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Thread: GeForce 9800GX2 got reviewed and still buggy

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    Quote Originally Posted by AliG View Post
    I wouldn't say the design is poor, but rather that ati should have done more modifications to the rv670 die before releasing it rather than a straight die shrink, that's one reason why g92 was so successful
    I was talking about Single PCB in 3870X2, not the core.

    But those modifications that you are talking are close. RV770 is set to release in 2/3 months.

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    Ehh, from what I've heard the RV770 will only have 50% more shaders and double the tmus, not quite what I had wanted to hear. That will make a decent difference, but I'd rather hear about fixing the shader clock issue or better yet making a die more optimised for today's games instead of hoping ati the entire gaming industry will change their coding for their r600 design (perhaps if they had launched their card before the r600 and it was more powerful, that might have happened, but not with the way things are going currently)

    In the end, I'll just be waiting to see what will be the better deal a 4870 or a g92 gts for $200 (they're extremely cheap now, no reason not to get one except perhaps the 4870 will be around the same price but offer more performance)
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    Quote Originally Posted by OBR View Post
    I am testing on nF790i and will be compared with ...

    8800GT SLI
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    R 3870X2
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    Also loocking forward to your test...
    Could you also slap that on an old p35 board pls.? Some of us are itching to know if it worcks at its full potential on intel chips ( in a p35 vs. NF790i kind of mudd-fight!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by v_rr View Post
    Old news. Cat 8.3 rule
    And if you say HD 3870X2 its only corruption complaints, the 9800GX2 beats the X2 in that field by a far margin
    What? You know how much corruption the GX2 has? How?

    And why would the GX2 have any more corruption due to multi-gpu than G80 sli or G92 sli? I haven't seen many complaints about NVIDIA sli corruption lately so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

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    These very early benches are meaningless without the proper driver support for multi-gpu... see here-

    Why Tweaktown and Expreview's GX2 reviews are garbage:
    http://www.rage3d.com/board/showpost...56&postcount=1

    They were both tested on the same driver, and are therefore completely bogus reviews.

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    Oh god, did I just read TweakTown that they said the GX2 > X2 in HL2?

    Can they read their own graphs at all?

    nvidia seems to be doing a bunch of bed favours for TweakTown. In fact, it's gotten to a point where I can't even read a review without being thoroughly disgusted by all the bias going on, especially [H] and tweaktown. Just plain disgusting.
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    Whats interesting is that the drivers they are using to test this are not using SLi on the 9800GX2, so its just using one core and keeping up with the X2? *points and laughs*

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    Quote Originally Posted by cegras View Post
    Oh god, did I just read TweakTown that they said the GX2 > X2 in HL2?

    Can they read their own graphs at all?

    nvidia seems to be doing a bunch of bed favours for TweakTown. In fact, it's gotten to a point where I can't even read a review without being thoroughly disgusted by all the bias going on, especially [H] and tweaktown. Just plain disgusting.
    They said in XP.... their review graphs were in Vista, so their review was totally misleading, since the drivers don't work properly in Vista. Re-read it, if anything they are overly critical of NVIDIA when they are testing with a driver that isn't meant to be used with the product...

    Did you even read how harsh the conclusion is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy View Post
    Whats interesting is that the drivers they are using to test this are not using SLi on the 9800GX2, so its just using one core and keeping up with the X2? *points and laughs*

    lol and you really believe that wow

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    Quote Originally Posted by eric66 View Post
    lol and you really believe that wow
    If you wanna act like that, Then do some Research, Go look for Victor's Thread on the 9800GTX/9800GTS, Till he updated to the latest drivers, he had bad scores too.
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    if you want to use GX2 and GPUz you need special build from techpowerup forum ... in that will be GX2 pictured correctly!

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    I shall wait ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy View Post
    If you wanna act like that, Then do some Research, Go look for Victor's Thread on the 9800GTX/9800GTS, Till he updated to the latest drivers, he had bad scores too.
    No need to get wound up Warboy, seems there are a few ATI fanboys ( no need to give names, they perfectly know who they are) here enjoying themselves with posting things without owning the card or reading and not being able to understand the initial reviews, they got prolly nothing else better to do... let them be... they are not worth it... as they will not listen anyway...

