The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[ChaosMinionX]

we need more settings than what your screenshots show to see what you can do to get more performance

Hes running 2:3.... switch to 5:6 Rampage with Transaction Booster doesnt work well with 2:3.

[giorgos th.]

i`m working 2:3 with booster - 400fsb and its the fastest combination i`ve tried so far..

3BABY both of the QXs i`m testing (L739-L740) went ~445fsb on air.

[Sources]

DAMN IT !
one of my crucials just POOPED on me last night.

[3BABY]

Had feeling id get asked that, ive tryed everyhting under the sun for more fsb but the real problem is it doesnt like straps of 333 or 400, will only post at 266, at work atm but here is what i remember. with MF bios, RF or MF aside still nothing past 440, yea voltage mite be a lil on the high side on a few things, will run them down when its getting higher fsbs, ram timings and lats all auto till i can get some fsb stability, another thing is it will hang at DET RAM if the following is not like this:

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Disabled

heres the rest

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency : 430-440
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266
PCI-E Frequency: 100-110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- Auto (doesnt like anything else)
DRAM Command Rate : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.3750 (ranged for 3.5-4.1 NA really)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.68ish
North Bridge Voltage : 1.68
DRAM Voltage : 2.46
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.6ish
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : .63
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage :
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage :
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage :
SB 1.5V Voltage :

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

Sorry giorgos th. i dont have the LXXX number on me at the moment, but i havent been able to get this QX posting any higher then 444.

[ZenEffect]

what is your ram rated at voltage wise? those volts are nuts! the maximus over-volts the dram alot. you are probably running 2.55-56 volts right there. TURN THAT DOWN RIGHT NOW! the ram i use is rated 2.35 and i set it at 2.26 in bios which gives me 2.35 exactly *real volts*

[Titus]

is there a freeware program that shows all or most of your memory timings...CPU-Z shows some of them but I want a listing of more...settings in my BIOS are at 'Auto' so I want to see what values 'Auto' assigns

[NBK]

is there a freeware program that shows all or most of your memory timings...CPU-Z shows some of them but I want a listing of more...settings in my BIOS are at 'Auto' so I want to see what values 'Auto' assigns

Hi Titus,

memset will do it!

We either have incompatible RAM or a bad motherboard!!!!!

NBK

[ZenEffect]

Hi Titus,

memset will do it!

We either have incompatible RAM or a bad motherboard!!!!!

NBK

here is the link if you are lazy

http://www.tweakers.fr/download/MemSet35beta.exe

[3BABY]

lol yea, as i said before voltages arent the issue and killing the hardware well..uno.. overvoltage in mind even, running kingston HyperX KHX9600D2K2 2.3-2.35V ranning at 1320+ what ram ddr2 dusnt like a few more volts. have some Ballistx 8500 and some other bits and pieces to play with..

[ZenEffect]

lol yea, as i said before voltages arent the issue and killing the hardware well..uno.. overvoltage in mind even, running kingston HyperX KHX9600D2K2 2.3-2.35V ranning at 1320+ what ram ddr2 dusnt like a few more volts. have some Ballistx 8500 and some other bits and pieces to play with..

you should start your testing then by swapping out your ram to the ballistix and see if that is what is causing the problems. also what bios are you on and which have you tried?

[Mentaly]

Hi

Well I just puped 4 ballistix 1gig sticks 6400 with D9 in my Maximus so now its going in the trash can, just too much hazzle put back my P5K now everything is running smooth , maximus is a nice mobo but just too much work.... Menty

[3BABY]

you should start your testing then by swapping out your ram to the ballistix and see if that is what is causing the problems. also what bios are you on and which have you tried?

yea have tryed the Ballistix but not much luck either, also the ballistix wont reach 1300, and for some reason if the ram cant get to 1300 the bios wont try anything lower (even with Auto) and it will just DETRAM hang, have run MF0907 & 1004, and RF0219, understandabily with the RF bios it gives better ram dividers that lower the ddr speed a lil, but still cant get the high fsb's. really got me stuck this one huh

[Titus]

Hi Titus,

memset will do it!

here is the link if you are lazy

http://www.tweakers.fr/download/MemSet35beta.exe

I get an error message when I try to run it...

[teko]

I just updated to the 0907 bios on asus's page, and now my CPU temp in everest dropped from around 40 degrees to around 20 :o Anyone got any idea why, or is it just the 0907 bios thats flawed?
And, the 1003 bios in this thread is a beta version I guess?

