Lets talk breaking the HTT 230 limit on k10 here

[Tony]

2.6G NB (with 1.5V CPU NB VID) - aircooled

Sami

hammerhead will not have this issue, the sbios is working as it should, the issue seems to be with the last 2 sbios builds out of Award have had the issue, so all your partner boards are not working as they should do it seems.

I spoke with john, he agrees with me that i'm seeing issues that i should not be, so there is something not quite right.

[Boschwanza]

2.6G NB (with 1.5V CPU NB VID) - aircooled

That looks much better ! Can you run some other benches ?

[KeZzZu]

KTE : i cant boot at all at 11x220 and nb on 9x ht prolly 5x mode i think :S
any tips how to get further? 11x215 runs fine

[macci]

That looks much better ! Can you run some other benches ?

I posted the 3DMark05 score with Single GFX card - HERE

(that one was with slightly lower NB / MEM clocks though: 3G / 2.5G / 2.5G / 500)

[Boschwanza]

I posted the 3DMark05 score with Single GFX card - HERE

(that one was with slightly lower NB / MEM clocks though: 3G / 2.5G / 2.5G / 500)

What about 3dMark06 ? Cinebench 9.5 ? Other multicore affected Benches ?

[saaya]

so basically for k8 it was:

ref clock x cpu multi = cpu speed
cpu speed / mem divider = mem speed
ref clock x ht multi = ht speed


and for k10 it is:

ref clock x cpu multi = cpu speed
ref clock x nb multi = nb speed
nb speed / mem divider = mem speed
ref clock x ht multi = ht speed/l3 cache speed

or am i missing something?

thanks a lot to tony macci kte and... cant spell your nickname, the guy writing k10 calc :P and everybody else taking part in this thread

[Lightman]

Aussie FX: You have a 9500, can you boot above 2GHz NB speed? (look at OverDrive to see what your core speeds read please)

I can boot up to HTT 240MHz anytime, everytime. I also confirmed that this CPU is less stable with high overclock under x64 OSes... For example I can boot into Vista x32 at 2640MHz but for XP x64 only 2520MHz is possible.

[Tony]

KTE...i had to lose the K10 for a while, it was frustrating the tits off me

max HTT was 240, max NB clock 1940 ish, DFI bios...some issues

Working with a 6400+ now and having some fun for a couple of hrs

[doompc]

@Tony
wich brand will sell the Hammerhead?

[Tony]

No one....this time no one picked the design up as far as I know

[Tony]

To show people the DFI 790FX is quite a capable board here is 10 mins tweaked 6400+ results....base timings 5-5-4-15 the only things I changed with some voltages.



Look at the HT speed...1500+mhz not sure if it was 100% stable though.

4GB tests coming soon then back to Phenom if I ever get a CPU I can keep

[macci]

Tony, 1500 HT is VERY easy with these boards! =)

I ran full weekend loop of 3DMark06 at 8x400 (x5 HT Link) with 5000+ - thats 2GHz HT =)

I think some guys had it up to 2.5GHz HT Link with 6400+ CPU (over 500HT ref. clock!)

[muzz]

I know this is probably a stupid question, but I went googling to no effect...

I see on the Everest shots, that the chipset on the DFI says "AMD Hammer", where as the GB says "K10"

Does that name change when ya put in a K10, or is the DFI a different chipset.

[Andi64]

My K9A2 Platinum fail to post at 300Mhz ref.HTT. Max HTT was ~275Mhz and very unstable!
I don't know why , 250*5 appears to be my max.

[muzz]

I see the DFI uses the 790/600 combo like the rest...
Forget it..

DFI website was locking up/stalling, but I finally found it.

[Tony]

Tony, 1500 HT is VERY easy with these boards! =)

I ran full weekend loop of 3DMark06 at 8x400 (x5 HT Link) with 5000+ - thats 2GHz HT =)

I think some guys had it up to 2.5GHz HT Link with 6400+ CPU (over 500HT ref. clock!)

Looks like my 10 minute play needs to be extended

[Lightman]

Tony, 1500 HT is VERY easy with these boards! =)

I ran full weekend loop of 3DMark06 at 8x400 (x5 HT Link) with 5000+ - thats 2GHz HT =)

I think some guys had it up to 2.5GHz HT Link with 6400+ CPU (over 500HT ref. clock!)

