The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[joe.denice]

ok so I own this board and the evga 780i and my options are to keep this and use a 3870x2 or use the 780i board and 2 8800gtx's.... Thoughts??

[Robin77]

Agreed. If you read this thread (item 3) http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=162085 , you would know that Anantech (raju) found that over 47C on the NB caused instabilities. Having read Raju's posts on many boards, I would not question his conclusions.

I already read this, but again, if you read my postings you would know that my MB works rock stable (testet 48 hours running prime on both cores of my CPU and 3DMark 06 simultaniously).
And what has more weight? Whatever Asus may claim (if they'd even do so) or what Intel the builder of the NB officially testet out and made public in their tech specs....

The answer is of caurse that Intel is right and my rockstable low idle temp of ~69 C prove this.
I can't tell you why anansdtech has problems with temps that are on the very low side of the allowed temps. Maybe they should RMA their board.
Also when you read all posts from http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...60945&page=156
you'll notice that there are indeed more users without problems running NB temps of 50 C.

What I just want to point here clearely out is that noone needs to care about totally good NB temps below 90 C. This is what was testet from Intel and this is what many examples prove.



One question: are u guys with that low NB temps using the little fan that is in the package that anandtec recommends for cooling the NB? That would (maybe) explain your ultralow temps of 45 C or even less.

[UnSeenSVK]

..i m really nervous..couse that ram doesn t work.. i tied everithink,,if i change somethink in bios system freez....

look... i have to have everythink on auto...CPU clocking is ok but a want get more from ram

http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=beznzvumk0.jpg

[chensen78]

i just got my maximus formula. the problem is i can't get to bios setup with my keyboard. it's razer tarantula with USB connection. is there a fix?

[Wolf2000me]

I see on a lot of setups that the PCI-E frequency is set above 100Mhz. Usually 110Mhz. I thought I'd give that a shot myself but during a 3dmark session I got a BSOD. So what's the increase in PCI-E freq. for?

[Eastcoasthandle]

I see on a lot of setups that the PCI-E frequency is set above 100Mhz. Usually 110Mhz. I thought I'd give that a shot myself but during a 3dmark session I got a BSOD. So what's the increase in PCI-E freq. for?

Other boards required that you increase PCIe frequency when you OC'd or else you run into component stability problems (HD, etc). However, from what I've seen so far Asus boards don't require you to increase the PCIe frequency when you OC.

[Eastcoasthandle]

DDR2 Controller REF Voltage
This is the dram vtt. Should be half of the vdimm in most cases.
It helps stabilizing the vdimm. Leave it at DDR2_REF and use also
the white slots. These seems well so as not to have ripple on vdimm when
stressing memory

thanks!

[Wolf2000me]

Other boards required that you increase PCIe frequency when you OC'd or else you run into component stability problems (HD, etc). However, from what I've seen so far Asus boards don't require you to increase the PCIe frequency when you OC.

I'd have ran into trouble with my raid array if the board did require an increased PCI-E freq then.
Thanks for the info

[Eastcoasthandle]

how can help me please...?..i can t get from my ram maximum...

i ve got that kingston hyperX 1200mhz..and is runnig at 920mhz and it is not stale...


http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=suckbt7.jpg

What is the rated voltage of your ram and what do you have dram voltage set to?

PCI-E Frequency: 100
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Enabled (FSB Strap to North Bridge = 400)
BOOST: 0

OR
Transaction Booster : Disabled (FSB Strap to North Bridge = 333)
BOOST: 0

DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

This tid bit of information may or may not help you.

[Jodiuh]

One question: are u guys with that low NB temps using the little fan that is in the package that anandtec recommends for cooling the NB? That would (maybe) explain your ultralow temps of 45 C or even less.

I'm using a quiet 5CFM 40mm from the Jing Ting NB Cooler. Dropped temps 7C.