[Grnfinger]

I just updated to the 0907 bios on asus's page, and now my CPU temp in everest dropped from around 40 degrees to around 20 :o Anyone got any idea why, or is it just the 0907 bios thats flawed?
And, the 1003 bios in this thread is a beta version I guess?

Yes 907 temps are way off, 1003 is acurate but I would recommend 1004, much bette bios imo.
Kup however recommends 505 for quad core, better clocks, improved stability.

[teko]

Yes, I saw that recomendation but how is 505 bios with 4*1GB mem?

[Titus]

anyone else experiencing random lock ups during boot?...I'm using BIOS 0907 and every few times it just hangs on the boot screen right after it detects the memory as being OK...I can use the keyboard to hit the delete key and it shows "Entering BIOS" on the boot screen but it never goes past this screen...I have to hit the Reset key a few times for it to boot up properly...is this a problem with this BIOS?

I played around with my memory timings and things have gotten much better...I manually set the timings to 4-4-4-12 (G.Skill rated specs) from their default settings of 5-5-5-15...also manually changed the tRC setting from 'Auto' to 35...I left the DRAM voltage at 'Auto' which according to PC Probe II is set at 1.98V

[Durkadurka]

Do you have to reinstall Vista when going from MF0907 to RF0219 ?

Oh, and another thing. If I keep my OC Profile 1, I can use that if I wanna go back to MF0907 right?

[ChaosMinionX]

yea have tryed the Ballistix but not much luck either, also the ballistix wont reach 1300, and for some reason if the ram cant get to 1300 the bios wont try anything lower (even with Auto) and it will just DETRAM hang, have run MF0907 & 1004, and RF0219, understandabily with the RF bios it gives better ram dividers that lower the ddr speed a lil, but still cant get the high fsb's. really got me stuck this one huh

The Rampage Formula with its adv ram tweaking under the transaction booster does not like 266 divider, use 333/400 and go from there. No matter how much voltage you give it, it will not use 266 from my testing.

[ZenEffect]

so im testing some crucial ballistix pc-8500 right now and im quite disappointed
ill give it a bit more testing but things are not looking up

*edit*

im back to the mushkin memory. these crucial modules are junk, the mushkin hp-2 pc8500 are way better *tighter sub timings too*

i will be returning them tomorrow, as for now...
MORE OVERCLOCKS!!!!

[Durkadurka]

Do you have to reinstall Vista when going from MF0907 to RF0219 ?

Oh, and another thing. If I keep my OC Profile 1, I can use that if I wanna go back to MF0907 right?

Vista didn't need a reinstall, but my OC Profiles was erased when flashing RF0219.

[ZenEffect]

also another thing ive noticed running between straps and playing while playing with new memory is when i set the fsb strap to 400, the l2 cache improved latency by .2ns, i dont know if bandwidth increased because i forgot to note that, but im pretty sure it did as well.

just my 2 cents

*edit*
durkadurka, what timings and volts would you recommend for the ballistix pc-8500 in a 2 1gb module configuration? ive got 2 gigs right in front of me now

[ericab]

zen,

so you dont like the crucial 8500's ?
damn too bad i was planning on grabbing a set of them for my upgrade. oh well..
i may go for those mushkins you got there, seeing as ive used mushkin many times before, and i never had a problem.

can you hook me up with a link to where you bought them ?

[ZenEffect]

I played around with my memory timings and things have gotten much better...I manually set the timings to 4-4-4-12 (G.Skill rated specs) from their default settings of 5-5-5-15...also manually changed the tRC setting from 'Auto' to 35...I left the DRAM voltage at 'Auto' which according to PC Probe II is set at 1.98V

you should really set it to about 1.9 and re-check your volts again to see exactly how much it over volts. not only is this information good to know, but the word "AUTO" scares the shistuffingst out of me when it comes to asus + voltage. once you know how much it over volts, correct your voltage once again in bios with the adjusted value you just figured out to the factory spec. you could probably squeeze more mhz out of your ram by relaxing your timings on ram, going beyond factory spec on voltage to the ram modules, or a combination of both... in my experience i cant do this by having the voltage on auto.

[ericab]

@Sources:

damn that sucks! i cant believe your stick died seeing that your only pulling 912mhz and pushing 2.12 volts! i have the balistix and im pushing 2.26 volts @ 560MHz, mabye i should take a lesson from you ? :/

@Teko:

i had some nb/sb reading problems when i updated to the maximus rampage bios. a simple FULL uninstall and reinstall of everest fixed the problem. (make sure you backup your "Everest.ini" file before you do it if you have any custom settings...)
also, why not try the rampage bios ? everyone's been having amazing results...