9600GT SLI beats 3870X2 in a couple games (inq, expreview)

[Sr7]

And I was saying 3850CF vs 9600GT SLI is a better comparison.

Well, for the most part, Crossfire is Crossfire, and profiles are profiles.

[grimREEFER]

you could compare 3870 crossfire to 9600gt sli and get the same results basically. although the 3870 crossfire is only like $10 more than a 9600gt sli, so seeing it getting outperformed isnt so appalling.

[AbelJemka]

Well, for the most part, Crossfire is Crossfire, and profiles are profiles.

You use ATI High end to compare but u can also use Nvidia High end
This test is not about X2 versus 9600GT Sli so why u isolate this result from the test...

Moreover if +8% with 2 games is a large margin +45% versus 8800GTS 512 is what?

[Sr7]

You use ATI High end to compare but u can also use Nvidia High end
This test is not about X2 versus 9600GT Sli so why u isolate this result from the test...

Moreover if +8% with 2 games is a large margin +45% versus 8800GTS 512 is what?

What are you talking about +8%? Look at the games. The 3dmark score is obviously going to be a different story, but fortunately you don't play 3dmark so I don't know why that matters.

The 8% is also a poor number for the review site to have calculated, because it's completely misleading...even though the 9600GT's loss was very low there in 3dmark for each test, they ran way more tests with 3dmark, giving it an unproportional weight in the *overall* score they give (8%). This drags down the overall average from the high numbers shown in the actual games.

You could arbitrarily run 2 COD4 tests, or 20 COD4 tests... it will drastically change the overall..

I guess you didn't notice this.

[AbelJemka]

Just notice score are misleading. 2 Games benchmarks, 2 games without timedemos.
Only one review with 9600 GT SLI and 3870 X2 in it that i know is Firingsquad's review. COD 4 shows different picture in it :


So why trust Expreview over Firingsquad

http://firingsquad.com/hardware/gefo...nce/page11.asp

[Sr7]

Ya I guess, it just depends on what site you look at, and how they benchmark.

Even so, to me it's impressive if the 9600GT SLI even ties in any case, seeing as it's meant to be a mid-range card (relative to the rest of the line-up). They've beaten the price of the 3870 down with a stick.

[largon]

Anyone know a review that has HD3870X2 scoring anywhere near 15k in 3DMark06? The ones I could find are 11-12k due to "slow" DC CPUs like E6600.

[Eastcoasthandle]

Anyone know a review that has HD3870X2 scoring anywhere near 15k in 3DMark06? The ones I could find are 11-12k due to "slow" DC CPUs like E6600.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5272142
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5272142
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5141334
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5222145

[ATI-RaWpOwEr]

Anyone know a review that has HD3870X2 scoring anywhere near 15k in 3DMark06? The ones I could find are 11-12k due to "slow" DC CPUs like E6600.

http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video...-take-2/page-3


this should do

[AbelJemka]

Anyone know a review that has HD3870X2 scoring anywhere near 15k in 3DMark06? The ones I could find are 11-12k due to "slow" DC CPUs like E6600.

http://www.clubic.com/article-92330-...680-rv670.html

[AbelJemka]

Ya I guess, it just depends on what site you look at, and how they benchmark.

Even so, to me it's impressive if the 9600GT SLI even ties in any case, seeing as it's meant to be a mid-range card (relative to the rest of the line-up). They've beaten the price of the 3870 down with a stick.

3870 and 9600GT cost the same in Europe and 3870 CF is better than 9600GT SLI. 3850 CF cost even less and OC like a beast

[Sr7]

3870 and 9600GT cost the same in Europe and 3870 CF is better than 9600GT SLI. 3850 CF cost even less and OC like a beast

Well they're only $10 apart here in the US, but the 9600GT isn't very far behind the 3870 in most cases, in some cases it's ahead. I think it balances out to just about equal.

[OBR]

YES it happend, here is my test! 9600 GT SLI ...

http://pctuning.tyden.cz/index.php?o...1&limitstart=2

[Kunaak]

the 3870X2 is 2 190 dollar videocards smashed together into 1 card.

9600GT is 2 190 dollar videocard cards running together.

is there really any surprise here?

[Sr7]

the 3870X2 is 2 190 dollar videocards smashed together into 1 card.

9600GT is 2 190 dollar videocard cards running together.

is there really any surprise here?

Yes... everyone knew it would be close but it's just interesting to see that it can actually beat the x2 in some cases.

[AbelJemka]

It beats the X2 like it beat all the Nvidia High End (GTX and Ultra)
So rename the thread to "9600GT beats all the High End"

[ATI-RaWpOwEr]

http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video...-take-2/page-3

best score i've seen with a 3870 x2 so far

[mak1skav]

I can't really understand why it is always Nvidia vs ATI. In my opinion the real truth is something like Intel vs Nvidia. Most buyers prefer to buy motherboards with Intel chipset so they are probably going to use ATI video cards in crossfire if they want to have the biggest graphic performance with their system. Personally i can understand that Nvidia builds more powerful video cards but i don't like to have Nvidia chipset in my motherboard and i prefer ATI's video quality.

P.S. I have used both Nvidia and ATI in the past with my systems.

[AbelJemka]

http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video...-take-2/page-3

best score i've seen with a 3870 x2 so far

4Ghz Penryn.

[ATI-RaWpOwEr]

4Ghz Penryn.

actually if you see the sreenshot of the 3dmark06 when tha bench was made it was only 3.2

[AbelJemka]

You'd better look closer

[zakelwe]

One advantage with 9600 SLI over x2 is that if the x2 breaks you have no PC, if one 9600 breaks then you can still use your PC. But for performance it's very equal, hence why this thread is so long. Both options seem pretty good.

One thing it does show up is that previous nvidia 8500/8600 and 2600 for AMD were not that good as a midrange part. It's no wonder the 8800 GTS 320M and 8800GT were so popular.

Regards
Andy

[AbelJemka]

Go 3870 CF that simple! and u can add one extra card or more!!!
Just a pity Nvidia reserved Tri SLI for the elite

[trans am]

lets see 2 9600gt stock cooled get past 20k in 2006 on a cd2 (dual core) then I'll be impressed

[OBR]

in my country are TWO 9600GTs cheaper then 3870X2 ...