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    ek supreme and bitpower 3/8 5/8 1/8 wall fittings.

    KK these fittings don't fit the d-tek fuzion.I was wondering if they would fit they ek supreme with no troubles.Spacing looks wide enough in pic's but i would like to be sure before i order the block.

    Can anyone post a pic and measurement between the two barbs

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    Here's a pic comparing a D-Tek and EK Supreme with 3/8" EK barbs installed.....




    Appears to my completely imprecise measurements that there is, measured from inside barb edge to inside barb edge (closest edges to one another at the top opening), 7/16" between the openings on the D-Tek and 3/4" on the EK.


    Here's where I measured....sorry for the crudeness of it....

    Last edited by C'DaleRider; 02-21-2008 at 07:19 PM.

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    cheers mate!!!

    looks like my bitpower 1/8 wall will fit on the ek supreme

    they don't fit on a fuzion



    pictures by bp-vincent @ bitpower
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    I figured this out tonight as well.. Oh well, I guess I'll have to learn to live without them on the Fuzion, already bought it.

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    i would if rather ed keeping my fuzion but seeing how my bro has 1 on order i will just give him my fuzion for his supreme no biggie for me.

    If i had no other choice i would just used different fittings on the block i think
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    Quote Originally Posted by disruptfam View Post
    i would if rather ed keeping my fuzion but seeing how my bro has 1 on order i will just give him my fuzion for his supreme no biggie for me.

    If i had no other choice i would just used different fittings on the block i think

    just a quick note disrupt. Nikhsub tested the ek with a rd-30 @ 18V.

    I also noticed where it would out pace the fusion @ 18V and scales wonderfully to 21V.

    Now there isnt a single pump out there that can match an RD-30 @ 18V, so your going to need to dual up on them to get our results.

    And i have 2 EK supreme's. And my next setup will use dual DDC-3.2's just for that loop. So just giving you a heads up if you plan on going with this block.

    Also the accelerators need to be cleaned. They come very messy at the factory.

    Heres what i mean..



    So i would take that thing apart and clean it up with some 1000 grit sand paper.
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    cpu will be on it's own loop worked out to be 1.27gmp.. will it still perform well with that flow rate?

    I already have 3 pumps in my rig i don't think i want 4 although i could fit 4 i'de rather not lol

    cheers

    can you link me to this testing please
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    Quote Originally Posted by disruptfam View Post
    cpu will be on it's own loop worked out to be 1.27gmp.. will it still perform well with that flow rate?

    I already have 3 pumps in my rig i don't think i want 4 although i could fit 4 i'de rather not lol

    cheers

    can you link me to this testing please
    cant tell for sure how well it would work out.

    But yeah, im guessing at least head output on dual 3.2's is going to be needed for you to outpace the fusion.



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    damn so i would need atleast 2 pumps to outdo the fuzion

    How far perf wise would i be with 1 pump? i thought it was around 1-2c behind the fuzion (1 pump)
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    Quote Originally Posted by disruptfam View Post
    damn so i would need atleast 2 pumps to outdo the fuzion

    How far perf wise would i be with 1 pump? i thought it was around 1-2c behind the fuzion (1 pump)
    that i couldnt tell ya.

    martin has my second one on him right now b4 i even opened the box. But according to his flow test, it placed it right on mark with a 4.5mm fusion nozzle. LOL...

    and you know how dayam restrictive that sucker is.

    Scott's tests were done on a RD-30. I am also using it on an RD-30.

    But yeah, id need be, id have that second pump on standbye at least.
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    If 1 pumps still performs decent i will have to stick with that.1-2c imo is ok

    I'll talk to martin....

    2 pumps is out of the question atm.But i will see
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    Quote Originally Posted by disruptfam View Post
    If 1 pumps still performs decent i will have to stick with that.1-2c imo is ok

    I'll talk to martin....

    2 pumps is out of the question atm.But i will see
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    can you link me to niks testing?

    I understand dual pumps will get me better results but thats a option for me atm.

    two pumps will get me 1.78gpm
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    Quote Originally Posted by disruptfam View Post
    can you link me to niks testing?

