Official DFI LanParty UT X38-T2R(and LT) Discussion/Review/Overclock/Guide Thread

[flexy]

I almost bought x38,thank you for telling me this...I thought that there wont be ddr2 version

probably meant "DDR3"

Anyway i got X38 since i dont care until nehalem end of this year/beginning of next year. That time X38/DDR2 should do well. Besides i was not impressed by any DDR3 benchmarks, so the price/performance for DDR3 ratio is not too attractive.

G.

[flexy]

when i had my board running with different divider, settings...no problem with the bios. We know the board is finicky w/ dividers anyway...so with the 300/800 i am running now i have this "stuck bios" problem once in a while...didnt have it running 266/667 AFAIK. Just always need to check whether its actually BOOTING with the settings and not at stock

[mArCo1928]

hi all, i've this motherboard and one problem. my ram can't start orthos stable at 1066MHz, the max frequency i reached was 960MHz at 400MHz of bus... orthos stable for hour, but with other multiplier after a few second the test failed...

i tryed the configuration for bios by i4memory don't work

i've update bios at 1/11 version...

[Jor3lBR]

hi all, i've this motherboard and one problem. my ram can't start orthos stable at 1066MHz, the max frequency i reached was 960MHz at 400MHz of bus... orthos stable for hour, but with other multiplier after a few second the test failed...

i tryed the configuration for bios by i4memory don't work

i've update bios at 1/11 version...

Marco,

Update your signature with your complete system specs and post a BIOS template so we can help you!

[mArCo1928]

CPU Feature Page
Thermal Management Control................DISABLED
PPM (EIST) Mode...........................DISABLED
Limit CPUID MaxVal........................DISABLED
CIE Function..............................DISABLED
Execute Disable Bit.......................DISABLED
Virtualization Technology.................DISABLED
Core Multi-Processing.....................ENABLED

Main BIOS Page
Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2
Shutdown After AC Loss....................Default (DISABLED?)
O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0
CLOCK VC0 Divider.........................Auto
CPU Clock Ratio...........................9x
CPU Clock.................................333 or 400 MHz
Boot Up Clock.............................Auto
DRAM Speed................................266/800 or 333/800 or 400/800 or 400/1066
PCIE Clock................................100 MHz
PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X

CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled

Voltage Setting Page 
CPU VID Control...........................1.3875V
CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto
DRAM Voltage Control......................2.27V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.510V
NB Core Voltage...........................from Default to 1.55V
CPU VTT Voltage...........................fro Default to 1.382V
VCore Droop Control.......................Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V
GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong
Host Slew Rate............................Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control...................Disabled
CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt.......................N/A
CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt......................N/A
North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................N/A

DRAM Timing Page
Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast, Normal, Auto
Enhance Addressing........................Fast, Normal, Auto
T2 Dispatch...............................Enabled, Auto
Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below
CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................5
RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................5
Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................15
All Precharge to Act......................4
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................30
Performance Level.........................6
Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below
MCH ODT Latency...........................AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................13
Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................11
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............4
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................5
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............4
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................3
ALL PRE to Refresh........................4

Read Delay Phase Adjust Page
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto

Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Auto

Clock Setting Fine Delay Page
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive or Auto or Nominal
DIMM 1 Clock fine delay...................Current 89ps
DIMM 2 Clock fine delay...................Current 456ps
DIMM 1 Control fine delay.................Current 534ps
DIMM 2 Control fine delay.................Current 289ps
Ch 1 Command fine delay...................Current 801ps

Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive or Auto or Nominal
DIMM 3 Clock fine delay...................Current 89ps
DIMM 4 Clock fine delay...................Current 400ps
DIMM 3 Control fine delay.................Current 367ps
DIMM 4 Control fine delay.................Current 356ps
Ch 2 Command fine delay...................Current 801ps

Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................More Aggressive or Auto or Nominal

Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................Auto

Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................Auto

[Jor3lBR]

@MARCO

First I would run Memtest #5, #7 and #8 at least 3 times each to check if Ram is passing then I would try 5-5-5-5-15 and changing 'Performance Level' to 7 or 8 and give Orthos another try.

[Forsaken1]

On the subject from flashing bios from x38 to x48.Im not sure what this means.
Updated X48 MRC timing table values but,on my bonetrail x38 motherboard the last bios released had that in the notes.

[mArCo1928]

@MARCO

First I would run Memtest #5, #7 and #8 at least 3 times each to check if Ram is passing then I would try 5-5-5-5-15 and changing 'Performance Level' to 7 or 8 and give Orthos another try.

how can i boot up system with usb key? can you help me? i put the memtest.exe in usb key and boot from usb?

