**Official ABIT IP-35 Pro Review/Overclock/Guide Thread**

[chawks2]

I have no problem with 8. My e8400 is up to 4Ghz. Prolly could go higher, just dont have the time.

[WrigleyVillain]

does the ip-35 pro like 4 gigs overclocked??? im at 3.2 so far with a e6750 & 2 gigs ram 2x1 gig sticks. i want to add 2 gigs more also board is on stock bios so far because that bios flashing thing is tricky looking to me ...

Adding another 2GB was no different for me raising the MCH might be necessary I believe...

[leo5111]

are we talking about stock bios?

[WrigleyVillain]

Uh mine came with 14 and it was fine with 4GB. Now running b16_04 (iirc)

[Crazy Chuckster]

I have no problem with 8. My e8400 is up to 4Ghz. Prolly could go higher, just dont have the time.

chawks, could you post your memory timings and all voltages to get your OC @ 4ghz

[nvteleskier]

Thanks for all the answers to my questions about switching out a 680i for a IP-35 Pro without formatting my hard drive. No problems at all.
I'm currently running at 3744mhz and memory is at 4-4-4-15 2T, but I have a few issues with running 4 X 1GB sticks of memory. I'm currently running in slots 1 & 3, the memory will not run in 2 & 4 at all. Installing the memory in any of the slots, it feels very loose and the sticks do not snap in like other boards I have used in the past. Has anyone else experienced this problem?
The vdroop seems excessive, I've been running for a week with not a single crash or BSOD. Fast! ORTHOS will not run regardless of the vcore. Two cores will run for a few hours, but two cores will crash within a minute. I'm watercooled and the temps max out at 50C on the two cores that run. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I could run 4 X 1 GB at 4-4-4-12 2T on the 680i and ~3800mhz, but always had some kind of issue with the motherboard starting, even at stock 2400.

Great thread, I'm impressed by the amount of knowledge gained by sharing so much information.

Thanks again!

[mezryn]

Would I be correct to believe if Core Temp (latest version) is reporting high temps ranging to TJ Max then it's correct, and not a beta bios issue as it supposedly reads directly the DTS? Just double checking before I reseat the heatsink....

[chawks2]

chawks, could you post your memory timings and all voltages to get your OC @ 4ghz

vcore 1.465

[rentay]

Hi all!

Just completed the heatsink mod as per Ace-A-Rue outline!









If anyone is interested, I have started a worklog in the computer cases section of the forum! It can be found here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=177866

Regards

[Cpl Ledanek]

what should I do to optimal my system, not necessarily overclock it.

advance thanks

ok, after tinkering with uGuru, it became official to me that I do not know what I'm doing

[sniggle]

Hey guys, I'm having a bit of a problem with a new machine I built using this board. I got the IP35 Pro along with a Q6600 (non g0, not sure what the stepping is), a Zalman 9500A CPU cooler, 2x2GB GSkill PC6400.

My problem is that I cannot seem to get the CPU temperature low enough to be stable. According to the bios it idles at around 60C with the Zalman. I tried reseating it and got the same results. I also tried the stock Intel cooler multiple times with slightly higher results (around 63C). I'm using AS5 and each time I take the heatsinks off it looks like there is good contact.

Normally I would not simply believe the bios temperature monitoring but every time I try to install Windows XP Pro it fails at random points with blue screens and file errors. I tried multiple hard drives and DVD drives with the same result so I eliminated those as culprits. I've also tried the latest bios (16 B09) which does not help. I've also booted with a diagnostic CD which has PC-Check on it and it fails the stress test. I've used memtest as well and the ram tests without error, so I'm pretty sure that's not it.

Another thing I should mention is that the CPU cooler doesn't even really get warm. The motherboard heatsinks get plenty warm and those show normal temperatures in the bios. This makes me think that there is poor contact between the actual cores and IHS on the CPU since I seem to be getting fine contact to the IHS.

Any ideas before I RMA the CPU? Is it even possible that it's the board's fault?

Thanks in advance.

