z and everest when using prime so this could be the problem ??

I have the same vdroop which tends to be about .025 on this MB even with damper enabled. I run with static enabled and transaction booster and clock overcharging to auto.
As per previous post give it more vcore and test with Prime95.You have some headroom yet-lol!

[situman]

Hows this board looking for the new .45nm quads?

[sofarfrome]

Hows this board looking for the new .45nm quads?

Running my E3110 at 4.3GHz rock solid. Need 0504 bios update though.

[holwill]

A small question, did my uual 6 monthly re-install yesterday and at the time i thought it was worth tring out the 404 bios after being on the 402 beta since I brought th board (what a dumbass ) anyways all seems to be as per normal and maybe it even boots a little faster than before, but in all the monitoring software that I have( everest, pc wizard,speedfan) my cpu temp has raised by about 10c, my cores still remain the same as before. I know this is probably pretty trivial but just wanted to see if anyone else noticed anything similar? Also is the only way to revert back to say 402 or 204 by using Asus update? can you not use a early version of afudos as per how we used to do it with the P5WDH? Cheers guys and happy easter .

[sesdave]

A small question, did my uual 6 monthly re-install yesterday and at the time i thought it was worth tring out the 404 bios after being on the 402 beta since I brought th board (what a dumbass ) anyways all seems to be as per normal and maybe it even boots a little faster than before, but in all the monitoring software that I have( everest, pc wizard,speedfan) my cpu temp has raised by about 10c, my cores still remain the same as before. I know this is probably pretty trivial but just wanted to see if anyone else noticed anything similar? Also is the only way to revert back to say 402 or 204 by using Asus update? can you not use a early version of afudos as per how we used to do it with the P5WDH? Cheers guys and happy easter .

Yepp - CPU temp displays higher but core the same so no problem. Its the only niggle - its runs very stable .
If you want to revert use Afudos 2.17 and USB stick .Rememeber to reset BIOS with optimum settings first. Dont know if that will work for 0504 as previous posts have indicated only Asusupdate will regress that which is why I havent tried it. Seems to run fine for a lot of people but have see numerous reports of memory problems. As I havent got an E8400 I dont see any real benefit of going to it.

[holwill]

Cheers mate that is reassuring to know, you have noticed the same.Will just leave it alone I think for the time being, thx for the reply.

[ReverendMaynard]

I have booster disabled aswell as all options in cpu configuration and i have my ram running at 5,5,5,15 with 2.25v.
My batch is Q748A402 and i can pass two memtests at that setting.
Cheers Paul.

You're liquid cooled so compensating for the vdroop might help. I wouldn't take a wolfie much over 1.4v though. Also the GTL settings can be a deal breaker as well, especially when you're pushing high fsb.

[wilson]

Ive read that over 1.4v can damage the cpu and most people are at 1.36v max as above this is out of the cpu`s volt range. I hope that this is intel just trying to stop people using high volts to get stable overclocks but im not gonna chance it yet. What settings should i use for GTL as they are now at 0.63x and 0.67x and my fsb is like 1700

[wilson]

Heres a pic of my system with the swiftech kit installed.

And im happy with the gpu block as i never go above 35 even when on cod4 for hours at a atime.

[turtletrax]

Hey Wilson

What are your ambeint and load temps on that setup?

I usually have at least dual loops, but with my HTPC I am going to go with a CPU/NB/GPU but only have a 2x120 RAD as you do. This worries me as I think it does not have enough jam to run my E8400 at 4Ghz and hold my NB/GPU all at acceptable temps.

Would love some info on what yours is running.

Thanks

[sesdave]

Ive read that over 1.4v can damage the cpu and most people are at 1.36v max as above this is out of the cpu`s volt range. I hope that this is intel just trying to stop people using high volts to get stable overclocks but im not gonna chance it yet. What settings should i use for GTL as they are now at 0.63x and 0.67x and my fsb is like 1700

You may find this of use - http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/...perature-guide
1.4v seems to be the rrecommended line its supposedly dangerous to cross on e8400 but hey 1.5 -1.55 is the one for quads and plenty are running 24/7 high overclocks above that. So the CPU may die sooner but what are talking about here -years,months? In all likelyhood you will upgrade your processor before it dies on you unless you absolutly toast it with insane volts and temps.We are overclocking afterall - as long as I can handle the temps I would give mine plenty more to take it higher but it wont go any higher stable whatever I stuff into it. I have tried numerous times cos 4.0 seemed a nice figure -lol! on air I am idling happily at 35c and prime 60c at 3.6.. I keep seeing post from people on the q6600 o/c thread with a 3.6 o/c complaning about volts being too high below 1.4v and with lower temps - maybe the never tried o/c a B3

[wilson]

Hey Wilson

What are your ambeint and load temps on that setup?