[Jor3lBR]

On the subject from flashing bios from x38 to x48.Im not sure what this means.
Updated X48 MRC timing table values but,on my bonetrail x38 motherboard the last bios released had that in the notes.

I think it wont work because 1st they said X48 = IHC10 and X38 = IHC9 and then there is the DDR3 for X48.


But if nothing of this is true and DFI decided to release 2 separate versions of the X48 (one DDR3 and one to substitute the X38 but using the same DDR2 and IHC9) it would probably work but I don't see the point in doing that.

[Jor3lBR]

how can i boot up system with usb key? can you help me? i put the memtest.exe in usb key and boot from usb?

I would use the *.iso instead can you burn the iso?

http://www.memtest86.com/

[jimmyz]

Trust me guys it is not a misprint, there is a DDR2 X-48 in the pipe. Motherboardpro will have a limited few in stock on the 19th, (they expect them on the 18th) This is not a typo... DDR2 and X-48 DFI listened to what the customer wanted and acted.

now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

[zsamz_]

hi all, i've this motherboard and one problem. my ram can't start orthos stable at 1066MHz, the max frequency i reached was 960MHz at 400MHz of bus... orthos stable for hour, but with other multiplier after a few second the test failed...

i tryed the configuration for bios by i4memory don't work

i've update bios at 1/11 version...

marco if your ballistix has d9gkx chips you better off cas 4
all my ballistix with d9gmh can do 1200+ with 2.1v
my mushkins cant do 960 5-5-5-15 with 2.3v but i can do 4-5-4-12 1050mhz with 2.22v 2.27v set in bios
i can do 1100mhz 4-4-4-12 with 2.3v but cant do 5-5-5-15

use 333/667 or 333/800

jor3lbr i got spare bios chips so i can try that x48 bios lol

[Jor3lBR]

Hi Sam,

I got confused, you CAS4 the Mush's or the Ballistix? You go 4-4-4-4-15 at what Performance Level is that?

marco if your ballistix has d9gkx chips you better off cas 4
all my ballistix with d9gmh can do 1200+ with 2.1v
my mushkins cant do 960 5-5-5-15 with 2.3v but i can do 4-5-4-12 1050mhz with 2.22v 2.27v set in bios
i can do 1100mhz 4-4-4-12 with 2.3v but cant do 5-5-5-15

use 333/667 or 333/800

jor3lbr i got spare bios chips so i can try that x48 bios lol

[zsamz_]

Hi Sam,

I got confused, you CAS4 the Mush's or the Ballistix? You go 4-4-4-4-15 at what Performance Level is that?

perf level 7 n splits to 6
it dont matter the brand only thing that matters is what chips its got

d9hmh=cas5
d9gkx=cas4

[t_ski]

how can i boot up system with usb key? can you help me? i put the memtest.exe in usb key and boot from usb?

Check this out:

http://icrontic.com/articles/bootable_usb/page1

perf level 7 n splits to 6
it dont matter the brand only thing that matters is what chips its got

d9hmh=cas5
d9gkx=cas4

What about D9GMH? IIRC my G.Skill has those...

when i had my board running with different divider, settings...no problem with the bios. We know the board is finicky w/ dividers anyway...so with the 300/800 i am running now i have this "stuck bios" problem once in a while...didnt have it running 266/667 AFAIK. Just always need to check whether its actually BOOTING with the settings and not at stock

So flexy, are you stable now at 3.6GHz? Would you be able to post your BIOS settigns for me? I'm still having trouble getting there myself...


Oh, BTW - all this talk about the X48. Wasn't the X48 supposed to be a binned X38 chip? Trying to think where I saw that at

[Jor3lBR]

So flexy, are you stable now at 3.6GHz? Would you be able to post your BIOS settigns for me? I'm still having trouble getting there myself...


Oh, BTW - all this talk about the X48. Wasn't the X48 supposed to be a binned X38 chip? Trying to think where I saw that at

ski, whats your q6600 VID? This is so important!

And whats happening with your PC on the moment you get the error? I've noticed some patterns here and there.

I just made some changes in my system, got a RevAA1 board and when taking the RevAA0 out of the case and uninstalling hs's I noticed couple of things: SB and NB hate MX-2 thermal paste, they need AS5. Always be carefully with those mounts (especially NB), they never fit properly (heat in some poor contact area can make your OC bsod or reboot).

