Official GIGA P35-S3/DS3/DS3R/DS3P/DS4/DQ6 bios/info thread

[diablos]

Yes F9 for DS3P 2 passes on memtest no errors.

sorry, fot the ds3p the bios F9 wich improvement give?

thanks

[necron66]

sorry, fot the ds3p the bios F9 wich improvement give?

thanks

It looked the same as F8, but I didn't use F8 for long due to the ram errors, so I'm not really sure. My g.skill PC2 8500 HK's run good now tho.

[diablos]

It looked the same as F8, but I didn't use F8 for long due to the ram errors, so I'm not really sure. My g.skill PC2 8500 HK's run good now tho.

Now i have the F6, F8 and F9 wich improvement give?

[Mr.Bones]

I would also like to confirm no memtest86+ v1.7 errors with F11 for me Thank you Gigabyte!

Same here......Now they need to get the fan headers to work properly,This board has the worst fan control Ive ever seen Dont know about you guys but I think ET5 needs a major overhaul also It flat out Sucks!

[LasVegas]

I have followed these posts for the past couple of weeks; thanks for all the tips.

My own results are as follows:
First: I have a GA-P35-DS3R v. 2.0 MB, with Q6600 G0 stepping cpu (OEM version from newegg). I've installed 8 GB of Corsair TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX ram. I am using Suse Linux 10.3. cpu cooling is an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro. I have an Antec Sonata III case, and I've added a 120 mm internal fan to keep the various chipsets and graphics card cool (nvidia 7300 GT, I believe; no fan on it).

I had the usual memory errors with BIOS F9, F10. I was using F8 until I realized that it was overheating my CPU; these bioses are clearly changing around the various voltages (or the way they are reported). F8 was hot. I thought F11 was also giving the same memtest errors, until people reported no problems...so I went back to the tweeking drawing board...

Using F11 (or any of the other bios versions), I've only been able to OC to 3.0 GHz (9X333), using standard 5-5-5-18 RAM timings and keeping RAM speed to the rated 800 MHz (though I think it will work slightly OC'ed; 832, I think). To achieve error free memory, according to memtest, I had to +0.2 V memory, FSB, MCH and bump the CPU voltage up to 1.40V. I may be able to lower these voltages with some additional tweeking. I ran out of patience with microtweeking only to find an unstable system,so I jumped ahead a bit (+0.1 voltages weren't working; "Is there any stable configuration at all?"). CPU temperatures are in the mid-30's idle and just over 60C under load. All of the Intel speed auto adjust/powersavings options are disabled. (In fact, it looks like Linux disables speed step when the cpu is OC'd.)

Stable/unstable are being tested using memtest 1.7 and mprime (which is prime95 for Linux, I believe). I run four instances of mprime to test. I had a hard time getting memory stable. While microtweeking, things would look initially stable, but then memory errors would crop up after about a half hour of memtest; eventually I found stability with the settings above. 5 hours on memtest without error, similar for "mprime -t". The computer is used for scientific work; I can't adopt the "well it works o.k." philosophy (nothing wrong with that, I just can't do that) I also consider the system unstable if mprime aborts on error (or if the system freezes, of course)

I've not been able to find any stable configuration above 3.0 GHz. I tried 8X400=3.2 GHz, but curiously Linux recognized this as a 3.6 GHz cpu (even though bios reported 3.2 GHz at boot up). That failed mprime in a hurry. 9X366=3.3 GHz passed memtest o.k., but quickly failed the mprime torture test. (Yet more cpu voltage? I hesitate.)

Perhaps I just have an "unlucky" Q6600... Still, 3 Ghz is nice. (I hope AMD can get their quad-core situation turned around.)

Thanks again for all the info, and thanks for any tips y'all may be able to offer!

[swaaye]

did u set "performance enhance" to standard? That setting gives me instability with overclocks sometimes if I have it on Turbo or Extreme (especially).

Yeah, it is possible you have a relatively poor Q6600. What kind of Vdroop do you see when all cores are loaded with Prime95? At 1.425 BIOS, I see 1.31-1.33v loaded, for example.

[LasVegas]

did u set "performance enhance" to standard? That setting gives me instability with overclocks sometimes if I have it on Turbo or Extreme (especially).

Yes, I've always set that to standard. The flashing red warning was enough for me...

Yeah, it is possible you have a relatively poor Q6600. What kind of Vdroop do you see when all cores are loaded with Prime95? At 1.425 BIOS, I see 1.31-1.33v loaded, for example.

(Did you mean 1.325 BIOS, per your signature?)