    I understand dual pumps will get me better results but thats a option for me atm.

    two pumps will get me 1.78gpm
    You know this pumping power issue that is appearing is all the more reason I want to eventually setup of a c/w testing die/bench or at least a CPU test bench and start plotting flow rate results.

    Makes me wonder if c/w curves for highly restrictive and nozzled type blocks is much steeper beyond 1 GPM than many of the published results for things like the stock fuzion or apogee GTX.

    1-2C for a jump in flow rate because of dual pumps is really important to understand. I've always been telling people if they have at least 1 GPM that it doesn't really matter what your flow rate is. But that's not looking like the case here....

    Perhaps a new thermal curve trend occuring on these extremely restrictive setups..

    Maybe the Fuzion with nozzle has a similar steeper curve as well...might have to revise the rule of thumb on flow rate...

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    yeah i was working off the 1gpm rule aswell..now i don't know
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    All this pumping power talk reminds me of the good ol' Storm / DDC2 days.

    DDC2 FTW. Forget reliability - go performance.

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    Hey Naekuh,

    Talk to me like I'm a two year old. I'm just an immigrant and my English is probably whacked... And I'm psycho and I ran out of Prozac.

    You are saying that, using one RD30 at 18V, the EK Supreme cpu block outpaces a D-Tek FuZion with quad nozzle ?

    Am I hearing this correctly? My ears are shot as well.. so you have to pardon me....

    And pardon my Tony Soprano imitations.. but I don't got no problems with flow... just double up on the sucker... or if you are a sick puppy, quad them up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by disruptfam View Post
    cheers mate!!!

    looks like my bitpower 1/8 wall will fit on the ek supreme

    they don't fit on a fuzion



    pictures by bp-vincent @ bitpower
    AHHH!!!! Now you tell me, after I went through the trouble of finding these bad boys in China. . grrrr.

    So wait now, they fit the EK, but are you all saying that the EK won't preform the same as the Fuzion with only 1 DDC3,2??

    If that's the case, looks like I'll be using barbs on the FuZion then and the BP's on the rad and mcw 60.
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    Just to throw a wrench in the mix, I used a sample tubing of R-3400 3/8" ID 5/8" OD on the 3/8" D-Tek barbs (I took both ends on both barbs of my block). I let it sit for some time while I'm messing with others things and when I wanted to remove it to put it aside, I had a hell of a time trying to remove them off the barbs. It's at least twice as hard as my old Excelon tubing so I bet it wouldn't leak at all...

    Just try to find a way to have a very nice clamp or just risk without any clamping just on the Fuzion block. For the rest, use BitsPower fittings.

    At least, it's a good thing I learned about this and I wanted to keep my Fuzion so I would order 2 less for my loop.

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    anyone with a supreme cpu loop ddc 3.2 w/top

    post temps on a quad?
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    I think we've pretty much answered the question on whether the 3/8" BP fittings will work with the EK Supreme, but thought you might be interested to see a pic of the Supreme with the 1/2" ID/ 3/4" OD compression fittings:








    They actually fit okay. Looks a little funky because one hangs over the side of the top a bit, but at least they fit.

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    well, that's nice to see that they fit the EK.

    I do have some bad news though, they DO NOT fit the MCW-60 at all. I'm too tired now, but I'll post pics of that either in my project thread or here, so that you can see what I mean. . . .
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    man i don't think there not going to fit my 680i nb block and my nf4 rev 1.1 block
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    Quote Originally Posted by disruptfam View Post
    cpu will be on it's own loop worked out to be 1.27gmp.. will it still perform well with that flow rate?

    I already have 3 pumps in my rig i don't think i want 4 although i could fit 4 i'de rather not lol
    Disrupt, if u go quad loop that will be like CRAZY... hehehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shazza View Post
    I think we've pretty much answered the question on whether the 3/8" BP fittings will work with the EK Supreme, but thought you might be interested to see a pic of the Supreme with the 1/2" ID/ 3/4" OD compression fittings:








    They actually fit okay. Looks a little funky because one hangs over the side of the top a bit, but at least they fit.
    Cool, Im a bit surpriced to see that it is such a tight fit though. Those barbs must be quite big, hu?

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