THanks for the reply, I thought the thread was dead

And yes, you def seem right because no mater what sticks I have used before, at over 400fsb nothing will work at anything more then 1:1.

The good news is that I seem to be running stable at 460 1:1 with 4-4-4 THats 30 gain on my old OC, and much tighter timings.

Now that ram is not stopping me I guess I can push it further...just need to do the Vdroop mod, for which I cant seem to find a diagram