2008 XS Cheapazchips 3D challenge

[Rol-Co]

No I ordered a Zotac instead

let me guess.....the DDR3 version

[zakelwe]

Jusr managed to wipe out a stick of Corsair Dominator 6400CL3

Burning smell and then the sad results. Looks like I will be single channel for a while

Regards

Andy

[Zeus]

Jusr managed to wipe out a stick of Corsair Dominator 6400CL3

Burning smell and then the sad results. Looks like I will be single channel for a while

Regards

Andy

Aww, that blows.

Why don't you get yourself a pair of Ballistix, some of the PC5300 have D9 fatbodies on them which can hold very tight timings, perfect in conjunction with an Nvidia chipset.

Those Ballistix are dirtcheap, try ebay.

[zakelwe]

Aww, that blows.

Why don't you get yourself a pair of Ballistix, some of the PC5300 have D9 fatbodies on them which can hold very tight timings, perfect in conjunction with an Nvidia chipset.

Those Ballistix are dirtcheap, try ebay.

Hi Zeus,

It really blows because it was purely user error as well. Doh. Already ordered the Corsair again so too late. £165. Crucial used to be good but I am hoping now with 3 sticks of Dominator I can get at least 2 of them to run 3-3-3-1T at 438 which was impossible on this pair, see my logic, at least the remaining RAM module might still be of use. Knowing my luck I blew up the good one though....

I am really going for the 8400GS tonight, I am in a BLOWING UP mood! 2.2v on stock heatsink and hopefully 900Mhz. Ambients look good for the shed

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...t_weather.html


Regards

Andy

[Zeus]

Hi Zeus,

It really blows because it was purely user error as well. Doh. Already ordered the Corsair again so too late. £165. Crucial used to be good but I am hoping now with 3 sticks of Dominator I can get at least 2 of them to run 3-3-3-1T at 438 which was impossible on this pair, see my logic, at least the remaining RAM module might still be of use. Knowing my luck I blew up the good one though....

I am really going for the 8400GS tonight, I am in a BLOWING UP mood! 2.2v on stock heatsink and hopefully 900Mhz. Ambients look good for the shed

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...t_weather.html


Regards

Andy

3:00 is your best bet, -4ºC and good visibility, hehe.

438 3-3-3 isn't real special, any good pair of D9 should be able to do that but cas 3 requires some voltage.

165 quid is a lot of money for DDR2 nowadays.

[zakelwe]

3:00 is your best bet, -4ºC and good visibility, hehe.

438 3-3-3 isn't real special, any good pair of D9 should be able to do that but cas 3 requires some voltage.

165 quid is a lot of money for DDR2 nowadays.

Yeah but you can use it as a comb as well

If I had no sticks left then I would have bought something else, 3 sticks will allow me to pick the best two though.

Regards

Andy

[STEvil]

You need better cooling there.. stock lmao!

[zakelwe]

Well I spent 4 hours in temps of 0C to -2C and gained absolutely nothing whilst got more and more grumpy until I decided screw it and went inside.

It started off with finding the sweet spot on the gpu volt wise which was 1.03v. This gave me 48C at idle which is Ok. Normal idle is 19C in the shed. Then I went up to 2v but got saturation as idle was 65-66C which is too high. I reseted and put proper paste on the stock heatsink but no better. I was thinking of modifying a cpu heatsink but then again my memory on the cards started of great and then went down hill. I almost managed another 27K run but then it hung on on car lo.

I tried 3dmark03 and after some low 700/540 runs to warm up tried 700/550 and it locked up twice in GT4 almost at the end.

What a rubbish evening. Somebody get me a Zotac GDDR3 card to save my sanity ...

Regards

Andy

[G H Z]

Sounds like it's time for a new card Andy. This DDR2 Zotac is pretty good, 1.53V - stock memory voltage

The cap ratings (solid) on this thing are pretty amazing in itself, especially for a low end card. If they we're doing this kind of thing on high-end we'd all be buying Zotac cards.

[dinos22]

OMG that's crazy G H Z

[zakelwe]

1.53V for 550Mhz

Nice score GHZ, can you post a link to futuremark and I will stick it in for #1 spot. Same for any 2001 score.


That heatsink looks like it belongs there as well, nice choice.

Regards

Andy

[dinos22]

looks like we're gonna have to chase down those DDR3 based cards to compete with GHZ there lol

waaaaay too good a card
and what's worse it's in GHZ's hands as well EEEEEEK

[[XC] gomeler]

1.53V for 550Mhz

Nice score GHZ, can you post a link to futuremark and I will stick it in for #1 spot. Same for any 2001 score.


That heatsink looks like it belongs there as well, nice choic.

Regards

Andy

I think he was saying 1.53v on the core, stock memory voltage.

