The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[FZ1]

There's a new version? There has always been a non-SE version. I guess you can't have a special edition if you don't have a regular edition

[Leeghoofd]

Hey guys, I see there is a new version of Maximus Formula non se. Anyone have any experience with how well the new NB/SB/PWM heatsink works, or would it be recommended to remove and replace them with aftermarket pieces.

Also I should probally be noted that the mobo would be powering a overclocked X3210 that is watercooled, so there wont be much airflow around the mobo.

you got a link on that new version ?

[iadstudio]

testing 1.66 PLL
then 1.68 to see if there is any benifit in going to 1.70

When I get home I'll test my pll voltage as well. I wen up to 1.66 and experienced increased stability, but not quite what I wanted. I'll test at 1.65v-core with 1.68-7v pll.

It might help if we could determine what other boards push for the cpu pll, especially ones without this as a bios option; and detmine whether or not this is unique to the maximus.

[eSp!s0]

To show RAM amount. Do they show correctly or is is just CPUZ?

I am not the guy with this problem. After using my new ram, the problem with cpu-z is gone.
But before with my old ram, I could see this mistake in the amount a few times. The system was prime and memtest stable but the ram wasn`t running that good, only 1000mhz with 2gb 8500.
Perhaps there is a relation btween this mistake from cpu-z and bad running ram/ram that doesn`t run specs or it`s just a mistake of cpu-z, would be interesting to know.

[itznfb]

I think it is. Although some people are reporting 100% stability, most (at least the novice OC'rs) are reporting some sort of quirkiness on this board even after a lot of work on it. I'm selling my 4gb of RAM and either going to pick up a 2x2gb kit or a 2 x 1gb kit of those Ballistic 8500. I think my RAM at least plays a pert in my OC woes.

Anybody tried these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227277

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820144110

2x2gb kits on this board?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231145
^^+MFSE = 4gb 1000mhz goodness

[sonofander]

I am not the guy with this problem. After using my new ram, the problem with cpu-z is gone.
But before with my old ram, I could see this mistake in the amount a few times. The system was prime and memtest stable but the ram wasn`t running that good, only 1000mhz with 2gb 8500.
Perhaps there is a relation btween this mistake from cpu-z and bad running ram/ram that doesn`t run specs or it`s just a mistake of cpu-z, would be interesting to know.

I'm running crucial 8500... Pretty good stuff afaik. 4x1 gig sticks running at
1215 2.1v atm, 456 fsb

And the quirky readings from CPU Z are happening just about every time I boot up, ranging from showing 3 gigs to 60 gigs!!! LOL

[FZ1]

I am not the guy with this problem.

Doh! Sorry dude. Should be directed at sonofander.

[iadstudio]

well, I'm troubleshooting before I RMA this board, but the last maximus I had wasn't nearly this tough to get stable. What are the acceptable ranges for the PSU before it causes problems? Here are my OCCT curves.

Also, can anyone else suggest any tests I can run to figure out where my board is failing? My RAM and CPU are both testing stable and the voltage on them is as straight as can be.

[FZ1]

Your PSU #'s look fine. PCP&C PSU's are great.
Have you tried running on a 1:1 divider and relaxing your timings to rule out RAM instability?

[iadstudio]

Your PSU #'s look fine. PCP&C PSU's are great.
Have you tried running on a 1:1 divider and relaxing your timings to rule out RAM instability?

Yep. One set at a time, first at 333 then at 266. Funny, the system bahaves almost exactly the same as when I have it clocked to 3.6 @ 400fsb. I'm going to test the cpu overnight again and if it passes as I expect it will, this board is coming out. I really wish newegg would give me a refund so I could just get something else. I must be doomed to fail with every maximus I touch! There are absolutely NO settings I can find at any speed that will give me stability. This sucks! I'm soooo done with this board, it broke me.

Edit: I'm actually having second thoughts now. Should I order another maximus? or move on? I liked this board so much in theory, but I got 2 defective boards in a row.

[pushook]

anyone else this problem. I run my sys @ 460x8 with 1.7CPU PLL in the bios setting. But in hardware monitoring in bios it shows crazy "1.875" CPU PLL. Is that normal???? Bios is 0907.

[Leeghoofd]

Edit: I'm actually having second thoughts now. Should I order another maximus? or move on? I liked this board so much in theory, but I got 2 defective boards in a row.

I think you are completely in the wrong direction with ya settings mate, also your CPU needs way too much Vcore to be stable at 3.6Ghz so I think it just prefers a lower clock in general... you are adapting Quad settings for ya E6700 and more voltage isn't always better, my E6850 didn't like it on my 680i ( CPU VTT ) and needed to be way lower then what I used for my quad on that board...

Just reflash the bios, reset all to defaults and start from zero, try first with 2 dimms, disable transaction booster and static read and then continue ... and build up slowly...

[Leeghoofd]

anyone else this problem. I run my sys @ 460x8 with 1.7CPU PLL in the bios setting. But in hardware monitoring in bios it shows crazy "1.875" CPU PLL. Is that normal???? Bios is 0907.

What happens if you try eg 1.6 does it give 1.75 then ? I cannot test the Maximus as I 'm modding it's case to be hooked up to a WC...