I also got a new q6600 and I started to play with it 4 hrs ago. My last one (L739A466) had a 1.2825v VID.

It was nice to hit 4050Mhz but it was too hot and needed 1.5v to get that.

I got a new Q6600 Batch #L745A793 that has a 1.21v VID and the first thing I noticed is the low volts the mobo posted for stock speeds, only 1.20vcore against 1.31v from last cpu.

I just started now and already got it 400*9 and I'm finding way easier to find the sweep spot then the high Vid version:

[Jor3lBR]

perf level 7 n splits to 6
it dont matter the brand only thing that matters is what chips its got

d9hmh=cas5
d9gkx=cas4

Sam,

I have Ballistix Tracer 8500 (double sided chips believed to be 'cool' old version) and they don't like 4-4-4-4 with low NB and VTT volts.

[eva2000]

wow Q6600 needing only 1.28v for 3.6Ghz nice

[Jor3lBR]

wow Q6600 needing only 1.28v for 3.6Ghz nice

Thanks Eva, comming from you is quite a compliment!
I wanna try to lower that soon :-)

Just realised it's all about VID on those Q6600. Lower VIDs better and low heat clockers.

My board booted up on stock settings and gave it only 1.20 for stock and I was wow this is something! The old q6600 I had needed 1.31v on cpu vcore set on auto.

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For someone else that's going to ask VID value's are displayed on CoreTemp and you can also look at other topics regarding VID and batch numbers before buying a Q6600:

[eva2000]

that's 0.10-0.17v less vcore at 3.6ghz than the average Q6600 G0 i have seen! But what's your ambient room/case temps and water temps ?

[Jor3lBR]

that's 0.10-0.17v less vcore at 3.6ghz than the average Q6600 G0 i have seen! But what's your ambient room/case temps and water temps ?

Nothing special in my room and case temps I think:
Room: 75oF
Case: 83-86oF
Water temp I can't answer because I don't have a reader there (but it's not chilled or anything to cool it down, is a normal Asetek kit with only the cpu loop).

[Villainstone]

Well I got on the band wagon guys but it is not the LT or the UT... I am rocking the in the Dark. This BIOS is something else I can tell you that much for sure. Coming from an Abit BIOS to this I didn't even know where to start lol. But now after looking and seeing some of your guys's settings I was like ok, and went back to the BIOS. I wrote everything down that I seen in here with the LT and UT. I honestly didn't even look to see what MB was what when I wrote down the settings.

You see I really couldn't find and reliable info using google that could help me at all. I already knew about this thread, so I knew it wasn't for my exact MB. I searched through pages, and pages looking for screen shots, and BIOS pictures. You guys have a slightly different BIOS so I had to wing a few thing and change some options not exactly knowing what it did. I'm not sure about the LT/UT BIOS but if I want to up my Vcore I need to use the CPUVID option and set it to +175.0mV to reach a Vcore of 1.45. Looking around here it seems that the LT/UT BIOS has a Vcore option but I am not to sure.
Anyway after looking around and tinkering I am running at 475fsb, and ATM I am just going for max FSB and then I will tweak the rest later. I use a 1:1 ratio for this and 2.2 Vdimm so that I do not have to worry about my RAM stopping the FSB from climbing. I uploaded a screenie for you all to see, but I am going back to the BIOS for right now .

[systemviper]

Trust me guys it is not a misprint, there is a DDR2 X-48 in the pipe. Motherboardpro will have a limited few in stock on the 19th, (they expect them on the 18th) This is not a typo... DDR2 and X-48 DFI listened to what the customer wanted and acted.

now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

just watch out, i just put my hard earned down on that one and then decided too look around and find more info on it... DFI LanParty LT X48-T2R but low and behold, motherboardpro.com is the only place that has it or any info one it.
Plus i googles all over and evey link led to info that refrenced the mbpro sale. i am concerned that there is no ddr2 x48...

[Forsaken1]

Talked with shawn at DFI .He reports there is a x48 DDR2 from DFI .