[mezryn]

Sniggle,

I'm beginning to suspect there's a heatsink contact issue with some. Here's my story for last night:

--
...I don't believe the ZeroTherm Nirvana NV120 is compatible with the ABIT IP35 Pro. I spent five hours last night reseating it about a dozen times, cleaning thermal paste each time. It is an absolute nightmare. I began reseating it because my load temps would reach TJMax. OK, so I reseated it and it was obvious it hadn't been properly seated. Fine. Reseated it, issue persisted. After finally tightening the bracket connecting the mounting screws to the cooler, it had sufficient contact for a 45 idle - 75 load. I removed because when OCing to 4GHz it'd overheat and shut down and tried reseating it - when I removed it, I noticed that it STILL didn't appear to have proper contact.

To make a long, very painful story short, if you mount the heatsink with the fan facing the front or rear of the case, then the side bars on the mounting bracket will come into contact with the two capacitors above the CPU socket, and I think that's where proper contact is being prevented. If you face the fan down towards the video card, then the fan hits the northbridge heatsink. If you face the face up towards top of the case, well, that's how I last tested it and it's getting crap temperatures (60-90)

With a cooler like this with an E8400, since it's comparable to a TRUE 120 I'd expect then temps between 30-50 at stock, at MOST.
--

...so for heat/cooling issues, I wonder if the two capacitors above the CPU socket are hitting other heatsink screw mount brackets and preventing proper contact. If you remove your heatsink, does the thermal paste appear to have spread properly?

[sniggle]

Sniggle,

I'm beginning to suspect there's a heatsink contact issue with some. Here's my story for last night:

--
...I don't believe the ZeroTherm Nirvana NV120 is compatible with the ABIT IP35 Pro. I spent five hours last night reseating it about a dozen times, cleaning thermal paste each time. It is an absolute nightmare. I began reseating it because my load temps would reach TJMax. OK, so I reseated it and it was obvious it hadn't been properly seated. Fine. Reseated it, issue persisted. After finally tightening the bracket connecting the mounting screws to the cooler, it had sufficient contact for a 45 idle - 75 load. I removed because when OCing to 4GHz it'd overheat and shut down and tried reseating it - when I removed it, I noticed that it STILL didn't appear to have proper contact.

To make a long, very painful story short, if you mount the heatsink with the fan facing the front or rear of the case, then the side bars on the mounting bracket will come into contact with the two capacitors above the CPU socket, and I think that's where proper contact is being prevented. If you face the fan down towards the video card, then the fan hits the northbridge heatsink. If you face the face up towards top of the case, well, that's how I last tested it and it's getting crap temperatures (60-90)

With a cooler like this with an E8400, since it's comparable to a TRUE 120 I'd expect then temps between 30-50 at stock, at MOST.
--

...so for heat/cooling issues, I wonder if the two capacitors above the CPU socket are hitting other heatsink screw mount brackets and preventing proper contact. If you remove your heatsink, does the thermal paste appear to have spread properly?

Each time I remove either heatsink (the Zalman or the Intel) there seems to be fine contact. Additionally it seems as if the Intel heatsink should work regardless since all boards need to accommodate it. I've been applying the AS5 in the recommended fashion as posted on their site (a line across both cores).

Is it even possible that I would have gotten a CPU with poor contact between the IHS and cores, or is Intel's QC too stringent for that to be true?

[Ace-a-Rue]

Would I be correct to believe if Core Temp (latest version) is reporting high temps ranging to TJ Max then it's correct, and not a beta bios issue as it supposedly reads directly the DTS? Just double checking before I reseat the heatsink....

what does Uguru report your cpu temp at?

coretemp is a software code that interpolates what the DTS is putting out...SO...you have to look at that angle too.

normally, i haven't seen more than a 13-15C difference between Uguru and coretemp, that is why i asked about Uguru CPU temp.

[Ace-a-Rue]

Hey guys, I'm having a bit of a problem with a new machine I built using this board. I got the IP35 Pro along with a Q6600 (non g0, not sure what the stepping is), a Zalman 9500A CPU cooler, 2x2GB GSkill PC6400.

My problem is that I cannot seem to get the CPU temperature low enough to be stable. According to the bios it idles at around 60C with the Zalman. I tried reseating it and got the same results. I also tried the stock Intel cooler multiple times with slightly higher results (around 63C). I'm using AS5 and each time I take the heatsinks off it looks like there is good contact.