I usually have at least dual loops, but with my HTPC I am going to go with a CPU/NB/GPU but only have a 2x120 RAD as you do. This worries me as I think it does not have enough jam to run my E8400 at 4Ghz and hold my NB/GPU all at acceptable temps.

Would love some info on what yours is running.

Thanks

Yes no worries m8..
At idle they run at 34 with my gpu at about 32 and this is with an ambeint temp of 30-33 . When online with say cod4 i go to about 40 on both cores and 35 on my gpu and when i hit prime i never seem to go above 50 and that was with a 2 hour run.
I may get better results with another loop but im happy with it as it is because 4.0Ghz is good enough for me and my g-card is also overclocked and my fans on the rad are only running at 70%.

[wilson]

Thats some good info m8 cheers.
Also if it lasts me 2 years i will be happy as they will always bring new cpu`s out almost every year that are faster and better.

[jonny_ftm]

You may find this of use - http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/...perature-guide
1.4v seems to be the rrecommended line its supposedly dangerous to cross on e8400 but hey 1.5 -1.55 is the one for quads and plenty are running 24/7 high overclocks above that. So the CPU may die sooner but what are talking about here -years,months? In all likelyhood you will upgrade your processor before it dies on you unless you absolutly toast it with insane volts and temps.We are overclocking afterall - as long as I can handle the temps I would give mine plenty more to take it higher but it wont go any higher stable whatever I stuff into it. I have tried numerous times cos 4.0 seemed a nice figure -lol! on air I am idling happily at 35c and prime 60c at 3.6.. I keep seeing post from people on the q6600 o/c thread with a 3.6 o/c complaning about volts being too high below 1.4v and with lower temps - maybe the never tried o/c a B3

I'm not really agreeing this. There's a whole topic on Wolfdale dying or not under vcore higher than 1.40v. When I say dying, it is real degradation expierienced by many people. Some don't, but many do noted it, even on quadcore 45nm CPUs.

You can't compare a B3 Q6600 or even a G0 to a Wolfdale/Penryn. For the Q6600 series, vcore intel specs are 1.50v +/- 5%. For the 45nm chips, it is 1.40v only. I'd take care putting many volts in those frale 45nm silicone parts

[sesdave]

I'm not really agreeing this. There's a whole topic on Wolfdale dying or not under vcore higher than 1.40v. When I say dying, it is real degradation expierienced by many people. Some don't, but many do noted it, even on quadcore 45nm CPUs.

You can't compare a B3 Q6600 or even a G0 to a Wolfdale/Penryn. For the Q6600 series, vcore intel specs are 1.50v +/- 5%. For the 45nm chips, it is 1.40v only. I'd take care putting many volts in those frale 45nm silicone parts

I wasn't comparing them - the temperature link I gave stated the limits that you are quoting. All overclocking is an accepted risk as you immediately move out of manufactures warranty when running above stock - it just depends on how far you as an individual want to push it irrespective of what the stated boundaries are with an accepted risk of the CPU dying/degrading suddenly.

[turtletrax]

Yes no worries m8..
At idle they run at 34 with my gpu at about 32 and this is with an ambeint temp of 30-33 . When online with say cod4 i go to about 40 on both cores and 35 on my gpu and when i hit prime i never seem to go above 50 and that was with a 2 hour run.
I may get better results with another loop but im happy with it as it is because 4.0Ghz is good enough for me and my g-card is also overclocked and my fans on the rad are only running at 70%.

What is the room ambient average that you get these temps as well.

Thanks for your info too, Saves me some cash

[petercintn]

Being doing some more investigation after response from Fritzman re Acronis Tue Image Home 11 with the P5k and ICH9R. Current version 8053 works fine in Vista and Winxp creating backups and sees Raid so you can create full operating system image(raid0) and incremental backups on the RAid 1/5/10 patyition. Current issue is that their supplied recovery bootcd for when the RAID0 system fails and you want to restore the disk image cant see RAID when it boots on this MB -
Looking at this link http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=189038 it appears that if you buy the product then contact the tech support they give you another boot ISO image to try out. The latest vesion is 8053 this was 8040. When all else fails you build your own bootcd using Bartpe or Vista PE - This forum gives all the links to all the deatils required to build either .http://www.wilderssecurity.com/searc...archid=2142255 So a bit fiddly getting a working bootCD if the one Acronis tech supply doesnt work but you end up with a working backup/restore system that will save a lot of time in the event of a RAID0 crash.

