**Official ABIT IP-35 Pro Review/Overclock/Guide Thread**

[Ace-a-Rue]

you should be good unless you want more memory compatibility and penryn acceptance.

[Darth Vader]

Just canceled my DFI order and ordered the IP35 Pro

I have problems with stability at vcore above 1.5v, but i have Q6600. On C2D this problem should not be since consumes much less energy. But if the upgrade to quad is planned, I would look aside DFI with its 8-phases.

[Amigan]

Any word on when Beta 16.B04 will become an 'official' release?

When they fix the bugs i hope ..

CPU Temps are like are way out in relation to core temps. like 15 degrees higher means uGuru can throw a wobble.

I mean my cores are at 36/37/39/41 yet CPU is 55 at idle ...

I've also noticed the board doesnt always power down when the memory straps get changed and needs a power down to use the new settings.

also i'm not sure these memory optimisations have helped me with my 4 x 1GB crucial 10ths .. stuck on 5-5-5-12 @ 1000 @ 1.9v no matter what i do i cant get 4-4-4-12 or even cas4 anything ... perhaps its just these are at limit.

bs0d.

[Spyrus]

With bios 16 beta 04 you could lower that 4-4-4-12 to at least 4-4-4-9 if not 4-4-4-4

[Ace-a-Rue]

I have problems with stability at vcore above 1.5v, but i have Q6600. On C2D this problem should not be since consumes much less energy. But if the upgrade to quad is planned, I would look aside DFI with its 8-phases.

DFI with 8 phases will give the same results as the Pro board, clock for clock...the only difference is the DFI board has literally no vdroop...i set 1.53 in the bios and it overvolts to 1.55 in windows, and, it does have a tiny drop about 0.015v under load...it's a nice board but the Pro is "better" with a mature bios and way less hassle.

the only reason to go DFI or an X38 board is for dual 16x pcie slots working at 16x...it's not going to give any better performance than what the pro can give you overall.

[Ace-a-Rue]

When they fix the bugs i hope ..

CPU Temps are like are way out in relation to core temps. like 15 degrees higher means uGuru can throw a wobble.

I mean my cores are at 36/37/39/41 yet CPU is 55 at idle ...

I've also noticed the board doesnt always power down when the memory straps get changed and needs a power down to use the new settings.

also i'm not sure these memory optimisations have helped me with my 4 x 1GB crucial 10ths .. stuck on 5-5-5-12 @ 1000 @ 1.9v no matter what i do i cant get 4-4-4-12 or even cas4 anything ... perhaps its just these are at limit.

bs0d.

temps are a problem for every P35 and X38 board...abit is NOT the sole mobo maker with this problem.

which bios are you using?

[Darth Vader]

I say not about clocks but about stability. How I tell earlier, if I(not only) set vcore more than 1.5 at any freq - fpu test shut down the PC.

[Ace-a-Rue]

if it shuts down then the cpu is saying, i am to "HOT"!...could be a false signal but the cpu has to initiate the signal to the board.

NOW...if you have it a stock speed and 1.5v or above then something is wrong with the board or it could be the cpu when doing the FPU bench.

[Amigan]

temps are a problem for every P35 and X38 board...abit is NOT the sole mobo maker with this problem.

which bios are you using?

currently on 16.B04 .... pretty sure the temps were much lower on 16.B03

plus i also went from an x3210 (B3) to a q6600 (G0) recently so will have to flash back to be sure.

i can certainly remember the (B3) not reaching these temps and that thing put out alot of heat.

when i get a chance i'll flash to 14 & 16.B03 to compare the temps.

bs0d.

[PossumK]

I had the same temperature issue with 16.B04 vs. 16.B03. Q6600 cooled by a Thermalright Ultima-90 at stock speeds and voltages (everything at auto) showed ~50-55C at idle. I checked the heatsink, reapplied thermal grease, and the temperatures didn't change. Flashed to 16.B03, and idle temps were ~30-33C. I left 16.B03 on so I could monitor temperatures more accurately (hopefully) while overclocking and stressing the CPU.

[Spyrus]

Use coretemp this is accurate do not trust uguru except when it reports same
as coretemp.

[Ace-a-Rue]

currently on 16.B04 .... pretty sure the temps were much lower on 16.B03

plus i also went from an x3210 (B3) to a q6600 (G0) recently so will have to flash back to be sure.

i can certainly remember the (B3) not reaching these temps and that thing put out alot of heat.

when i get a chance i'll flash to 14 & 16.B03 to compare the temps.

bs0d.

the Q6600 is going to put more heat than the 3210...are you using coretemp for temp readings?

[Ace-a-Rue]

I had the same temperature issue with 16.B04 vs. 16.B03. Q6600 cooled by a Thermalright Ultima-90 at stock speeds and voltages (everything at auto) showed ~50-55C at idle. I checked the heatsink, reapplied thermal grease, and the temperatures didn't change. Flashed to 16.B03, and idle temps were ~30-33C. I left 16.B03 on so I could monitor temperatures more accurately (hopefully) while overclocking and stressing the CPU.

your ultima 90 is not hacking it...you really need a TRUE and then lap the surface to get the optimum idle and load temp...what thermal grease are you using?