The bios setting is 1.40V. At idle, "sensors" (the linux utility for reporting on hardware state) reports the cpu at 1.36V, I believe, although that's a bit of a guess (Its labeled "in0"). Under load it drops to 1.31V. A curious thing vdroop. Although having tested this now, idle is now 1.34V, and 1.31V under load. Perhaps I do have a bit of leeway to tweek the core voltage up a bit.

I would guess that RAM voltage, set to 2.0 in BIOS (+0.2V) is being reported as 1.95V. (labeled as "in1")

I'm never quite sure if things are being reported correctly, though...

I forgot to mention that I have a version 2.0 GA-P35-DS3R MB.

Added later: I've just tried 1.425 V and 9X366=3.3 GHz. That locked up under mprime in a few seconds. Too bad. I wonder if the OEM versions of the Q6600 overclock less than the boxed versions. The former perhaps being intended for computer makers who would not overclock, the latter intended for afficionados.

[miahallen]

Yes, I've always set that to standard. The flashing red warning was enough for me...


(Did you mean 1.325 BIOS, per your signature?)

The bios setting is 1.40V. At idle, "sensors" (the linux utility for reporting on hardware state) reports the cpu at 1.36V, I believe, although that's a bit of a guess (Its labeled "in0"). Under load it drops to 1.31V. A curious thing vdroop. Although having tested this now, idle is now 1.34V, and 1.31V under load. Perhaps I do have a bit of leeway to tweek the core voltage up a bit.

I would guess that RAM voltage, set to 2.0 in BIOS (+0.2V) is being reported as 1.95V. (labeled as "in1")

I'm never quite sure if things are being reported correctly, though...

I forgot to mention that I have a version 2.0 GA-P35-DS3R MB.

Added later: I've just tried 1.425 V and 9X366=3.3 GHz. That locked up under mprime in a few seconds. Too bad. I wonder if the OEM versions of the Q6600 overclock less than the boxed versions. The former perhaps being intended for computer makers who would not overclock, the latter intended for afficionados.

You might be a bit limited by your cooling. The ACF7 Pro was great back in K8 dual core days...but with the quads, something a little beefier would be more appropriate for high OCs. Watch your temps, and make sure your staying under 80C at load. I've run my Q6600 with up to 1.575V without problems (got me 8hrs prime95 stable at 3.85GHz) with "only" air cooling, so you still have plenty of headroom with your voltage....so long as your cooling is up to the task.

FYI - my "only" air cooling setup was at ambient temps around 8C and 110CFM blowing through my TRUE.

[LasVegas]

You might be a bit limited by your cooling. The ACF7 Pro was great back in K8 dual core days...but with the quads, something a little beefier would be more appropriate for high OCs. Watch your temps, and make sure your staying under 80C at load. I've run my Q6600 with up to 1.575V without problems (got me 8hrs prime95 stable at 3.85GHz) with "only" air cooling, so you still have plenty of headroom with your voltage....so long as your cooling is up to the task.

I see...you are suggesting that I might get stability at higher speeds if I boost my cpu's voltage up more, but that my cooling is marginal for that. That was also my impression of the AFC7 Pro, according to reviews, but it seemed serviceable enough and cost effective. I was not really aiming to stress my system out too much to get that additional 5-10% cpu speed, so I'll have to think about whether I want to continue boosting the cpu voltage up. I'll let you know if I get a little faster and remain stable with greater voltage. I was just a little surprised to be limited to 3.0 GHz, seeing the speeds that others have gotten on "stock" voltage.

So far, I consider mid-30'sC idle, and ca. 60C under load to be just fine. Heat doesn't seem to have been a problem so far. If you are mentioning 80C as a practical upper limit, then perhaps my system will support the additional voltage; I have a ways to go to get to 80 C! (Or perhaps I should just keep my computer in a freezer...)

[Mikael]

I'd like to report that BIOS F12 fixes the Memtest errors on the GA-P35-DS3 aswell. I'm currrently running 8GB DDR2-800 4-5-4-15 at 1.95V and the board handles it perfectly. Quite impressive.

[swaaye]

(Did you mean 1.325 BIOS, per your signature?)

The bios setting is 1.40V. At idle, "sensors" (the linux utility for reporting on hardware state) reports the cpu at 1.36V, I believe, although that's a bit of a guess (Its labeled "in0"). Under load it drops to 1.31V. A curious thing vdroop. Although having tested this now, idle is now 1.34V, and 1.31V under load. Perhaps I do have a bit of leeway to tweek the core voltage up a bit.

I would guess that RAM voltage, set to 2.0 in BIOS (+0.2V) is being reported as 1.95V. (labeled as "in1")

I'm never quite sure if things are being reported correctly, though...

I forgot to mention that I have a version 2.0 GA-P35-DS3R MB.

