The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[CERO]

can u booth with 400x9 on 266 strap? oO

[JohnMike]

can u booth with 400x9 on 266 strap? oO

Yes of course. No problem at all, with the settings that i wrote on my last post.

[ReZ_]

It is NOT about the BRAND, but the compound. And it is more akin to changing your car oil from using mineral oil to synthetic oil, the engine runs cooler therefore you CAN go faster.

he's (iTravis) is hitting +90c at 3.2/3.4ghz... if you think changing thermal paste, any paste you wish, is going to drop his temps 25%... well... you MUST believe stickers will make your car go faster too.

btw, synthetic oil won't make your car run faster, use what's written on your oil cap and you should be pretty close to the max your car can do.
I've tried.
On many cars, different brands too!
Who manufactures cars that require synthetic oil? Guess why! My dealer even discouraged using synthetic in mine! Take another shot!
Off topic!

[CERO]

Yes of course. No problem at all, with the settings that i wrote on my last post.

wow maybe i should try, I tried with 425x9 but coudnt boot with 266 strap, what bios u are using? cheers

[FZ1]

Okay; I'll try disabled/1, but doesn't that mean it's RELAXED by 1? I can POST disabled/0, so isn't that better?

That's promising about your Yorkie. I'm pre-ordered on a Q9450 that I hope to take to 8x470. I was reading a thread where a Q9450 topped-out at 450FSB on X38... hopefully that was just an old BIOS.

Speaking of BIOS, any reason you're still using 0903?

Yes, disabled does mean relaxed and 0 would be better than 1. I'm running 0903 because it works for me. I haven't tried 0907 but my motto is "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

[eSp!s0]

The best settings running 1200/400 FSB Mhz on this board are:

FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Disabled
-Boost Level 0

If you use Strap 333 then you can change Ai Clock Twister: Strong

The best FSB spots on this board, 400 FSB/Strap 266 and 450 FSB/Strap 333

Strong doesn`t work for me with all settings. Perhaps, this are the best settings for you, but that differs from system to system. Of course, it would be very helpful, if it was that easy.
But your post can help people coming closer to their stable settings

[philter]

Does any one know if the ADH header is usable?
If so I asume it 'talks' to the SB, not the Supreme FX?
And does anyone know the pinout functions for this header, I've tried googling it but no joy. I want to see if I can get Digital IN on this board!

[Grnfinger]

how is this possible that you reached 8x450 with such a low NB V, with my quad I need at least 1.61V

450x8 here and my NB runs a cool 1.47V, I see alot of ppl over volting there NB

[JoeBar]

450x8 here and my NB runs a cool 1.47V, I see alot of ppl over volting there NB

Are u talking about prime stable system??

[ZenEffect]

he's (iTravis) is hitting +90c at 3.2/3.4ghz... if you think changing thermal paste, any paste you wish, is going to drop his temps 25%... well... you MUST believe stickers will make your car go faster too.

could be the difference between as5 and elmers non toxic minty tasting paste

[Grnfinger]

Are u talking about prime stable system??

Of course

[JoeBar]

Of course

Then u must have got a very nice X38 chip...


I'm running @ 465x8 (mem @ 1240mhz) and anything lower than 1.72v (real) is a no go for me.
NB is cooled by an MCW30 and temps don't get higher that 39'C under load though.

[iTravis]

Guys, I'm now at 3.4Ghz prime stable for over 10 hours and OCCT stable as well. Core temps are still high but I can see there's a big difference compare to what I had couple days ago (b4 I apply AS 5 and reseat heatsink). They're now 85-85-82-82 at full load and 50-50-48-48 at idle with case temp is 39C and room temp is 51F.
The NB voltage is high though, I got like 58 at full load so I don't know if I should reapply thermal paste for the NB and SB as well.
Anyway, I'm gonna try 3.5 2nite and possibly 3.6, if it's stable then I'm happy with it.

[JohnMike]

wow maybe i should try, I tried with 425x9 but coudnt boot with 266 strap, what bios u are using? cheers

Bios 0903, but it works with other's 0802 and 0907 because i tryed.

Strong doesn`t work for me with all settings. Perhaps, this are the best settings for you, but that differs from system to system. Of course, it would be very helpful, if it was that easy.
But your post can help people coming closer to their stable settings

Did you follow my settings?!... It seems that you have the same Ram as I do, so that shouldn't be a problem. Only diference is the CPU but i don't think that matters for this settings.

Strap 266 (faster timings) generaly end's at or above 400 FSB, from here on you have to use 333 Strap (relax timings) until some where around 450~475 FSB depending on your system.

[Grnfinger]

Bios 0903, but it works with other's 0802 and 0907 because i tryed.



Did you follow my settings?!... It seems that you have the same Ram as I do, so that shouldn't be a problem. Only diference is the CPU but i don't think that matters for this settings.

Strap 266 (faster timings) generaly end's at or above 400 FSB, from here on you have to use 333 Strap (relax timings) until some where around 450~475 FSB depending on your system.

