Water cooling the Asus Maximus SE X38

[Talonman]

The SB is bare chip and allot of surface area I might add, which is handy for AS Adhesiveing a heat sinks to it!

The NB has that metal plate we attach our waterblocks to. It's called the IHS. Pete is saying that the IHS is made out of the same material as a CPU, "Nickle plated copper". So just like a CPU, it could be lapped.

The guys are just poping the metal cover on and off of their NB chip.

Anybody have a photo handy of the NB Chip just hanging out in the wind?

[Pete]

I dont follow you here. You all mean that the "chip" it self came out of its socket and then was re-inserted to its socket??

The NB has a metal cover just as does the CPU, a few of 3 in total have been lucky in the fact out IHS on the NB came off so we are left with this (photo below) and it also still works!



Photo has not been tweaked in any way as manny have said

[neo_rtr]

I see what you mean, Well good news.. i did manage to remove mine . it took me a while but i manage,,,

see my work log for details

MIPs in action,,

By neo_rtr, shot with DiMAGE X1 at 2008-02-20


By neo_rtr, shot with DiMAGE X1 at 2008-02-20


By neo_rtr, shot with DiMAGE X1 at 2008-02-20


By neo_rtr, shot with DiMAGE X1 at 2008-02-20


By neo_rtr at 2008-02-20

[Aldy402]

well im redoing my loop this weekend, exchanging the stock block with a mcw30 and using tygon r3400, jus a quick question for you guys.

I have never drained a loop with the block stuck on the motherboard before. What's the best way of dismantling the loop with the stock fusion block? I was thinking to try to drain my loop as much as possible via reservior and then carefully removing the tubes from the block while the mobo is upside down??

that seems to be the most logical procedure..

[Talonman]

Thanks for the picture Pete.

Sweet looking blocks neo!!

Aldy402, if your planning on using the MCW30 on your NB, make sure you understand we have had 2 reports of members thinking it was a tad small, while others installed it fine....

Just thought you should know.

[neo_rtr]

This is the 1st test with the MIPS on the QX6700 3.6Ghz NB Vcore 1.70

By neo_rtr at 2008-02-21
It landed at 33c for both SB NB and 44c for CPU
I did stopped it to take the picture reson the timer says 15secs only
Ambient 24c

[tommithy]

Your CPU is not gonna be 44c if your cores are near 60c. I think that reading is about 15c off.

Nice blocks!!

[neo_rtr]

This is my test with the MIPS on the QX6700 3.6Ghz NB Vcore 1.70
I run it for 45mins, then stopped it and re run it for about 20mins

NB 28c


By neo_rtr at 2008-02-21ambient 19

[Talonman]

Now that I have been seen how much your ambient can effect all your temps accrost the board, I think the ambient column needs to be added to the OP. Sorry guys with small screens... I hope it dosen't make it too hard on the eyes?

So boy's, how do you think we should proceed?
Do we want a few entries by members at different ambient's, or 1 entry each, and let them pick their favorite? ...
I think I lean toward 2 or 3 each, but would go with the flow...


Members reported loaded NB temp's in the 'Aftermarket Block Club':
ABC Member ---- NB volts -- NB Loaded ------------------- CPU -------------- Ambient ---- NB Block
neo rtr ------------ 1.70v ------ 33°C ----------------- Q6700 @ 3.6GHz ---------- 33°C ---- Sixdesign sold by MIPS
neo rtr ------------ 1.70v ------ 28°C ----------------- Q6700 @ 3.6GHz ---------- 19°C ---- Sixdesign sold by MIPS
Talonman --------- 1.60v ------ 22°C ---4HR Prime95 --- Q6600 GO @ 3.8GHz ------ 12.7°C -- EK S-MAX Acetal (Then I can officiall make this entry with a clean spirit!)
Screen shot: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...162085&page=35

Is your info correct as listed neo?

[WFO]

Now that I have been seen how much your ambient can effect all your temps accrost the board, I think the ambient column needs to be added to the OP. Sorry guys with small screens... I hope it dosen't make it too hard on the eyes?

So boy's, how do you think we should proceed?
Do we want a few entries by members at different ambient's, or 1 entry each, and let them pick their favorite? ...
I think I lean toward 2 or 3 each, but would go with the flow...