[Budwise]

how hard is it to undo the bolt mod once you've done it. With the watercooling and all it would be a massive pain in the butt to install it all to verify its working, then pull the board back out to do the mod to then install it again. If i do the mod before i ever install the board is it possible to put it back should i have to send back a faulty board?

[need bb]

Does anyone know if the 45nm Quad-core Xeon are supported?

[Ace-a-Rue]

how hard is it to undo the bolt mod once you've done it. With the watercooling and all it would be a massive pain in the butt to install it all to verify its working, then pull the board back out to do the mod to then install it again. If i do the mod before i ever install the board is it possible to put it back should i have to send back a faulty board?

just keep the the TIM for the NB and PWM and the push pins with the springs...you can then return it to its original state....an alternative is to set the board up on a bench and run it from there before putting it into the case.

[Amigan]

the Q6600 is going to put more heat than the 3210...are you using coretemp for temp readings?

How can u say a Q6600 (G0) puts out more heat than a X3210 (B3) both are quad cores.

Both clocked to around 3.2Ghz ... x3210 needed 1.3250v where as the q6600 needs only 1.21v please tell me how the Q6600 in this case puts out more heat ?


Amigan.

[Ace-a-Rue]

How can u say a Q6600 (G0) puts out more heat than a X3210 (B3) both are quad cores.

Both clocked to around 3.2Ghz ... x3210 needed 1.3250v where as the q6600 needs only 1.21v please tell me how the Q6600 in this case puts out more heat ?


Amigan.

you weren't very specific in your post to tell the reader what mhz you were working at...i had to assume you were working at two different frequencies and therefore, i was thinking the Q6600 was working harder...next time, please, spell it out!

[lefy]

I have three abit IP-35 Pro boards and have tried 27 different memory modules in 4GB configurations with the same results. Anything over DDR2-1000 is a crap shoot for 24/7 operation, there are a few gates (DDR2-1020, DDR2-1063) that seem to work just fine with additional voltage but otherwise this board is picky when it comes to 4x1GB operation when overclocking, especially with the 1333FSB CPUs. This includes four different modules from Crucial. I will not even go into the 2x2GB or 4x2GB issues since a lot boards are still behind the curve. Either I am very unlucky or the test applications I am running just hate 4x1GB on this board.

old quote here - is the 4x2GB 1:1 potential really that bad for this board? looking to oc a Q6600 around 400-450FSB. So, is this still a problem or has it been corrected with a BIOS updated maybe??

any others running 8GB with decent overclocks?

[Knight]

I have three abit IP-35 Pro boards and have tried 27 different memory modules in 4GB configurations with the same results. Anything over DDR2-1000 is a crap shoot for 24/7 operation, there are a few gates (DDR2-1020, DDR2-1063) that seem to work just fine with additional voltage but otherwise this board is picky when it comes to 4x1GB operation when overclocking, especially with the 1333FSB CPUs. This includes four different modules from Crucial. I will not even go into the 2x2GB or 4x2GB issues since a lot boards are still behind the curve. Either I am very unlucky or the test applications I am running just hate 4x1GB on this board.

Wow... You took the words out of my mouth. My memory don't do well over DDR2-1020 without a very steep increase in juice to the memory controller and the memory itself. 4x1GB configuration.

[PossumK]

your ultima 90 is not hacking it...you really need a TRUE and then lap the surface to get the optimum idle and load temp...what thermal grease are you using?

I used the grease that came with the Thermalright heatsink. I had some Geil copper stuff, but read mixed reviews on it.

With my CPU at 3.402 (4x378) and uGuru showing vcore at 1.39V while Prime95 is running the small FFT test, my core temperatures shown by Core Temp are at 66C. PWM temp is at 72C with your heatsink bolt mod and some decent fans directed at the northbridge and pwm heatsinks. How high are others with the Ultima-90 overclocking and at what vcore? I may take the time to lap the heatsink if I want to try pushing the CPU higher.

I did run at 3.6 (4x900) with a pretty high vcore, passing wPrime and 16 hours of Prime95 without problems, but the core temps were probably very high. I only saw about 65C in uGuru and wasn't using Core Temp at that time.

[godsfist]

Are there other revisions of the IP35 Pro?

Does it have 3:4 dividers yet?

[JoeBar]

i'd bet you have a four leaf clover in your pocket.

Believe me, i'm not considered as a lucky person...

how hard is it to undo the bolt mod once you've done it. With the watercooling and all it would be a massive pain in the butt to install it all to verify its working, then pull the board back out to do the mod to then install it again. If i do the mod before i ever install the board is it possible to put it back should i have to send back a faulty board?

I believe it 's pretty easy to revert back. U can alternatively leave it as it is and place a fan on pwm heatsink.

[karl_eller]

So how does this board go for clocking Q6600's? Especially the B3 stepping? I'm looking around for a new motherboard, and this is one that's been recommended by a couple of people. However I'm a bit worried that the 4-phase power might hold it back when it comes to something that's going to want as much voltage as a Q6600 B3.

Oh, if it helps, I'm currently running 4x 1Gb 667MHz RAM sticks, but will soon be upgrading to 2x 2Gb 800MHz RAM sticks.

Eller

[MADMAX22]

Well I got the 3220 B3 stepping and did the volt mod for the vdroop on this board. I got a max of like 490 fsb and a good oc of 3.4ghz water with like 1.43vcore.

Nothing special but it works (still playing) http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=229356