Quote Originally Posted by JumpingJack View Post
Well, I will probably start working with the Phenom tomorrow. Right now messing around on the 5000+ BE....
I don't know which batch you have and the stock voltage, but IIRC 3.2/3GHz was my first boot at stock volts and mine was limited around 3.55GHz on air. It needed higher volts and was running very hot stock so I backed out, reminds you of the P4 days. HT limit was 396MHz and 370MHz was fully stable. Have you tested your boards HT ref. limit?
Quote Originally Posted by justapost View Post
Is that more or less than the 9500 required for 2530MHz? I browsed over the first pages of the thread and found only 2,4 or 2,6GHz results.
2.55GHz was stock volts/vid stable with 9500. This BE requires more and it also has a higher power consumption/temps because of it.
Must say i did not expect 3GHz with the BE.
I did based on my earlier testing, had they given higher binned cores to us like with the previous FX/BE's instead of reject cores unlocked. These cores are worse than the 9500/9600 on retail around which is not the usual way to sell an enthusiast product.
Same here booted with 235Mhz and tried to lower multis till it was prime stable. Core 2 is my best one, unfortunately i can not define which cores to disable. I can only define the number of cores i want. Does the MSI board allow this?
Do you mean through the BIOS?
No board I've seen yet allows selective core disabling through a released BIOS, have you?
It's one of the options I asked for actually, to allow changing multi of each core within the BIOS.
Had an 9750 here for a day. Did a few benchmarks at 2GHz to comapre it clock for clock with a 2xk10 and 2xk8. As expcted the 9750 won most of em. But the phenom system seems to respond faster, but that's an completely subjective impression i can not proove with numbers.
Yeah for desktop/office functioning, I don't know why this is but because of the memory perf/latency. I've not touched AMD CPU's after K8 since 2006 and switching from a 2 year Intel run on the same day, cloned OS, same GPU/RAM, you can definitely tell the general responsiveness speed difference. Launch some work and you can also tell the performance difference in the same way too though.
I get these core temps on 220x10,5 with the reserator 1p. Guess it's time for an 9700 HSF.
What volts/vids are you using?
Your chip runs hotter than my 9500 but roughly similar to this BE. You're better off getting a Tunic Tower 120 or Thermalright Ultra-120 if you're paying, the price is v.similar and they cool better especially with +1 fan configurations.
In terms of stability or speed?
Performance is real junk with the patch.
AMD NB Power Monitor u mean.
It's called AMD Power Monitor officially
Although the best thing about it and the only thing I use it for is to see NB VID.
The Asus board? What i don't like about Asus is their technical support, I never got any respond from em and they do not even appear in their own web forum.
Same here. Way too much experience in that to bother again even though they have decent products but their prices are also ridiculous for not much or any gain. They also play too many caught-red-handed games with consumers for money. Moto: Release 20 products in each chipset, only actively support the ones that make the news with overclockers first, and enthusiasts second. Everything else is really messed about with. If they had some commanding position of quality which was unmatched, we may have been forced to buy their MBs but not when you have better MBs for cheaper with far better BIOS/support around. That said, some of their P35 boards are excellent value for money.

I actually really wanted to try their 790FX board but there is no point with this chip.

Quote Originally Posted by =[PULSAR]= View Post
have you done any Super PI 1M testing?
With BE, no I haven't. Mainly because I'm testing many BIOSes and they all have the errata patch so any performance benchmark result would be bleak at best.
With the Phenoms before, yes I did.
and have you been able to achieve stable 1200mhz on the memory?
Well, I can't boot/AOD above 220HT without a lockup/reboot, and that's around 586MHz on the RAM, so I don't know if 1200 would be stable or not. I'd give it a shot with the better older BIOSes but they don't run 1066 on RAM, so max I'd get with 220HT is 440MHz using them.

If the NB multi lowering from 9x worked I could've tested 1200 RAM pretty easily. I'll see what I can do, right now it's running a stress test for another 4 hours.