    Again I'm not defending the card but let Nvidia release it first and then we will see how the real reviews point out the performance...
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    Quote Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy View Post
    If you wanna act like that, Then do some Research, Go look for Victor's Thread on the 9800GTX/9800GTS, Till he updated to the latest drivers, he had bad scores too.
    Ya comparing underclocked 8800 GTS -> 9800GX2 to a super-overclocked 9800GTX

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    He just is comparing facts v_rr, that the new cards still need some tinkering on the driver side nothing more nothing less... and that it still has issues enabling both GPU's... I'm looking forward to OBR's review as it will compare the cards but some will complain again that he will run the 3870X2 on the 790i...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeghoofd View Post
    He just is comparing facts v_rr, that the new cards still need some tinkering on the driver side nothing more nothing less... and that it still has issues enabling both GPU's... I'm looking forward to OBR's review as it will compare the cards but some will complain again that he will run the 3870X2 on the 790i...
    I´am waiting for every review except Orb review
    I don´t want to see a review from someone that says that: "HD 4000 will suck and ATI will never be better then Nvidia"

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    the 9800 series tab appeared on overclockers.co.uk

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    Quote Originally Posted by v_rr View Post
    I´am waiting for every review except Orb review
    I don´t want to see a review from someone that says that: "HD 4000 will suck and ATI will never be better then Nvidia"
    You are a nauty man !!

    Any price mentioned there origin ?
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    nope - its just the tab right now as the actuall page says "no products"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown View Post
    nope - its just the tab right now as the actuall page says "no products"
    Hopefully noone will start to post the card will be a paper release only Keep us posted if prices pop up plz , thx man
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    Quote Originally Posted by v_rr View Post
    I´am waiting for every review except Orb review
    I don´t want to see a review from someone that says that: "HD 4000 will suck and ATI will never be better then Nvidia"
    that russian review thing was even funnier

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    Quote Originally Posted by v_rr View Post
    I´am waiting for every review except Orb review
    I don´t want to see a review from someone that says that: "HD 4000 will suck and ATI will never be better then Nvidia"
    Sorry Ati fanboy ... but you are right ... HD4000 will suck and ATi will never be better then NVIDIA!

    I dont remember when i told this ... i am sure i never didi it ... but IT IS TRUTH, thanks for this info!

    GX2 + X38 Express

    PS. I am playing with this card third day for review, i made lot of tests in many games ... wit AA AF, without AA AF and NO PROBLEM at all on Intel X38 Express chipset! Card is stable like a hell on Maximus Extreme (i tested primary on this mobo) ... many hours of testing without any crashes ... great stable drivers and fully working SLI ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OBR View Post
    Sorry Ati fanboy ... but you are right ... HD4000 will suck and ATi will never be better then NVIDIA!

    I dont remember when i told this ... i am sure i never didi it ... but IT IS TRUTH, thanks for this info!
    I remember you:

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    it is bull***, ATi cant to compete next Nvidias high-end and this is funeral march full of dreams ...
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...4&postcount=24

    wow what a nice non biased reviewer we have got here.
    If i´am a ATI fanboy only for criticize someone that write garbage like this, you are what?
    You are comenting about products not even launched with unknow performance and write two times things like that

    Do you still think that anyone gone beleave you in your reviews? Trust me, with those statments you are not a reviewer but a fanboy with the cards trying to pass as reviewer.
    A true reviewer never but never write garbage like that.
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    OBR i have to agree with v_rr .... you're reviews are now worthless to those who want an unbias opinion .. sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by OBR View Post
    Sorry Ati fanboy ... but you are right ... HD4000 will suck and ATi will never be better then NVIDIA!

    I dont remember when i told this ... i am sure i never didi it ... but IT IS TRUTH, thanks for this info!
    I'll quote you, maybe this year ATI will suck again, but... do you know what NEVER means? And you're saying that in, let's say, 5 years, NVIDIA can't be in a situation comparable with the one back in the FXs days? You don't have perspective then, so keep writing those reviews, simulations, predictions ( ) and bull of yours, it's the best you can do.
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