[Eastcoasthandle]

I'd have ran into trouble with my raid array if the board did require an increased PCI-E freq then.
Thanks for the info

No problem, one of the main reason why PCI-E Frequency 100 was used instead of auto was to prevent it from going over or under 100. However, that was a long time ago. As you can see motherboards have improved since then. On my P5W I had mine set to Auto with the CPU set to 3.6GHz with 2 HDs and never had any problems. However, I didn't have a raid either

[Wolf2000me]

I used to run a raid array on my nforce2 board with high FSB. Short term problems were never really there but I did kill more disks than originally anticipated. And that's with a bus frequency lock enabled.
On my old via board my disks didn't die that easily and these bus frequencies weren't locked. The PCI frequency was way out of spec but my brother is still running that board with original raid0 disk setup. I bought those back in 2002. I guess it's all relative

[Grnfinger]

I already read this, but again, if you read my postings you would know that my MB works rock stable (testet 48 hours running prime on both cores of my CPU and 3DMark 06 simultaniously).
And what has more weight? Whatever Asus may claim (if they'd even do so) or what Intel the builder of the NB officially testet out and made public in their tech specs....

The answer is of caurse that Intel is right and my rockstable low idle temp of ~69 C prove this.
I can't tell you why anansdtech has problems with temps that are on the very low side of the allowed temps. Maybe they should RMA their board.
Also when you read all posts from http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...60945&page=156
you'll notice that there are indeed more users without problems running NB temps of 50 C.

What I just want to point here clearely out is that noone needs to care about totally good NB temps below 90 C. This is what was testet from Intel and this is what many examples prove.



One question: are u guys with that low NB temps using the little fan that is in the package that anandtec recommends for cooling the NB? That would (maybe) explain your ultralow temps of 45 C or even less.

I didnt buy the SE to cool it with a fan
my NB hits 45 at full load not idle

[Prodigys]

Guys, what for settings should i use for 475 x 9 ?

This is for an Q6600 G0...

[Zucker2k]

Guys, what for settings should i use for 475 x 9 ?

This is for an Q6600 G0...

Goodluck overclocking that sucker!

[Prodigys]

Goodluck overclocking that sucker!

Q6600 G0 L737B242 VID 1.169 .

4Ghz on 1.42VCore; 24 hour prime stable. That's why i ask for settings of 475 x 9 .

[CERO]

very nice rare cpu u got there, mine got exact same PFO, but it has a VID of 1.2125

[neo_rtr]

I'm using a quiet 5CFM 40mm from the Jing Ting NB Cooler. Dropped temps 7C.

I did try that method as well. yes it did drop some on mine. but i didnt thought that was not good enough so i added a 80mm fan, standing on the vga. with a 80mm fan to blow 1/2 at the NB 1/2 on the memory was getting about 42C idle room temp 24c
The case is Stacker 832 with side panel 4 fans and running a QX6700 @ 3.6Ghz with NBvolt 1,65V (1,71V in everest) was getting about 47C full load (crysis for several hours for example)

With out fan idle i wrote down the following temps, idle, at the time
Cpu 31C,MB 48C, NB 45-48C, SB 43C
on load was getting mb,nb,sb aprox 55C

now runnign watercooling and getting top 42C on load
NB core is reported 1.70v by everest
Bios 0907

Ps i regret i did not remove and re apply thermal paste to it before the WC was installed.

[iTravis]

I'm at 3.5Ghz stable with vcore at 1.46V (too high?) and I have trouble at 3.6Ghz, it keeps failing OCCT after couple mins or so. And whenever I set Transaction Booster to Disable or Enable, system won't boot. This is my settings for 3.5 OCCT stable so maybe you guys can make some suggestions for 3.6?
BIOS 0907
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency :389
FSB Strap to North Bridge :400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-778
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : 1.46v
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51v
DRAM Voltage : 2.10v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.5v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05v
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5v

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : ENABLED

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[Talonman]

I too am looking for advice.

Currently running at 3.7GHz, was wondering if I could get 3.8GHz or even the coveted 4.0GHz?

