**Official ASUS Striker II Formula Discussion/Review/Overclock/Guide/BIOS Thread**

[WeStSiDePLaYa]

Scores a lil bit low. But that could be Vista.

Knock your FSB back to an even 1800(450).

Once you pass 1800fsb, the mem controller goes to hell, and latency shoots up by about 30%.

So far there isn't a way to get around it.

Bench 450x9, and I bet your system will feel more responsive, and bench better than 452x9.

Also, see if you can set your TWTR to 8. This greatly improves mem copy performance. Going from auto to 8 gained me 600mb/s in copy speed. Also try to get TRC and TRFC to 26 and 32. Changing those three timings alone gained me 900mb/s copy at ddr1200 5-4-3-18.

Went from 8000mb/s to 8900mb/s. While read and write speed remained fairly the same.



EDIT:

Here is my best at 450x9.

My GT's were clocked at 700/1000

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5230043

[polar bear]

Thanx for posting your settings, WeStSiDePLaYa.

I cannot run my E6600 higher than 3756 (417*9). Seems to be limited by heat output as Vcore=1.58250 is required to go higher. This again leads to temp>82 degress and throttling. Probably this chip has reached its limit - it has served well though for 1.5 years and perhaps degraded some even which could explain the massive voltage required to hit 3800.

Thinking to make the switch to 45nm, but so far unsure what chip would best complement the 780i chipset. Initially thinking to get the QX9650 as I thought an unlocked multiplier would fare well as FSB can be kept lower - as we know this chipset is severely limited by FSB wall.

Still - tried the Q6600 and couldnt go higher than 3200. Not sure if this would be the same with the Penryn quads though (quad limitation in general in combination with 780i?).

The alternative is E8400 which is due to arrive in about 1 week in my country. Any suggestions?

Also - anyone else running 3-sli here? Seems that there is some scaling issue currently in 3DMark06 as only additional 400 is gained going from 2 to 3-SLI.

[nuclearjock]

Also, see if you can set your TWTR to 8. This greatly improves mem copy performance. Going from auto to 8 gained me 600mb/s in copy speed. Also try to get TRC and TRFC to 26 and 32. Changing those three timings alone gained me 900mb/s copy at ddr1200 5-4-3-18.

Went from 8000mb/s to 8900mb/s. While read and write speed remained fairly the same.



EDIT:

Here is my best at 450x9.

My GT's were clocked at 700/1000

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5230043

Dude!!

I have OCZ FLEX XLC 1150 I was running @5-5-5-12 2T all subs [AUTO].

Dialed in your subs recommended above and -> 5-4-3-18.

Dude, you rock...

Passed memtest no probs, bandwidth (Sisoft) ~8700 -> ~9000

But system seems alot "snappier". I never had the patience to mess with the sub timings before. Tried these and they WORKED.

You da man...

[asp6000]

Scores a lil bit low. But that could be Vista.

Knock your FSB back to an even 1800(450).

Once you pass 1800fsb, the mem controller goes to hell, and latency shoots up by about 30%.

So far there isn't a way to get around it.

Bench 450x9, and I bet your system will feel more responsive, and bench better than 452x9.

Also, see if you can set your TWTR to 8. This greatly improves mem copy performance. Going from auto to 8 gained me 600mb/s in copy speed. Also try to get TRC and TRFC to 26 and 32. Changing those three timings alone gained me 900mb/s copy at ddr1200 5-4-3-18.

Went from 8000mb/s to 8900mb/s. While read and write speed remained fairly the same.



EDIT:

Here is my best at 450x9.

My GT's were clocked at 700/1000

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5230043

anything between 1730 and 1803-ish and either i get no post or windows kernal start-up error.

[WeStSiDePLaYa]

anything between 1730 and 1803-ish and either i get no post or windows kernal start-up error.

Really?

I think it might be mem related then.

Since over 1800, the mem controlled really relaxes itself, and then that is why the big performance drop.

Maybe the mem controller can't handle 4gb well.

Have you tried just one 2gb stick? or 2x1gb sticks at 1800?