Normally I would not simply believe the bios temperature monitoring but every time I try to install Windows XP Pro it fails at random points with blue screens and file errors. I tried multiple hard drives and DVD drives with the same result so I eliminated those as culprits. I've also tried the latest bios (16 B09) which does not help. I've also booted with a diagnostic CD which has PC-Check on it and it fails the stress test. I've used memtest as well and the ram tests without error, so I'm pretty sure that's not it.

Another thing I should mention is that the CPU cooler doesn't even really get warm. The motherboard heatsinks get plenty warm and those show normal temperatures in the bios. This makes me think that there is poor contact between the actual cores and IHS on the CPU since I seem to be getting fine contact to the IHS.

Any ideas before I RMA the CPU? Is it even possible that it's the board's fault?

Thanks in advance.

where did you get this non 'G0' cpu?

are you trying to run setup at stock speed and this problem is happening?

[sniggle]

where did you get this non 'G0' cpu?

are you trying to run setup at stock speed and this problem is happening?

Hmm, maybe it is a G0? I was under the impression that the characters 'G0' were in the stepping, which mine does not have. My stepping is SLACR.

I just removed the stock heatsink for the third time and there is perfect contact. As with before, the chip was idling at 62C as reported by the bios and the beatsink was barely getting warm.

This is all at stock speed and voltage. I can't even seem to undervolt it with this board.

[AstroCreep]

What would be a good 4GB kit to run with this board with tight timings?
I'd like to try and get DDR2-850 speeds @ CAS 4.
Is there anything out that might work for me?

Thanks!

[Volkswagen]

what settings would be good for 8 x 400 for the voltages besides the cpu? Ill start at 1.4v for cpu vcore and work my way down........

[Ace-a-Rue]

Hmm, maybe it is a G0? I was under the impression that the characters 'G0' were in the stepping, which mine does not have. My stepping is SLACR.

I just removed the stock heatsink for the third time and there is perfect contact. As with before, the chip was idling at 62C as reported by the bios and the beatsink was barely getting warm.

This is all at stock speed and voltage. I can't even seem to undervolt it with this board.

here is your 'G0' SLACR: http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...px?sSpec=SLACR

what bios do you have installed?

my recommendation is to clear CMOS with battery out; unplug your PSU; push the start button to unload the caps and then put everything back together in 5 to 10 minutes....power up and enter the bios to set optimized defaults...save and now go into windows to see the temps...if you are running stock speed at default values, speed-step and C1E will kick in to reduce your vcore, multi and temp....let us know how that works out for you.

[Ace-a-Rue]

What would be a good 4GB kit to run with this board with tight timings?
I'd like to try and get DDR2-850 speeds @ CAS 4.
Is there anything out that might work for me?

Thanks!

i just pulled this up at newegg for cas4 memory...the patriot stuff likes it has good ratings from previous buyers: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...me=4GB(4+x+1GB)

[sniggle]

here is your 'G0' SLACR: http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...px?sSpec=SLACR

what bios do you have installed?

my recommendation is to clear CMOS with battery out; unplug your PSU; push the start button to unload the caps and then put everything back together in 5 to 10 minutes....power up and enter the bios to set optimized defaults...save and now go into windows to see the temps...if you are running stock speed at default values, speed-step and C1E will kick in to reduce your vcore, multi and temp....let us know how that works out for you.

Bios is 16 B09. I will try this, but I can't check anything in Windows because I can't even install it. It fails at random points, probably due to overheating.

[AstroCreep]

i just pulled this up at newegg for cas4 memory...the patriot stuff likes it has good ratings from previous buyers: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...me=4GB(4+x+1GB)

I'm sorry, I meant 2x2GB. I'd just as quickly grab another set of the memory I have (2x1GB Kingston Hyper-X), but I don't want to hurt my OC at all (as meager as it may be).

[sniggle]

Reset the CMOS, loaded optimized defaults, and bios still reports 63C idle. I think I'm going to chalk this up as a bad CPU and RMA it with newegg...

[Ace-a-Rue]

I'm sorry, I meant 2x2GB. I'd just as quickly grab another set of the memory I have (2x1GB Kingston Hyper-X), but I don't want to hurt my OC at all (as meager as it may be).

take a look at these 2 x 2gb kits: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2508081&name=4

[Crazy Chuckster]

Update! Im now at 3816 screens below






Voltages are still low, I ran orthos overnight and memtest 8 hours stable. Im pretty happy with this setup!