Just to back up your claims



Sources:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=136
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=141

PS. 2152HTT was completely stable for normal usage. I didn't run Prime for hours, but I browsed internet and played HL2:EP2 at that setting for at least 3 hours ! Good old X2 6000+

[Jethro]

This is great stuff! I'd for one would like like to thank u guys that are hammering the limitations of this platform out even tho it's obviously no fun at times. Cant wait to join in and tweak with yah's! Thanks for all the great info!

[Tony]

I see the DFI uses the 790/600 combo like the rest...
Forget it..

DFI website was locking up/stalling, but I finally found it.

Has the fast 3132 controller off PCIE also as far as I know, SB 600 apart from only 4 sata ports is not actually that bad...

[KTE]

MSI said it's the CPU that has a problem if NB/HT ref. cannot run high speeds. The board runs above 350HT ref. and 2600MHz HT easy, so it's definitely the CPU that has NB/HT ref. limits.

I can boot up to HTT 240MHz anytime, everytime. I also confirmed that this CPU is less stable with high overclock under x64 OSes... For example I can boot into Vista x32 at 2640MHz but for XP x64 only 2520MHz is possible.

I can run 240MHz HT ref, I'm running it now but I was asking about NB speed above 2GHz. How high have you benched and booted? Use AM2+ P-States to see if you can run 10x/11x/12x multi on NB and HT at the same time at 2.2GHz and 2.64GHz.

Run EVEREST cache/mem and let us know your results please.

KTE...i had to lose the K10 for a while, it was frustrating the tits off me

max HTT was 240, max NB clock 1940 ish, DFI bios...some issues

I'm going to run X2 now aswell. Keeping the board though, becuse it's quite awesome IMO. I'm selling the 9500 and waiting for the unlocked edition because I heard rumors it's coming late this month. (?) I hope so anyway.

No coldbug on Phenoms at -18C-0C anyway, managed to try that quickly from work. Never tried lower but it makes jack difference. High HT ref./high NB will not bootup anymore.

Changing NB VID/CPU VID is impossible for me past one value either side. Maybe that's what limits it all.

[KeZzZu]

MSI said it's the CPU that has a problem if NB/HT ref. cannot run high speeds. The board runs above 350HT ref. and 2600MHz HT easy, so it's definitely the CPU that has NB/HT ref. limits.
I can run 240MHz HT ref, I'm running it now but I was asking about NB speed above 2GHz. How high have you benched and booted? Use AM2+ P-States to see if you can run 10x/11x/12x multi on NB and HT at the same time at 2.2GHz and 2.64GHz.

Run EVEREST cache/mem and let us know your results please.


I'm going to run X2 now aswell. Keeping the board though, becuse it's quite awesome IMO. I'm selling the 9500 and waiting for the unlocked edition because I heard rumors it's coming late this month. (?) I hope so anyway.

No coldbug on Phenoms at -18C-0C anyway, managed to try that quickly from work. Never tried lower but it makes jack difference. High HT ref./high NB will not bootup anymore.

Changing NB VID/CPU VID is impossible for me past one value either side. Maybe that's what limits it all.

hey hey hey , just finished up my testing booted up on 233 with ht 9x and nb 9x and becnhed sp1m and it was 29.xxx sec sad but true screenie got sorry for that voltages were pretty hight thought all near 1.4v :P well tomorrow im gonna put zalman on it and test more

[mAJORD]

It's funny, these boards make K8 as easy as you could imagine to OC, massive ht clock, massive HT frequency (yes I can run 2000Mhz just fine on my K8s aswell)

But god damn, K10! So frustrating.

And for the record, Like lightman I can boot 240 every day no problem.

I've also got a 2nd Phenom here. It's exactly the same, then again it's an almost identical batch.

LOL @ that first emoticon, kezzzu

[KTE]

hey hey hey , just finished up my testing booted up on 233 with ht 9x and nb 9x and becnhed sp1m and it was 29.xxx sec

Try 10x, 11x, and 12x on both or just the NB please.

[macci]

Changing NB VID/CPU VID is impossible for me past one value either side. Maybe that's what limits it all.

VIDs are locked upwards, for Phenom 9500 the Max VID (for CPU and CPU NB) is 1.2500V. So this is the highest you can adjust via PStates menu.

There are ways to get over maxVID of course (some boards implement VID override, some implement VID offset).
Good old volt modding can save your day too

[KeZzZu]

ok restarting maybe back