Members reported loaded NB temp's in the 'Aftermarket Block Club':
ABC Member ---- NB volts -- NB Loaded ------------------- CPU -------------- Ambient ---- NB Block
neo rtr ------------ 1.70v ------ 33°C ----------------- Q6700 @ 3.6GHz ---------- 33°C ---- Sixdesign sold by MIPS
neo rtr ------------ 1.70v ------ 28°C ----------------- Q6700 @ 3.6GHz ---------- 19°C ---- Sixdesign sold by MIPS
Talonman --------- 1.60v ------ 22°C ---4HR Prime95 --- Q6600 GO @ 3.8GHz ------ 12.7°C -- EK S-MAX Acetal (Then I can officiall make this entry with a clean spirit!)
Screen shot: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...162085&page=35

Is your info correct as listed neo?

I'd say if possible, let people post a minimum of 2 ambient/ load temps, mine seems to be about 59F minimum and whatever max people may experience. I won't be able to post a max till summer and I see 95-100F. After being stable for 7 days at previously posted settings and temps, I went from a Windows SMP to VMware Workstation with 2 instances of Linux 64 and the corresponding folding smps. I've had to up voltages considerably and NB is currently hitting 35C. I suspect I'll have to go to 1.70v NB to get stable again. At least 2 ambient temps should be allowed. I have no objections to using the scroll bar if others want more ambient options.

[Talonman]

Thanks for the input WFO...

I also plan on doing another run, when my basement heats up!

[neo_rtr]

Now that I have been seen how much your ambient can effect all your temps accrost the board, I think the ambient column needs to be added to the OP. Sorry guys with small screens... I hope it dosen't make it too hard on the eyes?

So boy's, how do you think we should proceed?
Do we want a few entries by members at different ambient's, or 1 entry each, and let them pick their favorite? ...
I think I lean toward 2 or 3 each, but would go with the flow...


Members reported loaded NB temp's in the 'Aftermarket Block Club':
ABC Member ---- NB volts -- NB Loaded ------------------- CPU -------------- Ambient ---- NB Block
neo rtr ------------ 1.70v ------ 33°C ----------------- Q6700 @ 3.6GHz ---------- 33°C ---- Sixdesign sold by MIPS
neo rtr ------------ 1.70v ------ 28°C ----------------- Q6700 @ 3.6GHz ---------- 19°C ---- Sixdesign sold by MIPS
Talonman --------- 1.60v ------ 22°C ---4HR Prime95 --- Q6600 GO @ 3.8GHz ------ 12.7°C -- EK S-MAX Acetal (Then I can officiall make this entry with a clean spirit!)
Screen shot: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...162085&page=35

Is your info correct as listed neo?

It should read Ambient 24c

Members reported loaded NB temp's in the 'Aftermarket Block Club':
ABC Member ---- NB volts -- NB Loaded ------------------- CPU -------------- Ambient ---- NB Block
neo rtr ------------ 1.70v ------ 33°C ----------------- QX6700 @ 3.6GHz --------- 24°C ---- Sixdesign sold by MIPS
neo rtr ------------ 1.70v ------ 28°C ----------------- QX6700 @ 3.6GHz --------- 19°C ---- Sixdesign sold by MIPS

[Talonman]

Corrected! Thanks.

I think your the first member to post his temps running 5 blocks in 1 loop.

I was wondering how much it would change your temps on the NB and CPU.

Looks to me like you won't be having too much of a problem running cool...

I also took more of the info from your build thread for my OP!!
Thanks again for all the help you have given us on ordering these blocks...
I hope you don't mind neo buddy.
My read is your a team player, and don't care!

[neo_rtr]

Corrected! Thanks.

I think your the first member to post his temps running 5 blocks in 1 loop.

I was wondering how much it would change your temps on the NB and CPU.

Looks to me like you won't be having too much of a problem running cool...

I also took more of the info from your build thread for my OP!!
Thanks again for all the help you have given us on ordering these blocks...
I hope you don't mind neo buddy.
My read is your a team player, and don't care!

No problem. More that welcome!!
True 5 blocks in 1 loop !!! hehe ! way togo thanks for pointing it out

[Talonman]

I believe if I were a Borg, the correct statement would have been: Your data has been assimilated, to service us.