Nice run there, huge memory bandwidth

[zakelwe]

Thanks Gomeler, my brain must still be frozen from last night.

Got back in the Shed this morning and applied a quick pencil volt mod to the memory to push it from 1.94v to 2.0v and what do you know I can do 570 mem again Either that is a sweet spot, the qimonda does not like cold or else my card is just all over the place. After 4 hours freezing my butt off last night it is so easy this morning. Sadly it is already getting too hot in the Shed because although outside air is 5.4C the shed is already up to 15C as it acts as a heatsink with it's construction of wood with heat absorbing waterproof felt roof.

I have been doing some 700/570 runs in nature this morning to look at the effects of LOD. I also changed down from 69.21 drivers to 58.22 as they gave me an extra 800 points with a couple of 8600GT's I am also playing with at the moment.

Here's nature with various LOD settings

LOD/FPS

3.6=132.3
3.8=133.2
4.0=134.4
4.3=135.0
4.5=134.7
4.8=133.9
5.0=133.0

So sweet spot is 4.3 for me rather than the normal 3.3-3.6 range for 6 and 7 series nvidia. Interestingly Zeus told me that the 8800GTS likes 4.9 so there is obviously a need to help reduce the textures on the later cards that are texture limited with 64, 128 and 256bit buses. Of course this does not matter for all the new shader intensive games, but when you are running only PS 1.1 like 2001 nature uses then the texture processing becomes a bottleneck.

Just doing some LOD runs on dragothic....

Regards

Andy

[jan]

i killed my card...i mounted the stock cooler without contact to the die
stupid me

maybe i'll try a zotac

[Zeus]

Nice find Andy, strange how that card differs to my 8800GTS, my old 7900GTO also liked 4.9 best.

If you're going to try for dragotics best lod, don't forget to close 3d mark and start a new one after each test or even better, reboot in between each test.

[zakelwe]

Nice find Andy, strange how that card differs to my 8800GTS, my old 7900GTO also liked 4.9 best.

If you're going to try for dragotics best lod, don't forget to close 3d mark and start a new one after each test or even better, reboot in between each test.

At the moment my runs go like this

Do dragothic, while doing that do a bit of washing up.
Do Lobby, while doing that brush the patio.
Do Car, while doing that get my daughter ready for her bath.

While running some entire 3dmark03's today I painted some hinges with hammerite, no kidding.

With my wife just running it and then running elsewhere is the best I can do!

It's looking good for tonight though, 28k and 11k for 2001 and 03. Er, but didn't say that yesterday ??

If I had a .44 Smith and Wesson I'd shoot that mutha fecking mutha

It's a love hate relation ship with the emphasis half way through the month on hate

Regards

Andy

[[XC] DragonOrta]

I think for DL I found that something around 2.6 gave me the best results. Or maybe that was CL.

Actually it was both of them. And I found 4.1 to give me highest FPS for Nature.

Is the pencil mod for the vMEM just across the resistor that Johnny Bravo marked in his pic of Vmods?

[zakelwe]

I think for DL I found that something around 2.6 gave me the best results. Or maybe that was CL.

Actually it was both of them. And I found 4.1 to give me highest FPS for Nature.

Is the pencil mod for the vMEM just across the resistor that Johnny Bravo marked in his pic of Vmods?

Yep, that's the one.

Regards

Andy

[Rol-Co]

just testing some with the card...not realy happy with the memory, some of you guy's can run 540+

can be better but that stupid wolf doesn't let me



Validation

[zakelwe]

Firstly sorry to see your card blew up Jan, time still to get another if you have the money and inclination.

Nice work Rol-Co, first person to hit 1GHz on core it must have done a fair few runs now at that speed so it's a tough little chip. Obviously the memory speed is holding you back big time which cannot be helped.

Hows it go in 03? Your huge shader "powaa!" should pay dividends I would have thought.

Regards

Andy

[zakelwe]

Finally got the memory working OK. Lost some gpu power but the trade off was worth it.

800/1987/570 1.91v gpu and 2.01v mem. LOD 4.3 for nature and 2.8 for all other tests. 28021 http://service.futuremark.com/result...4&resultType=6

Not sure how much I lose from running just one stick of memory in lobby etc?

Regards

Andy

[Rol-Co]

nice one m8

gona run 2003 too but think my memory ia holding me up, i'm jealous to see you guy's doing 540-560

[dinos22]

At the moment my runs go like this

Do dragothic, while doing that do a bit of washing up.
Do Lobby, while doing that brush the patio.
Do Car, while doing that get my daughter ready for her bath.

While running some entire 3dmark03's today I painted some hinges with hammerite, no kidding.

hahahaha farking hell Andy you're too funny
you better tell me you're a comedian or i'll be very disappointed

[hifiking]

Arg, my memory can´t go over 420. But the core does 940, I will add some more volt to the memory tomorrow.