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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX View Post
    To further, does anyone have problems sometimes on reboot still getting the "DET DRAM" POST error, or sometimes after the post reset double boot, the board will reboot 1 more time and you hear like a cap discharging then you gotta dump value ram into a DIMM?
    I had this exact issue ALOT when I was finding my OC, What I found for me to be the answer was to use the 400 strap and clock my memory on that strap. Worked 100% for me, and now run my ram @ DDR1130 @ 5.5.5.8 FSB @ 424 with my G0 6600
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    where is the maximus loading screen after updated to bios 0907?

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    Still there!?

    If you haven`t disabled it in bios....


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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX View Post
    Just set CPU PLL to 1.5-1.6v, also set CPU GLT Ref - .63x and NB ref .67x and try it then.
    I'll try that. I did have the cpu pll set to 1.5ish and I saw somewhere that auto might stabalize it but I never messed with the GLT settings.

    Is there somewhere where I can get a definition of what all these voltage settings are? I'm sure the engineers in the house know this stuff, but I'm guessing this board needs most if not all of it's voltage settings hard set in order to be stable at high OCs and I really don't know what these settings do.

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    agreed

    On my P35 my Quad runs 4 GHZ and on my X38, as soon as the load starts, boom bluescreen, its not as stable as the P35, my finding..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fornowagain View Post
    Just playing with the board. Primed at 450x8 without much effort.



    Can't for the life of me get it to bench at 4GHz (445x9), instant restarts as soon as the load starts, regardless of any voltages set. Tried 401, 602 & 903. Its not the cpu, put the same one back in my IP35 Pro and it'll bench all day at 4GHz 1.6v. I have a feeling its something to do with GTL settings. Setting 70% on my Abit made it stable, cant set past 67% on the maximus. Any ideas? Tried all the user configs, didnt help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eSp!s0 View Post
    Still there!?

    If you haven`t disabled it in bios....
    i din set anything regarding disable the maximus logo loading screen at bios...i update to 0907 then just dosent have it anymore...anyway where can i find d option in bios?

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    If you don't see it it might have been removed, is that an issue ? Will flash next week or so to 907 if I get more end user reviews...
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    No, I saw it after flashing to 0907, I`m sure.
    Option can be enabled or disabled in "Boot Configuration" and the setting would be called "Silent Boot" directly translated from german.


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    Quote Originally Posted by *TLC* View Post
    On my P35 my Quad runs 4 GHZ and on my X38, as soon as the load starts, boom bluescreen, its not as stable as the P35, my finding..

    Greetz
    At least I'm not the only one. On my P35 I get instant restarts if I set GTL to 0.63 or less like the best the Formula can do. On the P35 if I set GTL to 0.70 it'll prime just fine at 1.63v.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeghoofd View Post
    If you don't see it it might have been removed, is that an issue ? Will flash next week or so to 907 if I get more end user reviews...
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    Has anyone had a major problem getting this to post, I have a cmos error every boot and the only way it will go further is if I hit F2 to load defaults,(with a preloaded drive it will boot to OS and run fine.) if I hit F1 and load setups defaults and save,exit or make any other changes it still has a cmos error. the lcd post screen always says EN SETUP. I have tried moving the ram around, using only one stick, raising voltage to 2.0 and 2.1 and nothing, I need some help or a kick in the right direction been playing with this thing for a few days.

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    My first post :-)

    Just got an Asus Maximus Board and an Intel Core Duo Extreme QX9770 (3.2GHz at 1600FSB). And yes, the board does support 1600FSB.

    The problem is that I only have 4GB 667MHz (with heatsink, 4-4-4-12) Team Elite RAM. At default setting the board automatically overclocks the RAM to 800MHz cause it sets the FSB to 400MHz to achieve 1600MHz.

    I have tried lowering the FSB (which also lowers the CPU speed because I didn't adjust the ratio). I have tried 200, 266, 333 and 400 but nothing works.

    I will be able to boot to Vista but when I run Super PI or MemTest I get an error.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motobuddy View Post
    Has anyone had a major problem getting this to post, I have a cmos error every boot and the only way it will go further is if I hit F2 to load defaults,(with a preloaded drive it will boot to OS and run fine.) if I hit F1 and load setups defaults and save,exit or make any other changes it still has a cmos error. the lcd post screen always says EN SETUP. I have tried moving the ram around, using only one stick, raising voltage to 2.0 and 2.1 and nothing, I need some help or a kick in the right direction been playing with this thing for a few days.

    asus maximus formula se bios 903
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    Get a new CPU

    Quote Originally Posted by atomica View Post
    My first post :-)

    Just got an Asus Maximus Board and an Intel Core Duo Extreme QX9770 (3.2GHz at 1600FSB). And yes, the board does support 1600FSB.