Heck, if you look at yours and my entry, when our ambient temp was closer togeather, I can tell we are getting very similar performance.
Only thing is, I'm running 2 blocks in 1 loop, -vs- your 5.
I believe you should be pleased with your temps...
The MIPS blocks look to be solid performers to me.

Members reported loaded NB temp's in the 'Aftermarket Block Club':
ABC Member ---- NB volts -- NB Loaded ------------------- CPU -------------- Ambient ---- NB Block
Talonman --------- 1.60v ------ 22°C -- 4HR Prime95 --- Q6600 GO @ 3.8GHz ---- 12.7°C ---- EK S-MAX Acetal
Creek Tha Gray --- 1.61v ------ 24°C -- OCCT at 30min ---- Q6700 @ 4.2GHz ---------------- EK S-MAX (Vapor Phase Change user)
Nikhsub1 ---------- 1.52v ------ 25°C ---------------------- Q6600 @ 3.7GHz --------------- MCW30
Talonman -------- 1.55v ------ 26°C -- 1HR Prime95 -- Q6600 GO @ 3.8GHz --- 16.6°C --- EK S-MAX Acetal
neo rtr ----------- 1.70v ------ 28°C ------------------- Q6700 @ 3.6GHz ------ 19.0°C --- Sixdesign sold by MIPS
WFO -------------- 1.46v ------ 30°C -- Folding 48Hrs -- Q6600 GO @ 3.7GHz ---- 21.1°C ---- EK S-MAX Acetal
neo rtr ------------ 1.70v ------ 33°C ----------------- Q6700 @ 3.6GHz -------- 24.0°C ---- Sixdesign sold by MIPS
Clunk ------------- 1.74v ------ 35°C -- Prime over night --- Q6600 @ 3.6GHz ---------------- DangerDen Maze4

[neo_rtr]

I believe if I were a Borg, the correct statement would have been: Your data has been assimilated, to service us.

Heck, if you look at yours and my entry, when our ambient temp was closer togeather, I can tell we are getting very similar performance.
Only thing is, I'm running 2 blocks in 1 loop, -vs- your 5.
I believe you should be pleased with your temps...
The MIPS blocks look to be solid performers to me.

Members reported loaded NB temp's in the 'Aftermarket Block Club':
ABC Member ---- NB volts -- NB Loaded ------------------- CPU -------------- Ambient ---- NB Block
Talonman --------- 1.60v ------ 22°C -- 4HR Prime95 --- Q6600 GO @ 3.8GHz ---- 12.7°C ---- EK S-MAX Acetal
Creek Tha Gray --- 1.61v ------ 24°C -- OCCT at 30min ---- Q6700 @ 4.2GHz ---------------- EK S-MAX (Vapor Phase Change user)
Nikhsub1 ---------- 1.52v ------ 25°C ---------------------- Q6600 @ 3.7GHz --------------- MCW30
Talonman -------- 1.55v ------ 26°C -- 1HR Prime95 -- Q6600 GO @ 3.8GHz --- 16.6°C --- EK S-MAX Acetal
neo rtr ----------- 1.70v ------ 28°C ------------------- Q6700 @ 3.6GHz ------ 19.0°C --- Sixdesign sold by MIPS
WFO -------------- 1.46v ------ 30°C -- Folding 48Hrs -- Q6600 GO @ 3.7GHz ---- 21.1°C ---- EK S-MAX Acetal
neo rtr ------------ 1.70v ------ 33°C ----------------- Q6700 @ 3.6GHz -------- 24.0°C ---- Sixdesign sold by MIPS
Clunk ------------- 1.74v ------ 35°C -- Prime over night --- Q6600 @ 3.6GHz ---------------- DangerDen Maze4

Borg, It sounds Swedish!!! hehe
Pls when possible just add the "X" to my cpu as iam running on a QX6700
.

[Talonman]

Done!

[Durkadurka]

Finally I got my NB backplate sorted, and I have now mounted all my blocks.
Gonna start testing for leaks tomorrow.



For some reason, the screws I got from EK with the SB block (same thumbscrews that came with the NB block) was a tight fit. But I think they are ok.

[Talonman]

I look foward to your results Durkadurka.