My Maximus is on water, and kept in a cold 61F(Today) Ohio basement.

This is a screen shot I just took minutes ago, using the BIOS settings listed below.
My temps are currently reflecting just over 1 hour of hard labor running Prime95:


These are my current best BIOS 907 settings: Always looking for advice.

Under Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 414
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-828MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.46250v (BIOS)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51v (BIOS)
DRAM Voltage : 1.80v (BIOS)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44v (BIOS)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05v (BIOS)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS)

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Under Advanced
And USB Configuration :
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled
Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled

Things that seem to be currently true on my system:

If I enable Transaction Booster with all other BIOS setting the same as listed above, the system will err out on the LCD Poster during the RAM check.

It dosen't seem to matter if I use the 333 or the 400 NB FSB Strap, If I set my FSB Frequency above 414, Prime95 will register an error within 45 minutes. The higher you set it above 414, the quicker you receive the error. OCCT is not as pickey. Prime95 was the first to complain using a 415 FSB Frequency.

Doing some fine tuning...

I walked the NB voltage down to 1.49v before starting to get Prime95 errors. I then moved the voltage back up to 1.51v and successfully primed for 1.5 hours. 1.51v Is what I am currently using, and is listed above.

I started to see how much CPU voltage it takes for me to successfully run @ 3.7GHz. A BIOS setting of 1.46250v has already passed a 1.5 hour Prime95 test error free for me. I still continued the process down to a BIOS setting of 1.45v's. Prime95 began to register errors at this point. I set my CPU voltage back up to 1.46250v and am currently using it for my keeper setting.

Note: I am currently running on 1 2GB stick of ram in the White slot closest to the CPU. The other stick would not allow my system to boot no matter what slot I tried it in. LCD Poster would fail the RAM check.

My RAM is rated at 1.8v's and 5-5-5-18 by Corsair.

[ZenEffect]

^^^to this guy... here is my settings for just below 4ghz... and imma run this every day, by the time this cpu burns up *been overclocking for years and years and years... even oc'd a amd 80486dx4 to 112mhz and ive NEVER EVER seen a processor go bad from general everyday use with these volts* it will be long past overdue for an upgrade.


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 438
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1167
DRAM Command Rate : AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Enabled
Boost level 0
CPU Voltage : 1.506
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.46
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : .63
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : DISABLED

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Enabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled



sorry pics are a few days old before i lapped cpu
going for 4 prime stable this weekend... gonna lap my waterblock as i see its got a few good scratches from bad shipping and bring my cpu up to 2000 grit *1200 right now lapped it yesterday*
temps were mid to high 60's full load depending on amb temps now low 60's

the epu/loadline calibration on this thing must be working because my idle volts are less than load 1.488 idle 1.496 load... i thought i was supposed to get less volts under load *vdroop*

1 last thing... HOW POINTLESS IS THAT SILLY LITTLE FAN THEY INCLUDED TO COOL DOWN THE PWM? LMAO!! A HAMSTER ON A WHEEL COULD GENERATE MORE AIR

why do i have a creative sound icon and a soundmax icon on the bottom right? BECAUSE MY X-FI TOOK A BIG FAT DUMP. thank god for rma

[Zucker2k]

Time to start applying some pressure on those bios engineers through tech support:

ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. (Taiwan)
Technical Support
Hotline: +886-2-2894-3447 (0800-093-456)
Email: http://vip.asus.com/eservice/techserv.aspx

Knock yourselves out.

[ZenEffect]

Time to start applying some pressure on those bios engineers through tech support:

ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. (Taiwan)
Technical Support
Hotline: +886-2-2894-3447 (0800-093-456)
Email: http://vip.asus.com/eservice/techserv.aspx

Knock yourselves out.

[fordf250]

I didnt buy the SE to cool it with a fan
my NB hits 45 at full load not idle

I got a very good nb then as it runs 33-36C full load on air at 545fsb and 1.71Vnb with a 120mm 80cfm fan set at 5V.

[Warboy]