Added later: I've just tried 1.425 V and 9X366=3.3 GHz. That locked up under mprime in a few seconds. Too bad. I wonder if the OEM versions of the Q6600 overclock less than the boxed versions. The former perhaps being intended for computer makers who would not overclock, the latter intended for afficionados.

Board revision of these P35-DS3R's doesn't seem to mean all that much. They all use the same BIOSs even. You get some more USB ports with 2.0 though, instead of serial and parallel. Rev 2.1 has some new power saving tech though so it might be more "different".

And it seems you figured out what I meant by vdroop. My 1.325v in BIOS gives me about 1.23v load volts, which is still below my CPU's rated VID of 1.25v. Ironically, when my board is set to stock settings, my CPU is undervolted by nearly 0.1v.

Of course, you are right about the sensors being off. They are almost certainly not spot on. I don't really feel like trying to use my multimeter on my mobo though. Kinda scary to stick the probes in there and get them on the tiny points people have found to measure vcore.

I'm not sure what to tell you about your chip. It sounds like it is just not going to clock high. Overclocking is a crap shoot and sometimes you end up at the low end of the bell curve...

[RPGWiZaRD]

Are these latest bioses worth testing, I'm still at F5f myself as I found mem performance to be good. Any1 tried comparing memory benchmarks or anything between BIOS versions?

[messerchmidt]

the new bioses still killing ram or no?

[LuckyNV]

anyone have a good tip to clear the CMOS?

I removed the Batt, shorted with jumper, unplugged all power, press pwr button a few times, let it stand for 30 mins...

but the only thing that reset was the clock lol? help please

it has cleared before with above method, but not any more :s

[swaaye]

All I ever do is reset it with the jumper.... And I've only done that once or twice. Otherwise I just load defaults after flashing it (as Gigabyte says to do).

[BTK]

blend

[BTK]

can i get idea of what G(MCH) and fsb volts need to be set it @

[aoch88]

Am I right to say that the BIOS uGuru functions are exactly the same as the IP35 PRO?

[stasio]

P35-DQ6
Just realese officially bios F7C,on giga site.
Btw,just receive new bios P35-DQ6.F7E(build 10/01/2008).For interested link is:
HERE


By stasio
Gigabyte:New utility
@BIOS-Ver 1.22
Easy Tune5 Pro-B7.1212.1
Face Wizard-B7.1212.1
HERE
Some new software last two days:
EVEREST Ultimate Edition 4.20 Build 1254 Beta with key:
HERE
EVEREST Ultimate Edition 4.20 Build 1256 Beta
HERE
Core Temp 0.96.1
HERE

[hlonipha]

P35-DQ6
Just realese officially bios F7C,on giga site.
Btw,just receive new bios P35-DQ6.F7E(build 10/01/2008).For interested link is:
HERE


By stasio
Gigabyte:New utility
@BIOS-Ver 1.22
Easy Tune5 Pro-B7.1212.1
Face Wizard-B7.1212.1
HERE
Some new software last two days:
EVEREST Ultimate Edition 4.20 Build 1254 Beta with key:
HERE
Core Temp 0.96.1
HERE

Have you seen any improvement ?

Could you post your bios settings?
I just got a q6600 L740A630 and can not get it prim95 stable @3.6
I know my ram is good as it is stable at a higher FSB with my E6850. After 30mins or so it reboots the computer. I have not seen anyone with this batch number.

Thanks

[stasio]

hlonipha,what is your q6600 VID.My is 1.31250V and I need 1.5 V in bios for 3.6GHz.
Bios F7e just start to test.
CPU Fan Control-change from(Auto-Intel@QST-Legacy-Disabled) to (Enable-Disable).
Loadline-(Auto-Enable-Disable)
Notice my CPU Fan speed 1800 RPM(800 RPM in F7c)idle

[hlonipha]

hlonipha,what is your q6600 VID.My is 1.31250V and I need 1.5 V in bios for 3.6GHz.
Bios F7e just start to test(Loadline-auto-enable-disable)

Mine is the same 1.31250v I'm running it at 1.48 right now on bios but the vdroop brings it to like1.43-1.44v on windows

What are your other settings
pcie
mch
fsb

another thing is that I see posts around with a +.2 does that means .200 or .02?

[stasio]

By stasio
My Vdrop is 1.49v in windows.
pcie-+0.05
mch-+0.1
fsb-+0.15
+.2 is mean .200

[hlonipha]

ok thanks will try the new bios today with new settings.

Another thing I took my cooling pipes off and cleaned the NB and applied AS5.
My cpu temps drop was 4c

[3r4s3r]

P35-DQ6
Just realese officially bios F7C,on giga site.
Btw,just receive new bios P35-DQ6.F7E(build 10/01/2008

Does it fix the bios reset overclocking on reboot problem ?