Intel's 45nm Prices & Performance

[Robilar]

I called them back today to pre-order and the rep told me that they were sold out of their last shipment and put me on the next received order list?

I guess he was a bit confused.

[adamsleath]

even e8300 should rock 8.5 multi cant wait to see some.
but only 10 bucks more for e8400?
something very odd about the pricing.

[_g0]

Anyone know why HL2 always gets the biggest boost?

Source engine games are less demanding on the graphics card than most current games. They scale better with CPU bumps because the graphics card isn't as much of a factor. Yes, I did just pull that out of my @$$, but I still think it's true.

When I moved from a 7600GT 256MB to an 8800GT 512MB, the difference in the Orange Box performance was not really noticeable. You really have to hand it to ValvE for making games that run well even if you can't afford the latest hardware.

[Donnie27]

Source engine games are less demanding on the graphics card than most current games. They scale better with CPU bumps because the graphics card isn't as much of a factor. Yes, I did just pull that out of my @$$, but I still think it's true.

When I moved from a 7600GT 256MB to an 8800GT 512MB, the difference in the Orange Box performance was not really noticeable. You really have to hand it to ValvE for making games that run well even if you can't afford the latest hardware.

Yepp! I noticed this as well on ATI cards. I went from an X1800 256MB to a 3870 512MB and Halflife 2 didn't seem much faster as almost all of my others Games exept Crysis.

[savantu]

According to Charlie Intel has some issues with the 45nm process ramp up.

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...irl-intel-45nm

To cut it short , he's saying : there might be problems with the 45nm process , there might be not.If there are , I've told you so , if they aren't I've told you so too.
Talk about quality journalism.

AFAIK Intel started shipping 45nm parts for revenue in Q3 ( September ) they were launched mid November ( servers and XE ).
FAB32 went online in early December with 1st lot having mature yiedls ( copy exactly method ).

Could there be problems with 45nm process ? Could be , but I seriously doubt it.

[Hornet331]

dont really know if there are problems but retail availability of the

E5420
E5430
E5440

is quite good. only the lower speed and the higher speeds are still mia.

[Donnie27]

According to Charlie Intel has some issues with the 45nm process ramp up.

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...irl-intel-45nm

To cut it short , he's saying : there might be problems with the 45nm process , there might be not.If there are , I've told you so , if they aren't I've told you so too.
Talk about quality journalism.

AFAIK Intel started shipping 45nm parts for revenue in Q3 ( September ) they were launched mid November ( servers and XE ).
FAB32 went online in early December with 1st lot having mature yiedls ( copy exactly method ).

Could there be problems with 45nm process ? Could be , but I seriously doubt it.

IIRC, its called "Scattershot Reporting". For those not familier, it refers to a Scattershot shotgun with a wide burst pattern. These are used in hunting small but fast prey where only a few pellets are needed to kill the animal. The weapon doesn't have to be aimmed very accurately to be assured a kill.

So then when one of the many statements "scattershot" are correct, they can say see, we were right!

[Zytek_Fan]

According to Charlie Intel has some issues with the 45nm process ramp up.

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...irl-intel-45nm

To cut it short , he's saying : there might be problems with the 45nm process , there might be not.If there are , I've told you so , if they aren't I've told you so too.
Talk about quality journalism.

AFAIK Intel started shipping 45nm parts for revenue in Q3 ( September ) they were launched mid November ( servers and XE ).
FAB32 went online in early December with 1st lot having mature yiedls ( copy exactly method ).

Could there be problems with 45nm process ? Could be , but I seriously doubt it.

There's a slight problem with the current shipping 45nm CPUs SUPPOSEDLY, but it's not anything to really stress about if you have one.

[Donnie27]

There's a slight problem with the current shipping 45nm CPUs SUPPOSEDLY, but it's not anything to really stress about if you have one.

There is no slight problem IMHO, sure I can't say fact. All processors have errata and this obscure one is being used as an excuse for Intel to sell off old stock and stockpile the new stuff. Wanna bet if Phenom was phenomenal that we'd be already seeing Penryn? BTW, Intel is claiming a "FSB Bus integraty problem". Let's see, that's 1333MHz while Xeons aren't having problems at 1600MHz with same processor, ummmm, strange.

Look, if Penryn ships at Current projected prices and or MSRP's, Intel or its partners can't get better money for current products. You guys think E6600 will still cost $234 or Q6600 $279 in March-08?

[royhar]

any more information ?