Just tried 400x9 using the 266 strap for 1203 ram
Seems to be working, got prime to run 20 mins b4 BSOD so alittle tweaking and I think I can get the 266 strap stable.
However ram is a tad slower compared to 400 strap @ 450x8

[JohnMike]

Just tried 400x9 using the 266 strap for 1203 ram
Seems to be working, got prime to run 20 mins b4 BSOD so alittle tweaking and I think I can get the 266 strap stable.
However ram is a tad slower compared to 400 strap @ 450x8

Should be because 450 FSB is higher it overtakes the handcup of 333 Strap relaxed timings.
I use Everest (Read Memory/Latency benchs) to test the bandwith performance and helps me choose the best settings regarding memory bandwith.

About the Prime BSOD, you may need a little more voltage on the CPU because at 400 FSB/266 Strap you are at the max potencial of the Strap. Give it a try, it was necessary for me.

But before my QX9650, i had a Q6600 G0 and choosed the same «450 FSB/333 Strap/1200 Ram» as your sig. It's a perfect match with this board having a G0.

[ZenEffect]

one thing i did to this board *i have non se* that helped was adding (zip tying) a 55mm fan to the nb... temps went from 65 *before* to 55 *after* according to temp readings from bios. sure its ugly, but it worked! stupid for me to say something this obvious but nobody else is saying anything like this except 1 person *smart guy* who used a antec spot fan

[Robin77]

Guys, I'm now at 3.4Ghz prime stable for over 10 hours and OCCT stable as well. Core temps are still high but I can see there's a big difference compare to what I had couple days ago (b4 I apply AS 5 and reseat heatsink). They're now 85-85-82-82 at full load and 50-50-48-48 at idle with case temp is 39C and room temp is 51F.
The NB voltage is high though, I got like 58 at full load so I don't know if I should reapply thermal paste for the NB and SB as well.
Anyway, I'm gonna try 3.5 2nite and possibly 3.6, if it's stable then I'm happy with it.

Your NB temp is not high, it's low. Mine is around 75 C loaded and 68 unloaded and is rockstable running prime 95 and 3dmark in loop for 48 hours simultanious. This is a good value compared to Intels official specs for the NB max load temps that I posted a vew pages back (were around 95 C). Just follow the link to Intel X38 thermal guide and don't listen to not qualified statements you read here which tell you over 60 C NB temp will be unstable blabla....
Always go and find out the facts from direct source and go with it than listen to speculations.

[Grnfinger]

Your NB temp is not high, it's low. Mine is around 75 C loaded and 68 unloaded and is rockstable running prime 95 and 3dmark in loop for 48 hours simultanious. This is a good value compared to Intels official specs for the NB max load temps that I posted a vew pages back (were around 95 C). Just follow the link to Intel X38 thermal guide and don't listen to not qualified statements you read here which tell you over 60 C NB temp will be unstable blabla....
Always go and find out the facts from direct source and go with it than listen to speculations.

58c on the NB is LOW? really
I get 45c on full load and 38 idle.
the 60c stability issue was stated as YOU MAY experience stability issues above 60c, it was also mentioned that this statement was taken from Anadantech's review of the board and it was not confirmed

[iTravis]

This is my setting for 3.4Ghz prime and OCCT stable (425x8):

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-850
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : 1.39
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 1.98
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5




I try to move up to 3.6Ghz but fail OCCT after just 1 min, don't know what went wrong since I tried every settings from the members of this forum but still unstable. Any ideas what should I do for 3.6?

[Dostoyevsky77]

What's the word with LOADLINE CALIBRATION? It seems to completely eliminate vDroop on my system... is it bad to leave it ENABLED? I don't see many user BIOS settings in this thread where people have it on.

[eSp!s0]

Then look again, or search the thread, LC was discussed weeks ago. I enable it when ocing cpu and disable it, when not ocing cpu.
Most other guys do, too. But here was a user with problem to get system stable with LC enabled and very low OC. After switching to disable, system became stable.

[bummerboy]

hey guess what, i plug back in the stock heatsink, re-spread thermal paste, change the fan with the one from pentiumD (which spins at 2600-2800 average), and my temp dropped significantly, about 30-32C idling, now gonna test max load and see where it goes up to

update: orthos smallfft load --> 59C max woohooooo

[ChaosAD]

I am going desperate here.No matter the settings i use i can run the pc all day for gaming and internet browsing/downloading. I can run it at 8x425 and 8x440.
But whenever i run Blend test under Prime95 at both speeds i get an error after exactly 47-48 mins.No hung ups,freezes or bsod.Just an error on one of the cores.On the third one almost always.Anyone have any idea?
I havent tried to go any further because of this problem.If anyone had a same issue plz help me out.

[Darkstormz]

I am going desperate here.No matter the settings i use i can run the pc all day for gaming and internet browsing/downloading. I can run it at 8x425 and 8x440.
But whenever i run Blend test under Prime95 at both speeds i get an error after exactly 47-48 mins.No hung ups,freezes or bsod.Just an error on one of the cores.On the third one almost always.Anyone have any idea?
I havent tried to go any further because of this problem.If anyone had a same issue plz help me out.

I had exactly the same issue. P95 error @ 47-49min using Blend test.
I had to up my vcore a few notches. For Small FFT is was stable 450x8 @ 1.32v
But for blend I had to use 1.34v to be able to pass that 47min mark.
Today I tried to disable Loadline Calibration. And now its stable 450x8 Blend @ 1.32v