[bingo13]

Really?

I think it might be mem related then.

Since over 1800, the mem controlled really relaxes itself, and then that is why the big performance drop.

Maybe the mem controller can't handle 4gb well.

Have you tried just one 2gb stick? or 2x1gb sticks at 1800?

Memory controller handles 8GB just fine - 8GB Results - key is to run in sync mode, keep voltages under control, and do not go above 450FSB as stated.

[polar bear]

Really?

I think it might be mem related then.

Since over 1800, the mem controlled really relaxes itself, and then that is why the big performance drop.

Maybe the mem controller can't handle 4gb well.

Have you tried just one 2gb stick? or 2x1gb sticks at 1800?

In my experience, the mem controller handles 4GB exceptionally poorly. I finally gave it up just to have more OC headroom. With 4GB I couldnt get much higher than 3.0 (1333QDR) with Q6600. As soon as I removed 2GB this issue resolved as well as frequent random BSODS etc. IMO 4GB is just not worth it with this board.

[nuclearjock]

I have a perplexing situation with this board.

I can do pretty much anythng I want unlinked up to 450 fsb, and 4.2 ghz, prime and orthos stable for > 1 hour.

However when I run 3DMark03 or flight simulator, I get random reboots, freezes, etc.

The only way I can get around this is to set fsb to stock (333) and use my multi's to get 3.8, 4.0, 4.2 etc. Bandwidth sucks @333 though.

Any Ideas??

[polar bear]

Phew! Just back to 3-SLI after one of my dogs (XFX 8800GTX ) got damaged as I spilled a little H2O on it last time I tried to set up 3x GPUs in a WC circuit.

I just got a replacement card today after I had to RMA the broken one. Was real nervous as I set about to mod the system - and there I go breaking off two capacitators from one of my precioussss dogs in the process.....

Luckily the system booted with all three GPUs and I have just been able to enable 3-SLI. Trying to WC one GPU can be hard enough, but 3... dont even get me started... let's just say it's a messy process!

Just thinking... should I run the latest beta forceware driver (171.16) or 169.25? Any experiences anyone?

[polar bear]

Rather quiet around the striker ii thread lately. Everyone busy gaming or have you guys given up on this board already?

I'm not ready to give up yet as I do quite like the board despite it's weaknesses - the biggest one IMO being the massive heat output of that pesky 780i chipset. Can't stand looking at that NB temp around 77-80 idle... surely it can't be good for stability. And thats with a modest 400FSB and 3x fans directly cooling the NB/mosfets - it's simply unbelievable how hot this chipset gets.

Also, 3-SLI can output some serious heat too, and as cool *looking* as the Zalman Reserator is, it's doing a rather poor job of trying to keep my dogs (xfx 8800gtx) cool. Hence, I am on the verge of doing a serious mod to my existing WC setup(s) - first the striker will get redone then the maximus will get a serious overhaul (EK and DangerDen have both released waterblocks for the 3870X2... )

So, I have found some waterblocks custom-built for the striker ii at mips - both NB, SB / PCI-E 2.0 chip as well as mosfets.

In my Tt Armor case I can fit one 3x120mm rad inside and I am also planning to attach another 3x120mm rad to the exterior.

I already have one swiftech pump (sig). It's certified for 1200LPH and 3.5 bar. Now, I am not at all sure if this pump will be sufficient if i decide to go for one loop i.e. CPU, chipset, GPUx3. Any thoughts on this? Will I require a separate pump and loop? Or maybe a total of 3 loops (i.e. one 3x120mm rad for each loop)? I dont care about noise anymore, I just want the most extreme cooling for all components. Space is a limiting factor though, as I dont think I will be able to fit more than 1 pump inside the case, and I have mixed feelings about keeping another pump at the desk outside the case.

Also, if i decide to go for multiple loops, I'm inclined to run the CPU as a separate loop, thus combining chipset+GPUs. It makes sense to me to do it this way to maximize the OC headroom for the CPU.

