@KTE yeah, I'm around THG under the same username. There are still some good people on the Forums, if you can ignore the Intel Trolls. Like Technology Coordinator just depends on the day you catch him, usually he's pretty level headed though, there are a few others too, but there are plenty of Intel trolls there. Not to mention the quality of their reviews at THG has been sliding quickly down the crapper, seeing that with their cpu cooler roundup, and almost every recent Phenom review.
I say k10 athlon is just fine, I think a lot of the sites are doin something wrong, because I get numbers better than theirs 90% of the time once I get the hardware figured out. But AMD will outright tell you, the base athlon architecture was never meant for high clock speeds, it was meant for high ipc, which I think is why they're moving up to a longer pipeline with the next arch after deneb.
I honestly think Intel is gonna start having higher TDP's on their processors with Nehalem. AMD's been keeping fairly competitive out power usage, with a processor that has an IMC/nb on die, which is actually pretty impressive. I don't think Intel is gonna hit the speeds that people think they will though, I also don't think Intel is gonna release a retail processor clocked at higher than 3.6ghz.
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That is the video card, costs a bit more than the regular 3870s, but the package contents value makes up for it. 6' HDMI cable, full version of 3dmark06, PowerDVD7 and PowerDVD Suite, and Valve Black Box, plus the other regular goodies. Hell a 6ft hdmi cable costs about $35 at the Walmart where I work at the very least.
And with the meltdown problems that some are having with the e8400's I'm thinking OCing going any higher than the TDP of the processor is gonna start going the way of the dodo soon. People are frying their penryns because they can't measure the thermal properly, or don't realize even though the die is smaller, they still generate heat. They're generating more heat per square mm in fact than a conroe. And without cooling that can easily handle quick heat dissipation well.... you get the picture.
Now on another thing, I'm curious whats going to set the FX82 apart from the 9850BE. Just wondering if the FX's aren't going to be cherry picked BE's that had the ability to clock the NB/IMC higher at stock voltages. Thats about the only way I think they could get more performance out of them to justify the FX label. And does anyone know if the fx91-92 that are socket 1207+ are gonna be 4x4 compatible? Would be interesting if they could get the performance up on em, to compete with the super high end Skulltrail.
And yeah, in 1.1b3 I was running 2.7ghz by 2ghz, 1.262v (1.248v actual with C&Q disabled) core VID, 1.1v NB/IMC VID, was the same for 2.6ghz core, and was doing 2.4ghz NB/IMC at 1.250v VID. Currently running 2.6ghz core, at 1.250VID under bios P0J, 1.240v actual, 1.04v under C&Q mode, voltages are set to auto. So yeah, Part of the Phenom stability equation I'm really starting to believe has to do with bios maturity.
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