    The problem is that I only have 4GB 667MHz (with heatsink, 4-4-4-12) Team Elite RAM. At default setting the board automatically overclocks the RAM to 800MHz cause it sets the FSB to 400MHz to achieve 1600MHz.

    I have tried lowering the FSB (which also lowers the CPU speed because I didn't adjust the ratio). I have tried 200, 266, 333 and 400 but nothing works.

    I will be able to boot to Vista but when I run Super PI or MemTest I get an error.
    Get some new RAM.


    But seriously Motobuddy, with that chip I'm guessign it's a fsb and/or voltage problem. Don't use auto for either. hard set them to your chips specs and try that. Also, a question like that could be more easily answered if you posted your bios settings using the provided template.

    And atomica. You probably need new RAM. If your RAM can't OC to 800, there's little you can do or should with that chip. Besides, what are you doing with that chip and RAM that slow? Get some new RAM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iadstudio View Post
    Get a new CPU



    Get some new RAM.


    But seriously Motobuddy, with that chip I'm guessign it's a fsb and/or voltage problem. Don't use auto for either. hard set them to your chips specs and try that. Also, a question like that could be more easily answered if you posted your bios settings using the provided template.

    And atomica. You probably need new RAM. If your RAM can't OC to 800, there's little you can do or should with that chip. Besides, what are you doing with that chip and RAM that slow? Get some new RAM.

    Already placed order and just waiting for Crucial Ballistix 8500 to arrive but am still curious what went wrong and hoping to learn from the experience. Or worse, the mobo could be faulty.

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    just to share with u guys... i was testing my ram with Transition Booster Enable (0), when using the top 3 memory dividers, i m getting a lot of error or cold boot, when i tried the 4th memory divider i forgot the ratio (3:4 or 4:5), i dont have any cold boot issue anymore....i tested my ram for about 2 hrs without any coldboot, it got me ddr1150 4-4-4-10-4 with PL 6 shown in memset, using the top 3 dividers, i wont be able to reach DDR800 with Transition Booster set to Enable(0), i believe this is due to the tight PL. Dont know if u guys experienced this or already know about this, i m suspecting that this mobo has issue with my ram. Plz respond if u have the same issue, thanks

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    I've just "upgraded" from 802 to 907. Found out the hard way that saved settings from 802 don't work in 907. Oh and yea, you can't back flash from 907 to 802. tried everything down to AFUDOS, no luck. Says bios is older version, end of story...

    But would someone please please please tell me why I cant get this board to run at 1T command rate???

    I'm at fsb = 404, mult=10 transaction booster disabled (0), (only way it will boot), static read control disabled. 4-4-4-10 which is real conservative at these settings. memory passes all memtest86 tests, but cpuz still reads 2T command rate (set to 1T in bios). Setting to 2T or auto in bios gives identical bandwidths in everest and sandra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sup3rfly View Post
    just to share with u guys... i was testing my ram with Transition Booster Enable (0), when using the top 3 memory dividers, i m getting a lot of error or cold boot, when i tried the 4th memory divider i forgot the ratio (3:4 or 4:5), i dont have any cold boot issue anymore....i tested my ram for about 2 hrs without any coldboot, it got me ddr1150 4-4-4-10-4 with PL 6 shown in memset, using the top 3 dividers, i wont be able to reach DDR800 with Transition Booster set to Enable(0), i believe this is due to the tight PL. Dont know if u guys experienced this or already know about this, i m suspecting that this mobo has issue with my ram. Plz respond if u have the same issue, thanks
    I suspect the same or some other related issue with my RAM but I haven't done enought testing to narow it down.