This post kinda worried me. So I put in the Acronis disk in and booted it, and got to the point where I could pick the drive to restore. It saw both my raid 0 drives, it just gave the partitions different drive letters. I was to chicken to start the restore. Hopefully I don't have this problem or am I missing something? Like does the failure of the raid and putting in another drive in and resetting the raid in bios cause this problem?

[sesdave]

This post kinda worried me. So I put in the Acronis disk in and booted it, and got to the point where I could pick the drive to restore. It saw both my raid 0 drives, it just gave the partitions different drive letters. I was to chicken to start the restore. Hopefully I don't have this problem or am I missing something? Like does the failure of the raid and putting in another drive in and resetting the raid in bios cause this problem?

You got further than me then -lol. Did you check to see if you could see and select the image backup on the the drive.? It works fine in Vista/WinXp but there can be issues with the rescue CD on P35/ICH9R setup with RAID. Which version did you try it with - I tried v8053 and when I booted the the rescue CD it couldnt see the raid drives. There are numerous ways round it if you encounter it such as using BARTPE or VISTAPE to build a bootCD. This previous post looks promising and I need to follow it up to see if it solves my problem. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=844

[vcrajeeb]

Hi friends,

I recently assembled a new system. Here is my configuration:

Asus P5K Premium, bios 0504
Q6600 @ 2.4.0Ghz (stock)
2 x 1 GB OCZ2N1066SR2GK @ 1067 Mhz
EVGA 8800GTX 768 MB
FSB Epsilon 600 Watts PSU

In order to set the memory at 1067Mhz, i did the following change in the bios (everything else, remains at default):

FSB Frequency: 266
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1067
DRAM Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

CAS# Latency: 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
RAS# Precharge: 5
RAS# Activate to Precharge:15

DRAM Voltage: 2.20V

C1E Support: Disabled
Maximum CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disabled Bit: Disabled

The system is stable (since i haven't tried OCing anything else). However my CPU is running at 2.4 GHz. My RAM frequency is 534.6 MHz and my FSB:DRAM ratio is 1:2, as obsereved in CPU-Z.

I was wondering if i could increase my CPU to 3 or 3.2 GHz and my FSB:DRAM ratio to 1:1 safely without degrading my memory speed.

Please help me, as I am pretty new to this field.

Thank you,
Rajeeb

[sesdave]

Hi friends,

I recently assembled a new system. Here is my configuration:

Asus P5K Premium, bios 0504
Q6600 @ 2.4.0Ghz (stock)
2 x 1 GB OCZ2N1066SR2GK @ 1067 Mhz
EVGA 8800GTX 768 MB
FSB Epsilon 600 Watts PSU

I was wondering if i could increase my CPU to 3 or 3.2 GHz and my FSBRAM ratio to 1:1 safely without degrading my memory speed.

Please help me, as I am pretty new to this field.

Thank you,
Rajeeb

Shouldnt be a problem . What cooling are u using by the way? Before we start download PCwizard to monitor temps if you arent using anything http://www.cpuid.com/pcwizard.php Its gives a neat display top right screen when you minimise..Try a 4:5 ratio rather than 1:1 for alittle more bandwidth.. You may need to increase vcore slightly if its not stable on stock. Try these settings - if okay and stable we can fine tune memory and maybe reduce some volts in the vcore/NB/FSB later. Should be able to get the sticks running 4.,4,4,12 or better at that speed..

AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Strap=Auto
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1000
DRAM Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
RAS# Precharge:5
RAS# Activate to Precharge:15
TWR: auto
TRFC: auto
TWTR: auto
TRRD: auto
TRTP: auto
DRAM Static Read Control: enabled

Transaction Booster: AUTO
Clock Over-Charging Mode: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.35 - more or less
CPU Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.5
DRAM Voltage: 2.2
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.4
North Bridge Voltage: 1.40
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: AUTO

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
C1E Suppport: disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Disabled

[Kilyin]

Is it just me or does the Soundmax onboard slow down XP boot time significantly? If I disable it in the BIOS I can boot into XP about 3-4 times as fast. I don't know if it's a driver issue or if it's just the onboard sound chipset.

I don't boot into my Vista partition enough to notice, but I don't think it affects it as dramatically.

I guess it's just me...

[wilson]

Does anybody know what is the max fsb you can get on this board ??