[generalpetres]

all i know is i want the release date for the penryns so i can schedual the appointment for the surgeon to remove one of my kidneys and sell it for some money.

[Donnie27]

all i know is i want the release date for the penryns so i can schedual the appointment for the surgeon to remove one of my kidneys and sell it for some money.

LOL!

[Xvys]

I frankly doubt the latest "news" about the wolfdale's being delayed until Feb, along with a new E8300 cpu being released. The E8200 is scheduled to be $163 and the E8400 $183, but now stories are coming out about a E8300? That makes no sense. I think this is a hoax, and there will be no such processor being sold.

[jimmsch]

Daddy, I want an E8500...I want one now. I never really cared for oompa loompas.

[WSX]

well the published release date for Wolfdales of Jan 20th 2008 is only a few weeks away, and Intel have said nothing about them being delayed so far, so fingers crossed.

[***Deimos***]

delays supposedly to fix fsb issues.
odd low clocks of these chips considering low heat.
hmmm

me thinks perhaps Intel might consider higher Ghz, and what the hell throw in 400fsb too. ie:

E8200 6 2.4Ghz
E8400 7 2.8Ghz
E8600 8 3.2Ghz
E8800 9 3.6Ghz

just daydreaming..

(most "current" Quad cores only make 430-450, so I'm guessing that's what's holding up the almighty switch to 400fsb, which IMHO would be disaster for overclocking headroom, but give Intel more marketing mumbo jumbo)

[gdogg]

I'm disappointed with prices, and max of 8.5X divider if I don't go qx for the quads.

Honestly, their is not 1 45nm process that I'll be able to get past 3.6Ghz in a reasonable price range. Now with 8.5 being $150 more then 8.0, there is no reason to leave a q6600, the q6600 is the winner for overclockers.

Unless these can do 500 fsb easily, but I highly doubt that.

[Donnie27]

I'm disappointed with prices, and max of 8.5X divider if I don't go qx for the quads.

Honestly, their is not 1 45nm process that I'll be able to get past 3.6Ghz in a reasonable price range. Now with 8.5 being $150 more then 8.0, there is no reason to leave a q6600, the q6600 is the winner for overclockers.

Unless these can do 500 fsb easily, but I highly doubt that.

But what if you skipped Q6600 to wait on this bad boy! Let's not forget, 3.6GHz for Penryn will still be very Kick-A$$

[gdogg]

But what if you skipped Q6600 to wait on this bad boy! Let's not forget, 3.6GHz for Penryn will still be very Kick-A$$

Very true, but I would pick q6600 over a 8x penryn since with a maximus, (not sure how 45nm fsb is doing atm) and my q6600 over 450FSB is problematic and requires insane nb voltages , 470 1.75 NB isn't even stable ... , pll and fsb voltage won't help either.

But it would def be a hard choice. I'm gonna keep hoping for a 9X model in $500 price range to appear.

[Donnie27]

Very true, but I would pick q6600 over a 8x penryn since with a maximus, (not sure how 45nm fsb is doing atm) and my q6600 over 450FSB is problematic and requires insane nb voltages , 470 1.75 NB isn't even stable ... , pll and fsb voltage won't help either.

But it would def be a hard choice. I'm gonna keep hoping for a 9X model in $500 price range to appear.

Sure, but that's for Drag racers here. Many of us rather just watch the Extreme Guys do it. I don't have water like many here and just depend on a Ninja to do its Best. I don't see myself doing much with a Quad Core but might go that way anyway. I know I want at least 3.1GHz model only overclocking to 3.6GHz is fine for me. I'll still look for others to overclock it to the teeth and cheer them on as they do so. Just because I like NASCAR doesn't mean I want to get out on the track and pretend to be Johnson or Gordon

[Donnie27]

Then again, maybe the 8400 for about $200 would be better.

[smee]

When are the dual cores expected to be release?
If it was already stated in this thread Im sorry, I didn't have the time to read through it all.

I'm waiting for the prices to drop on the current core 2 duo's so I can get one for my new build.

[trans am]

They are already out in new zealand.
in us maybe by next week

[WSX]

pre-order prices in Germany ...

E8500 = € 242

E8400 = € 170

http://www.hardwareschotte.de/hardwa...0+BX80570E8500

[RPGWiZaRD]

Yea the prices remind me of G0 launch where E8500 = E6850, E6750 = E8400 and E8200 = E6550 in price but now you get a higher multi for same price + greater overclockability & lower power consumption.