Intel's 45nm Prices & Performance

[TheCarLessDriven]

Oh, im not worried about that. Don't plan on doing any watercooling so I would prob only got for like 3.2Ghz.

[TankGuys]

where did you get it Roger?
im itching SO BAD for a Q9450

My Intel rep told me a few OEM versions of this chip will be slipping out soon, but I don't know when, or who is going to get them.

All these 45nm chips are a pain to get

[Roger_D25]

Certainly seems that way! You must have a bunch of people messaging you all the time asking when, when, when!

[dieqast]

Just wait for the E7200, then it'll get juicy @ 45nm!

[71 (Bryan)]

so whats the xeon version of the q9450 called?
is it available ?
where?

[alfaunits]

The xeons are E5410, E5420... E5460, and they are available just about anywhere on the net.

[Vryada]

No. That's 771. There's a 775 Xeon version of Q9450. Xeon X3350.

[BullGod]

Because the low multis means you will hit the FSB wall on current chipsets before maxing out the CPU. ~470FSB is about the limit, so that would in turn limit a Q9300 to around ~3.5GHz and Q9450 to ~3.75GHz. Theoretically, without FSB limitations, these chips should be capable of 4GHz+ overclocks, given they are on the 45nm process.

Yeah right. Like people on this site are gonna be afraid of that...

[Jamesrt2004]

Yeah right. Like people on this site are gonna be afraid of that...

what did he say people will be afraid of :S??

all he said was that it's not very good for OC'ers cos' of low multi so they reach their limit quick but not too good speeds

[BullGod]

what did he say people will be afraid of :S??

all he said was that it's not very good for OC'ers cos' of low multi so they reach their limit quick but not too good speeds

Well just wait untill they are available and you'll see speeds above 3.7 posted on this site...

[Roger_D25]

Your already correct BullGod, lol!

[jaredpace]

Well just wait untill they are available and you'll see speeds above 3.7 posted on this site...

but you'll see e8400's at 6.0

[adamsleath]

yorkfields need to clock 3.7++ghz 24/7 or it's not worth getting; mayaswell get q6600 for anything less.
just need to wave a magic wand over an intel mobo chipset ot achieve magical 500fsb for yf. :/

[Face]

Q9100 2.33Ghz coming?



http://www.itocp.com/thread-4300-1-1.html

[Donnie27]

Well just wait untill they are available and you'll see speeds above 3.7 posted on this site...

I was going to reply to earlier but got side tracked. He's say that with a low multiplier, you hit the FSB wall earlier. I pegged as some big Intel Fan even after complain that Intel is doing nothing but selling lower base speed processors already overclocked. With less FSB headroom and a lower multiplier it takes more to overclock them since they are essentially already overclocked.

So without sounding and like an equally crazy AMD Fanboy, here's the problem I have with this.

Processor, Group A.
7 X 266.7 = 1.86GHz
7.5 X 266.7 = 2GHz
8 X 266.7 = 2.1GHz

All very cheap and fairly good overclockers that will easily overclock to 333.3 (1333.3 effective) easily. Even Noobs, us and Intel knows this. Many will do 333.3 without a voltage hike!

Processor, Group B.
7 X 333.3 = 2.3GHz
7.5 X 333.3 = 2.5GHz
8 X 333.3 = 2.66GHz

Almost the same processors with some upgrades but is that worth the extra costs. The only real things it has going for it is more optimizations and larger cache(courts are out on how much it helps). I'd much rather buy an older G0 Q/6600 or keep my Current E6600. Even better, wait for Nahelem like AMD fans waited for Phenom

[Epsilon84]

Even better, wait for Nahelem like AMD fans waited for Phenom

I hope you are not insinuating Nehalem will flop like Phenom.

[Kai Robinson]

I'm still waiting on the replacement for the Allendales

Roll on 3mb of Cache!

[Epsilon84]

I'm still waiting on the replacement for the Allendales

Roll on 3mb of Cache!

Yeah, the E7xxx chips look pretty temping, the 3MB cache shouldn't affect performance too much.

[Fujimitsu]

I'm still waiting on the replacement for the Allendales

Roll on 3mb of Cache!

I'm still putting the squeeze on my e6300! These things truly are beastly... ran it 100% OC on air for about 9 months, been the same on water for a few more now. Sadly the chiller didn't open it up much... but still stellar chips.

[Donnie27]

I hope you are not insinuating Nehalem will flop like Phenom.

No, Not at all. I'm saying just the opposite and that Nahalem will be well worth waiting on. IMHO, it will Rawk!

IMHO, wayyyyy too many folks are cheering on IMC when the Core improvements will be the best thing going for it. I don't think FSB is the big draw back some folks say it is. I say that mainly for Single Socket Desktop systems, not multi socket servers where CSI/QP is really needed.

This time new motherboards will be welcomed as well.

[emoners]

guys i was just wondering...the Q9450 & the X3350 seems to have the same specs...what would be the advantage of getting a quad over a xeon or vice versa?

TIA

[trans am]

take whatever you can get. its the same shi#

[Kai Robinson]

I was hoping for more info on the E5xxx as i think my E4300 is about to top out at 3.2Ghz...either that or i need a new motherboard!

[emoners]

anybody got a retail of the Q9450 already?

[RunawayPrisoner]

There is now a thread about X3350 (Q9450 equivalence) right here. And with some... initial OC results as well. You don't need crazy voltages... but apparently, you'll need... something else.