Quote Originally Posted by KTE View Post
TDP using above formula if you know the exact current your CPU is pulling (encoded within MSR) or you just trust the manufacturer.

TDP is thermal heat dissipated rather than power draw. Power draw you can very easily measure within a good approximation using a few electrical tools.

The Phenom 9600 and below need 76A. So look at mine, 1.232V @ 76A giving 93.6W TDP.

Top rated bin: 1.25V x 76A = 95W TDP

As for Phenom being hot, not so. I just checked another myth...

Stock cooler is not capable of dissipating heat which it draws away from the IHS, so heat becomes trap within the heatsink and aggregates causing a heatbed to form and so the core heats up more and more.

I tested Phenom 9600 BE at stock without any cooler or fan, 24C ambient.
I have already established mine switches off at 72C BIOS repeatedly.
I then had it loaded at POST (one core 100%).
Kept thermocouple at the top and sides.
After 25 seconds, thermocouple read 55C IHS and 59C at the side nearest die (hottest bit).
I then shut it off and to test if the temperature is more or lower than that read. I quickly took it out into my hand when thermocouple read 53C surface.
Measured at underside pins and it read 48C.
Hmmm, that means with my Phenom running at 1.240v according to everest and everything else that can pick up voltage, that I'm running at 94.24W while I run at 2.6 by 2.4? Going by that since the 2.4nb/IMC is at stock volts. Hehe, kinda liked my stable or no post luck with my Nb/imc on this one.

Yeah I kinda figured that with the stock cooler, thats why I didn't bother with it, and just put it on the old x2 4200+ 65w Windsor. Though it could explain why I've been able to OC at much lower voltages than a lot of people, probably due in part to using the ZT Nirvana for the cpu cooler.