[pushook]

What happens if you try eg 1.6 does it give 1.75 then ? I cannot test the Maximus as I 'm modding it's case to be hooked up to a WC...

thx for the help. you are right. 1.58 in the bios gives me 1.7 real on monitoring.

I´m a bit unhappy with my CPU. Can´t get over 460x8 or 430x9. Still reboots whatever I change no sucess. Raised vcore from 1.4375 up to 1.51vcore step by step still reboot after stressing the CPU.

Is this the max for the CPU??

[eSp!s0]

thx for the help. you are right. 1.58 in the bios gives me 1.7 real on monitoring.

I´m a bit unhappy with my CPU. Can´t get over 460x8 or 430x9. Still reboots whatever I change no sucess. Raised vcore from 1.4375 up to 1.51vcore step by step still reboot after stressing the CPU.

Is this the max for the CPU??

Hiho,
wie schon in nem anderen Forum gesagt : Stell sie einfach niedriger, wenn die so stark übervoltet und teste, ob es stabil ist.

[sonofander]

wir nicht sprechen sie Deutch here...

[Warboy]

Hiho,
wie schon in nem anderen Forum gesagt : Stell sie einfach niedriger, wenn die so stark übervoltet und teste, ob es stabil ist.

wut?

[FZ1]

Hiho,
wie schon in nem anderen Forum gesagt : Stell sie einfach niedriger, wenn die so stark übervoltet und teste, ob es stabil ist.

Babelfish says:
Hiho, as already in nem other forum said: Place it simply lower, if so strongly it uebervoltet and test whether it is stable.

[eSp!s0]

Babelfish says:
Hiho, as already in nem other forum said: Place it simply lower, if so strongly it uebervoltet and test whether it is stable.

nice denglish
A bit cleaner: "As already said in another forum(forumdeluxx): Set VFSB lower if you know that it is overvolting strong and test it for stability."

Yes, I know that you don`t speak german, but I know pushook from forumdeluxx.de and I knwo that he speaks german very well, better than english I think. And as the answer was only for him, I wrote it in german.
That`s a lot easier for me. My english posts aren`t that great

[FZ1]

My english posts aren`t that great

You seem to be doing ok I took German in school many years ago. All I can remember is how to count to 20.
My wife and I plan on going there in '09 to take delivery on a BMW so I guess I'd better brush up!

[eSp!s0]

But english is much easier than german, believe me

[Robin77]

Hi!

I bought the Maximus Formula SE and fired it up with a C2D 6850.
So here are my problems I've:

- I can only leave the Vcore setting on auto (or set it manually to a value 1,325 or less). All values above will lead to no boot. The auto value sets it to 1,325 (BIOS and CPUZ show this value)

- My NB temp is even idle at around 57 C and at full load even around 65C+.

I use default coolings (no watercooling installed) on NB. I've no problem with CPU temp. I use the Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme with a Scythe S-FLEX 1200, 120x120x25mm cooler. I also use 2 casecoolers (both 120 mm) and only top quality components (Enermax Infinity 650 Power supply, Corsair RAM, ...).


Concerned with my NB temp I searched Intel page for X38 specs. The official Intel NB max temp is over 90 C, so my temp is fine and I've no probs with stability (ran all kinds of tests over 48 hours with CPU overclocked 435x8 setting)
So I wonder how u guys get NB temps about 45 C loaded and all talk about unstability with temps over 50 C. T%his isn't true, as my example and official Intel document proves.

Even without OCing my NB temp is in Idle far above 50C, and this in a well cooled room and 100% stable running....
someone confirms this NB temps and also have this strange behavier with only auto set vcore working?

[Warboy]

Hi!

I bought the Maximus Formula SE and fired it up with a C2D 6850.
So here are my problems I've:

- I can only leave the Vcore setting on auto (or set it manually to a value 1,325 or less). All values above will lead to no boot. The auto value sets it to 1,325 (BIOS and CPUZ show this value)

- My NB temp is even idle at around 57 C and at full load even around 65C+.

I use default coolings (no watercooling installed) on NB. I've no problem with CPU temp. I use the Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme with a Scythe S-FLEX 1200, 120x120x25mm cooler. I also use 2 casecoolers (both 120 mm) and only top quality components (Enermax Infinity 650 Power supply, Corsair RAM, ...).


Concerned with my NB temp I searched Intel page for X38 specs. The official Intel NB max temp is over 90 C, so my temp is fine and I've no probs with stability (ran all kinds of tests over 48 hours with CPU overclocked 435x8 setting)
So I wonder how u guys get NB temps about 45 C loaded and all talk about unstability with temps over 50 C. T%his isn't true, as my example and official Intel document proves.

Even without OCing my NB temp is in Idle far above 50C, and this in a well cooled room and 100% stable running....
someone confirms this NB temps and also have this strange behavier with only auto set vcore working?

You do know that "double" posting isn't right, You posted these same post in the other maximus thread. You don't need to, The Maximus helpers are in both.

Anyways, Try Upgrading the bios first.

[Exentler]

my system is now 10h orthos blend stable and 12h small FFT stable, but the system freze somtimes and I must push the reset button :S

somone who i have a idea for what i should do?

[sonofander]

This board is awesome! can you guys believe I'm running 18 gigs of ram at 1200???