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    may i know what is the most stable divider, pls?
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    Hey all, great thread. I just got a new setup (see sig) and im dying to overclock my q6600. It idles about 25C with the stock cooler at 100%. It's Go stepping aswell. However i'd just like to know how often these cpu's fail for no apparant reason (i.e not my fault.) Am I taking any real risk of being left out of pocket if i void the warranty? Also im having problems setting my BIOS to boot my ram at pc2-8500. I tried changing the default setting from auto up to the desired level in the bios and sometimes it boots and works fine for hours (once it gets past boot) but half the time it locks up and wont get past the 'Gamers Republic' splash screen. Am i going to need to adjust the FSB or something in order to get this RAM to run stable at his rated speed? Also I can't see any settings to increase the voltage on the RAM or is this automatic? This is all happening on a maximus formula btw. Im on a septemberish bios revision i think.

    Thanks in advance for any help you guys can offer. (Self confessed noob, particularly in the OC department)
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    Quote Originally Posted by phaze View Post
    Hey all, great thread. I just got a new setup (see sig) and im dying to overclock my q6600. It idles about 25C with the stock cooler at 100%. It's Go stepping aswell. However i'd just like to know how often these cpu's fail for no apparant reason (i.e not my fault.) Am I taking any real risk of being left out of pocket if i void the warranty? Also im having problems setting my BIOS to boot my ram at pc2-8500. I tried changing the default setting from auto up to the desired level in the bios and sometimes it boots and works fine for hours (once it gets past boot) but half the time it locks up and wont get past the 'Gamers Republic' splash screen. This is all happening on a maximus formula btw. Im on a septemberish bios revision i think.

    Thanks in advance for any help you guys can offer.

    1. Update to BIOS 0903 or 0907

    2. Do you have the LCD Poster hooked up? I'll bet it's hanging on DET DRAM.

    3. Up your RAM volts. The board defaults to 1.8-1.9. PC2 8500 usually needs 2.0 minimum to boot right.

    4. CPUs (especially these new Intels) don't just randomly fail for no reason. It's very rare to have a chip just "die".

    5. You can disable the splash screen (ROG logo) in the BIOS so you can see where it's hanging, but the LCD poster is better for seeing what the issue is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phaze View Post
    Hey all, great thread. I just got a new setup (see sig) and im dying to overclock my q6600. It idles about 25C with the stock cooler at 100%. It's Go stepping aswell. However i'd just like to know how often these cpu's fail for no apparant reason (i.e not my fault.) Am I taking any real risk of being left out of pocket if i void the warranty? Also im having problems setting my BIOS to boot my ram at pc2-8500. I tried changing the default setting from auto up to the desired level in the bios and sometimes it boots and works fine for hours (once it gets past boot) but half the time it locks up and wont get past the 'Gamers Republic' splash screen. Am i going to need to adjust the FSB or something in order to get this RAM to run stable at his rated speed? Also I can't see any settings to increase the voltage on the RAM or is this automatic? This is all happening on a maximus formula btw. Im on a septemberish bios revision i think.

    Thanks in advance for any help you guys can offer. (Self confessed noob, particularly in the OC department)

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    Well i have found 907 to be the best one yet, i could not get stable on 400 fsb no matter what votages i used before, now i can get stable on 412x9 with only around 1.47 vcore and it just want to keep going, but my idle temps are around 35c and 52c after playing games, which means that the cores are at aroung 71-72 degress which im a bit worried about, i think im gonna lap the proccessor to see if it makes a difference
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    Hey thanks for the voltage advice. Seems to have worked. I set it to 2.2v (thanks to atomica for help on finding the setting) which i believe is the rated voltage for these modules. I'd just like someone to take a gander at my cpuz memory readings just to see if all looks well. The rated timings for these sticks are 5-5-5-15, i havent touched the timings in bios yet however. I did update the bios to 0907 as advised.



    Is having them in slot 1 and 3 the wrong thing to do?

    Thanks again for the fast responses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phaze View Post
    Hey thanks for the voltage advice. Seems to have worked. I set it to 2.2v (thanks to atomica for help on finding the setting)
    Thanks again for the fast responses.
    Plz try 2.1 volts as the board overvolts the ram slots, setting 2.1 will give you about 2.2 volts... don't want ya too waste ya dimms and yeah you can change TRAS from 18 to 15 mate no worries there
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    Thanks for that advice I set the volts to 2.1 seems fine. I set the timings to
    5-5-5-15 and all seems good

    Any advice as to other bios settings i can do to increase performance before overclocking and voiding warranties? (Pretty much everything is at defaults except whats been mentioned so far.)
    Last edited by phaze; 12-21-2007 at 08:53 AM.
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