Looks like with the new setup I can safely retire the Reserator - or wait! Maybe instead of putting it away I might let it cool one of the mosfets just to keep it employed sort of... considering it's good looks after all. It will be much harder to retire the Reserator XT however as I've been very happy with this unit so far, but hey! That's what you get for hanging around these forums

Note: I decided to open a new thread on this topic in the liquid cooling section: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=178534

[zakelwe]

I have a perplexing situation with this board.

I can do pretty much anythng I want unlinked up to 450 fsb, and 4.2 ghz, prime and orthos stable for > 1 hour.

However when I run 3DMark03 or flight simulator, I get random reboots, freezes, etc.

The only way I can get around this is to set fsb to stock (333) and use my multi's to get 3.8, 4.0, 4.2 etc. Bandwidth sucks @333 though.

Any Ideas??

I've just been having exactly the same problem, everytime I go into 3dmark2001 nature it locks or the screen corrupts. The other DX7games actually pass fine, but this DX8 game fails. WOuld do 450FSB for all the other tests but had to role it off to 400FSB to get it to pass.

This is the first time I have ever had the FSB effect 2001 nature like this, normally it is only the video card memory or gpu speed/temp. If anything high FSb would blow up lobby game.

To fix it I have defaulted the BIOS and simply upped the memory voltage and the cpu voltage, no more. Can you try the same on your machine and see what happens?

This is a tricky board to zero in and it is all down to the 780i chipset and what it likes ( very little ) and what it does not like (an awful lot). The actual board is great though.

Regards

Andy

Regards

Andy

[nuclearjock]

I've just been having exactly the same problem, everytime I go into 3dmark2001 nature it locks or the screen corrupts. The other DX7games actually pass fine, but this DX8 game fails. WOuld do 450FSB for all the other tests but had to role it off to 400FSB to get it to pass.

This is the first time I have ever had the FSB effect 2001 nature like this, normally it is only the video card memory or gpu speed/temp. If anything high FSb would blow up lobby game.

To fix it I have defaulted the BIOS and simply upped the memory voltage and the cpu voltage, no more. Can you try the same on your machine and see what happens?

This is a tricky board to zero in and it is all down to the 780i chipset and what it likes ( very little ) and what it does not like (an awful lot). The actual board is great though.

Regards

Andy

Regards

Andy

Let me get this straight.

You want me to set up an OC, and then auto all the voltages except Vcore and Vdimm??

If that's the request, I've already tried that to no avail.

If that's not the request, please be more specific..

Nuke

[TheHardCase]

anything between 1730 and 1803-ish and either i get no post or windows kernal start-up error.

I have the same problem 100%
Not sure what to do...
Maybe a problem with the memory control?

[Wiinter]

Here's all I get in Everest Ultimate (attached).

No MCP temp. That's all right, I think the temps are probably fine. I guess my only option would be to increase the multiplier at this point - but I don't think the Q6600 goes beyond 9x.

Those CPU temps are already OC to 3.2 - and still only 35c!

[polar bear]

Here's all I get in Everest Ultimate (attached).

No MCP temp. That's all right, I think the temps are probably fine. I guess my only option would be to increase the multiplier at this point - but I don't think the Q6600 goes beyond 9x.

Those CPU temps are already OC to 3.2 - and still only 35c!

There's an Everest update on their website - it will include settings for the striker ii - among others.

[Ced-G60]

There's an Everest update on their website - it will include settings for the striker ii - among others.

I have the latest Everest version and it does have MCP reading, but it doesn't sound right to me... running 98°c... BIOS SB report 75°c max (which is way hot ! even with fan on top of it...)

Ordering my Striker 2 extreme when i get back from holidays next week

[Vladmax]

I have the latest Everest version and it does have MCP reading, but it doesn't sound right to me... running 98°c... BIOS SB report 75°c max (which is way hot ! even with fan on top of it...)

Ordering my Striker 2 extreme when i get back from holidays next week

If you SB in BIOS is 75 then NB will be around 85 and then it could easily reach 95 when you're in OS. Check that you have NB Overheat enabled and set to 90C in BIOS. Then if your PC shuts down while in OS you'll know that your NB temp is more then 90.