Thanks for the post.

What RAD are you going to be running?

[Durkadurka]

I have already mounted a ThermoChill PA120.3 in the top of my Lian Li A70B case, using 3 Zalman ZM-F3 fans in a pull configuration.
I'll be using the Swiftech MCP655 pump, Clearflex 1/2" tubing and Feser One (Black) cooling fluid.
For hardware I got the QX9650, 4x 1GB Crucial Ballistix PC8500 and a 8500GT passively cooled videocard (using this while I wait for the nextgen topcard to be released).

[Talonman]

I have already mounted a ThermoChill PA120.3 in the top of my Lian Li A70B case, using 3 Zalman ZM-F3 fans in a pull configuration.
I'll be using the Swiftech MCP655 pump, Clearflex 1/2" tubing and Feser One (Black) cooling fluid.

All top quality gear...

It should do a fine job for you.

Just as a matter of trivia, did you go heat or cold to remove your stock cooling?

[Durkadurka]

I went for cold. I put it outside on the balcony for 30 min in -5 C, and then I could simply lift it off.
The board was brand new when doing this, hadnt been used so the TIM wouldnt have hardened on the NB.

[Talonman]

Clever.

[neo_rtr]

I went for cold. I put it outside on the balcony for 30 min in -5 C, and then I could simply lift it off.
The board was brand new when doing this, hadnt been used so the TIM wouldnt have hardened on the NB.

You just have to love the the weather in norway!

Good job!!

[Talonman]

ok so here we go testing tonight is

with NB at 1.61volts cpu is at 1.55 volts
fsb is 390mhz or rated fsb of 1560mhz
cpu is at 3.9ghz stable occt at 30min
temp on cpu is some where equal or below -22c jin unit temp is at -22c during the test.
NB was at 21c for first 8min or load then down to 20c for the last 17min or load and room temp is 24.6c

loop is MCP655, MCR220 QP, PA120.3, 2 x EK-Mosfet ASUS 3a (X38), EK-NB S-MAX, EK-NB/SB ASUS 3 then back to pump

I just corrected your entry... I never gave you your 20C credit.
I would love to see a picture of your setup BTW.
A 20°C loaded NB with an ambient temp of 24.6°C... These Vapor Phase Change guy's, what are you going to do with them?
They are the only ones I know that can give me a loaded temp 4.6°C below their ambient, and I still believe it!
Do you think we need to kick Creek and his fancy rig to the curb! He may be out classing us water only boys, and his numbers may make the pattern looked more skewed?
We could give him some Xtreme-Maximus title or something, wish him well, and send him on his way. As long as we keep his s#@% off the chart....
What say you?

All better, data integrity has been preserved:

Members reported loaded NB temp's in the 'Aftermarket Block Club':
ABC Member ---- NB volts -- NB Loaded ------------------- CPU ------------- Ambient --- NB Block
Creek Tha Gray --- 1.61v ------ 20°C -- OCCT at 30min - Q6700 GO @ 3.9GHz ---- 24.6°C ---- EK S-MAX (Vapor Phase Change user)
Talonman --------- 1.60v ------ 22°C -- 4HR Prime95 --- Q6600 GO @ 3.8GHz ---- 12.7°C ---- EK S-MAX Acetal
Nikhsub1 ---------- 1.52v ------ 25°C ---------------------- Q6600 @ 3.7GHz --------------- MCW30
Talonman --------- 1.55v ------ 26°C -- 1HR Prime95 --- Q6600 GO @ 3.8GHz ---- 16.6°C ---- EK S-MAX Acetal
neo rtr ------------ 1.70v ------ 28°C ------------------ QX6700 @ 3.6GHz ------ 19.0°C ---- Sixdesign sold by MIPS
WFO -------------- 1.46v ------ 30°C -- Folding 48Hrs -- Q6600 GO @ 3.7GHz ---- 21.1°C ---- EK S-MAX Acetal
neo rtr ------------ 1.70v ------ 33°C ------------------ QX6700 @ 3.6GHz ------ 24.0°C ---- Sixdesign sold by MIPS
Clunk ------------- 1.74v ------ 35°C -- Prime over night -- Q6600 @ 3.6GHz ----------------- DangerDen Maze4