Quote Originally Posted by rge View Post

Instead of arguing how much degradation is occurring or not, why don't we collect the info in a manner that is indisputable and demonstrable, and quantify it?
I agree, but I'm sick of listening to people without these cpu's, or without any degredation posting that it doesn't happen...I mean really, it's not like I'm saying all are gonna die..I hardly think that to be true.

But all this crap posting about it not possible, merely gets in the way of us that do have issue comapring to see whether there is a common factor here that can prevent others from experiencing the same!

Now I've posted how my cpu has been. If you've read my posts in the past, you'll be aware that I won't even bench until prime stable. that's at a very minimum of 12 hrs of prime

however, I want to make something perfectly clear...it may very well be orthos and prime that are killing these cpus.

Currently, as far as I can tell, alot of newer baords feature dynamic phase control of the PWM. I've yet to investigate this, but it seems to me that when usage drops on some boards, so do half of the used phases of the PWM. It also occurs to me that it's more than possible that when this change occurs, there is a bit of over-compensation occuring on the remaining 4-phases, possibly overshooting voltage supplied to the cpu, and thereby causing the damage.

SO before you start priming...are you using an asus board w/ EPU, or a board with digital PWM? Do you think, even if remotely...that it could be prime95/orthos, two of the highest current-drawing stability tests there are?

If so, I'd hazard gainst using prime @ more than 1.3675v until we either find the cpu's or boards as faulty!!!!