Good design, good overclock, good pipe-The MSI P35 Neo2-FR overview

[caligula]

Couldn't run 4x1GB memory on this board without pressing F4 in the Cell Menu and setting the values as in the picture.
The CPU is a Q6600@400x9=3.6GHz, memory is tested to work perfectly on this board in 2x1GB at 1200MHz 5-5-5-12, however, due to a stupid bios limitation I cannot run it more than 1000MHz 5-4-4-12. As Anandtech has outlined well, it's a crappy glitch. Tried to up vmem or vmch, no result.

[clon22]

Those temps are way too high. From the look of the board, it's either the Neo Combo-F or the Neo-F, definitely not the Neo2-FR.

Running a Neo2-FR with a 4.15ghz Q6600, the mosfets on mine read about 110F using an infared temp sensor.

You have a very cool processor there!
4.2ghz.
Powerful! ...

[clon22]

I will test an e2140 on monday on this board

Also going to test this board with some D9 to test the max fsb. Max fsb i hit so far is 528 with a passiv cooled NB.

Cool!
I managed to upped my E2140 alittle.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=303416

[Jimbo Mahoney]

What's the deal with the FSB jumper on this board?

Does it set the MCH strap / timings?

Is there the option to adjust "Performance Level" (aka tRD) in the BIOS?

Thanks

[[XC] DragonOrta]

No option for PL (tRD) in BIOS.

[ownage]

Cool!
I managed to upped my E2140 alittle.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=303416

I have an e2140 L725A here, and it clocks horrible. Max is 3050mhz
Which voltage settings did u use?

[bonzo_catalin]

Couldn't run 4x1GB memory on this board without pressing F4 in the Cell Menu and setting the values as in the picture.
The CPU is a Q6600@400x9=3.6GHz, memory is tested to work perfectly on this board in 2x1GB at 1200MHz 5-5-5-12, however, due to a stupid bios limitation I cannot run it more than 1000MHz 5-4-4-12. As Anandtech has outlined well, it's a crappy glitch. Tried to up vmem or vmch, no result.

Did you tried max FSB ?

[clon22]

I have an e2140 L725A here, and it clocks horrible. Max is 3050mhz
Which voltage settings did u use?

I'm using madness voltage.
1.625v to hit that.
hehehe.... :p
Usual running 3.2ghz @ 1.4v.

[tty]

What's the deal with the FSB jumper on this board?

Does it set the MCH strap / timings?

Is there the option to adjust "Performance Level" (aka tRD) in the BIOS?

Thanks

Performance Level is affected by setting TRFC in bios.
For example on my 2x2GB Adata if I set 54 performance level is 8 and if I set it to 48 is 7.

[Bl4ck^!]

this 1.83 beta bios pwns , i have Transcend aXeRam 2x1 + OCZ XTC Titanium EPP running for now @ 456Mhz - 4-4-4-14 -6-6-6-6 +PL @7 , couldn't do this with 1.7beta3 . Another thing ... i can now run my Xeon 0.5V core less then on 1.7 0_o , interesting.

[turtleonviagra]

The max FSB I can get my my Neo2-FR (1.83B and Rev. 1.1) and E8400 (Q745A) is 505fsb, which is disappointing. It isn't a huge problem but I had DDR1000 ram and wanted to have the FSB above 500fsb. Currently running it @4.3ghz (478 X 9) with 1.38v under load, and it ran 9.5 hours Orthos Blend Stable without any errors. Any tips on getting my FSB any higher, I have ran up the VTT and NB Voltage and still no go.

[[XC] DragonOrta]

have you tried setting the jumpers below the first PCI-E x16 slot to 333fsb?

[turtleonviagra]

have you tried setting the jumpers below the first PCI-E x16 slot to 333fsb?

I am pretty postive I set the jumpers to the 333fsb stap but I'll just double check as the FSB I recorded on the board and CPU don't mirror others results one bit.

[turtleonviagra]

Checked if the jumpers and they where set-up correctly (333 setting). I wonder whats holding me back, and body else with a wolfdale and a P35 Neo2? What are your results and what setting used, BIOS, etc.

[clon22]

I'm using an E8400.
1st one was Q748, pretty yucky.
Max fsb was 530 but need 1.475v for 4ghz and 1.6v for 4.2ghz.

The 2nd one is better.
1.27v for 4ghz, 1.5375v for 4.5ghz.
Have yet to test max fsb on this one.

[StyM]

here's mine...

[Dr.Leary]

Have anyone tested this board with 4x1Gb D9GXX? Thinking about buying another pair of 8500 Ballistix. What could I expect with ~2,3 volts 24/7?
1200Mhz 5-5-5-15?

[clon22]

here's mine...

You're still on ver1.0 bios...
Flash to 1.1 would be gd thou...
If on wolfdale, 1.7 and up.

[@rne]

Have anyone tested this board with 4x1Gb D9GXX? Thinking about buying another pair of 8500 Ballistix. What could I expect with ~2,3 volts 24/7?
1200Mhz 5-5-5-15?

It is not possible to run very high clocks on that Board. I can't give reasons for that but i made this experience twice (with xp-8500 of mushkin and crucial 8500er ballistix).
But hey, the performance is even good with such "low" clocks so don't worry

[turtleonviagra]

I'm using an E8400.
1st one was Q748, pretty yucky.
Max fsb was 530 but need 1.475v for 4ghz and 1.6v for 4.2ghz.

The 2nd one is better.
1.27v for 4ghz, 1.5375v for 4.5ghz.
Have yet to test max fsb on this one.

I have a Q745 and the max I am getting for fsb is around 530fsb, but it clocks great besides that. I have ram that does 550mhz and it would be awesome if I could do 550fsb x 8...

[tty]

Bios is getting better. Apart from the good old 1.10 now 1.83 and 1.84 seem stable and clock high enough.

[@rne]

THX for the info, i'll try that

[clon22]

Bios is getting better. Apart from the good old 1.10 now 1.83 and 1.84 seem stable and clock high enough.

How's your v1.84??

[wyemarn]

MSI seems like releasing beta BIOS every one or two weeks. I've flashed more than 10times since owning the board for around 3 months. Would excessive flashing damage the BIOS chip?

[tty]

1.84 is the same as 1.83 except that it fixes some reboot problems on 8xxx cpu. Thats what I heard.

About bios flashing:
"In the earliest EAROMs, this might occur after as few as 1,000 write cycles, while in modern Flash EEPROM the endurance may exceed 1,000,000, but it is by no means infinite."
In other words don't worry about flashing, I don't see myself flashing over 100 times not to mention 1 million.
I must admit I flashed the bios on this board about 30 times by now.

And some good news. I got this 2x2GB Adata 800+ extreme memory ($100+). It works up to 1120MHz on this board using only 2.2v and 5-5-5-15-48 .
Currently running at 1066MHz 5-5-5-15 2.05v .