Product Marketing Specifications
LP LT X48-T2R
2008/1/31
Chipset INTEL® X48+ICH9R
CPU �� Socket-775 for Intel Core TM2 Quad, Core TM 2 Duo, Core TM2 Extreme
�� Socket-775 for Intel Pentium® D
�� 8 Phase digital PWM
FSB �� 800/1066/1333/1600 MHz
Memory �� 128-bit Dual-channel memory architecture
�� 4 240-pin DDRII DIMM sockets max 8GB
�� Supports unbuffered, single/double-side DDRII 533/667/800 DIMMs
�� Supports x8/x16, non-ECC and up to 1Gb DDRII devices
Expansion Slots �� 2 PCI Express (Gen 2) x16
�� 1 PCI Express x4 Graphic Slot with Crossfire and Physical
�� 1 PCI Express x1
�� 3 PCI Slots
Storage �� 1 Floppy port
�� 1 parallel IDE ports with up to 133Mbps UltraDMA
�� 6 serial SATAII ports with up to 3Gbs
�� Support INTEL SATAII with RAID 0/1/0+1/5
�� JMB 363 supports 2 SATAII ports and 1 IDE port with RAID 0/1
USB �� 12 USB2.0 ports
Audio �� Realtek ALC885 for 8CH HD audio in Bernstein card
LAN �� 2 GbE LAN by Marvell 88E8052+8053 with teaming
IEEE 1394 �� VT6307 with 2 IEEE1394 ports
Legacy I/O �� IT8718F-S
�� Hardware Monitoring:
CPU/System temperature sensing w/ overheating alarm CPU
overheating protection during system boot-up
12v/5v/3.3v/Vcore/Vdimm/Vnb/Vbat/5Vsb voltages sensing
Current drive CPU temperature sensing
3 Fan speed sensing and 1 Linear fan speed control for CPU fan
Back panel I/O �� 1 x PS2 mouse, 1 x PS2 keyboard
�� 2 USB2.0 ports, 1 x IEEE 1394
�� 2 USB2.0 ports, 1 x RJ45
�� 2 USB2.0 ports
Other Onboard
Connectors
�� 3 USB header for 6 USB2.0 ports
�� 1 2x5-pin header for IEEE 1394 port
�� 1 2x6 connector for Bernstein audio module
�� 1 5x2-pin for IRDA header

Product Marketing Specifications
LP LT X48-T2R
2008/1/31
�� 1 4-pin FAN connectors for CPU, 2 3-pin FAN for Chipset, 3 3-pin FAN for system
�� 1 x COM
�� Piezo-buzzer
�� 24-pin ATX and 8-pin ATX power connectors
�� Standby LED, S3 LED
�� EZ-On and EZ-Touch switches for onboard power on and reset
�� 10x2-pin front panel headers (IDE LED, Power LED, Power switch, Reset button,
PC speaker)
�� Software Debug LED
PCB Size �� ATX, 305x245 mm, 6 Layers, PCB in Black
BIOS Features �� 8 Mb flash ROM
�� CMOS Reloaded
�� ACPI; PnP; Hotkey flash; Wake on Ring/LAN/USB/Keyboard and Mouse
Manageability �� DMI 2.0, WOL by PME; WOR by PME; PXE2 Boot
Excellent Over-clocking
Capability
�� Voltage tuning：Vdimm ; Vnb ; Vcore,Vsb,VHT
�� 1MHz frequency subtle tuning：Fsb
�� Adjustable CPU Multiplier
EMI Regulations �� FCC, CE, Class B
BERNSTEIN Audio
Module
�� Realtek ALC885 for 8CH HD audio CODEC
�� 6 audio jacks; CD-In connector; front audio connector, optical S/PDIF connector,
coaxial RCA S/PDIF-in/out jacks
Features �� Dual GbE LAN with teaming
Teaming allows dual LAN to work together to provide up to twice the Ethernet
bandwidth for transferring large amounts of data from home file servers to other
PCs. It also provides network redundancy through fail-over capability.
Special Feature �� Digital PWM provides stable voltage to the CPU and avoids damage to capacitors
�� EZ-CLEAR
Bypass the manual process by simply pressing the rest and power buttons at the
same time. The CMOS will restore the clock settings back to their default values.
Accessories �� User’s Manual
�� BERNSTEIN Audio Module
�� 1 Parallel IDE flat cable, 1 FDD flat cable
�� 2 SATA cables with 2 power cables
�� Driver CD
�� 1 Floppy diskette for SATA RAID ICH9R and JMicron 363 driver
�� I/O shield

[Jor3lBR]

Talked with shawn at DFI san jose.He reports there is a x48 DDR2 from DFI .

Thats probably the reason Mobopro's said a month or two ago that DFI LP x38 is dead, not coming for stock anymore. They know more about DFI then DFI employee's

But will the x48 ddr2 be a disguised x38? Wait and see...