Does POH completly disable the patch though (ie. no performance hit)?

I understand the concept of the VID settup now, I was talking about when you change the v's in AOD, sometimes you have to go up 2 bumps to get 1 etc... And I never try to change 2 different v's at the same time, thats just asking for problems in Vista64...

As for NewEgg being expensive, we don't all have an Uncle in the business...

I'll keep ya posted, I might be able to squeeze 20-30 more Mhz out of this one compared to my old chip.... Geeez, I've never been lucky in the chip lottery (well maybe my 3.0Ghz Opty, but thats it!)...