First 9600GT review

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You were the first person in the thread to say the words DX 10.1, one person mentioned SM 4.1 being missing as a surprise but not DX 10.1. It's a matter of interpretation but since you consistently place DX 10.1 & SM 4.1 as 2 seperate words they are for your purposes, seperate.

What´s the problem of talking of it. Or you didn´t expected 9xxx suport it?

If for you talking about DX_10.1 is stupid, i can tell you that ignoring it is equal or more stupid

Those financials do not take into account GeForce 9 sales so are for this point, worthless.

Offcourse not. They where from Q4 2007, but you are just in the midle of Q1 2008 and there is no Geforce 9xxx in the market, also process manufacturing still 65nm in 9xxx. This delays will also hurt then this quarter.

55nm & DX 10.1/SM 4.1 are little more than marketing tools for AMD right now. Power Consumption for the 3650 is marginally less than the 2600XT but not as good as you'd expect with 65nm > 55nm.

Think what you want. For some people is important, for others aren´t, but in one think you are very wrong and that´s 55nm.
That will give ATI more margins and specially much impact in mobile sector.
In Q4 2007 ATI grow 8% in mobile, and by digitimes ATI will continue to grow throw the year to very big numbers.

For example Puma plataform have now more then 100+ OEM contracts. That means all AMD mobile laptops will include RS780 IGP with HD 3200/3300 in 55nm and OEM are very interested in that. In China RS780 is already pushing up AMD low-end CPU sales.

Nvidia will be strong in desktop despite ATI also have strong products now, but in mobile Nvidia will run into problem. They can take some discrete mobile, but centrino and Puma plataforms are closed and it closes doors to Nvidia IGPs, and that´s a very very very large market. Intel is leader in GPU mobile because of this.
The second probem is that even in discrete mobile Nvidia has 65nm chips, and ATI 55nm chips.

So all in all for mobile should be great year for ATI, and for desktop Nvidia should mantein good share.

Lets not forget, this is XtremeSystems and Performance is what the people here expect, performance that for those that can't afford a 3870X2 or a 8800GTS/GTX/Ultra they can find in the 9600GT, especially when gaming with AA on.

I don´t say the oposite....

Carp on all you like, you just keep coming across as a desperate ATi fanboy who believes all the hype & tries to derail any thread which might contain any form of positives for nVidia.

Ya right, I said a number of facts and everyone is a fanboy