ASUS Maximus Formula SE

[T2k]

i had a temp problem with my waterblock as well. I got the swiftech h20 220 ultra kit and i pulled off the mobo and seated the waterblocked and looked at it from 360 degrees to make sure the copper plate was actually in full contact with the processor.

I then applied thermal grease, and seated the waterblock again and securely mounted it to the mobo before mounting the mobo back into the case.

Before, i was seeing 80*C with water cooling which was ridiculous. I pulled everything off, cleaned the old thermal grease, did the aforementioned procedure, and now i'm running a cool 40*C on a 9x400 OC profile.

While under prime95 or everest, temps will go up to mid 60's to low 70's while at 100% load.

hope that helps some people

Yes, I will have to do this, I guess, thanks - didn't have the time and energy to do it last night.

[T2k]

I fully agree with what was told to you
- The Storm s**ks with quads, take it or leave it, it is a fact. The difference won't be 20°C though, of course, but it could be, depending on your setup, up to 10°C. remember, most tests used a 150W heat output.

Correct and it's exactly my point: Ii DON'T CARE ABOUT EXTRA 6-8 Celsius but when it's over 60C at stock on idle then Houston has a problem, not the Swiftech, don't you agree?

A high overclocked Q6600 will reach 220-240W... The new GTX for example was optimized for quad core CPUs

- Your Eheim 1048 is a low end competitor for the LPDC circuit you have. Coupled with your restrictive Storm WB and very restrictive BlackIce Pro, plus a MCW30 and MCW60 like it or not, you have a rather low-mid range WB circuit. Only high end watercooling can outperform high end air cooling. Even your two Eiheim in series won't make it. You'll rather need two MCP655 in series

- Finally, your BlackIce Pro will never handle massive OC, even with two Eiheim in serial, from a Q6600, MCW30 and MCW60

Contrary to all this seemingly very logical points my setup handled my old ~3.0Ghz Opteron rig very well. :P
In fact earlier, when I kept it running at 2.8GHz, it was running fine even with fans being off on BIP due to an accident (I disconnected them and didn't notice it for almost a month ).
Also MCW30 is obviously off now, I use the Asus Fuzion stuff and I haven't even plugged in my AGEIA yet...
Since when Intel's stock cooling considered high-end air cooling?

Many people here, with a MCP655 pump, and a PA120.3 fight with heat above 3.6GHz, so don't expect a miracle from your watercooling unless you change the pumps and the WB

Well, since this chip ran fine at 3.6GHz with stock air cooling I would dare to say I shouldn't have any problem until 3.8GHz...

Finally, suerely reseating can give you some headroom if the problem is there

Sure thing, thanks, I will do it on the weekend.

[Leeghoofd]

I don't think you can compare a newer CPU with the heatoutput of your old opteron,... look so many peeps have given you advice that ya current cooling needs some upgrading too... if you don't want it why ask it ? You even say the air coling cuts it at 3.6 while ya WC setup doesn't !

Many peeps used the good old arctic cooling 64Pro with their opterons and got good clocks and even good temps , though for the newer batches of CPU's it just doesn't cut it...

Only thing you can do is to flush everything again and reseat it , though I doubt it will bring much...

I have the D-Tek fuzion , EK waterblock for the 8800GTX, Fuzion block of the mobo all on a thermochill PA120.3 and Extreme Flow 240 on one Laing Ultra pump...with 8/10 tubing.

CPU idles at around 30-35 degrees Centigrade at 3.4Ghz (on 1.3 volts), tops out at 55-58°C under Prime test, GPU remains at 35°C idle tops out at 50°C under 3DMark stress....

I really hope you can bring them down with ya current setup mate, though I doubt it...

Well keep us posted how it goes, but don't start to flame and curse here, we all want to help and we do it for free !!!

[T2k]

I don't think you can compare a newer CPU with the heatoutput of your old opteron,... look so many peeps have given you advice that ya current cooling needs some upgrading too... if you don't want it why ask it ? You even say the air coling cuts it at 3.6 while ya WC setup doesn't !

Exactly. That tells me it's unlikely my Storm, rather something else, like the aforementioned re-seating.

Many peeps used the good old arctic cooling 64Pro with their opterons and got good clocks and even good temps , though for the newer batches of CPU's it just doesn't cut it...

Only thing you can do is to flush everything again and reseat it , though I doubt it will bring much...

I am actually SURE it will - don't you think it's absurd to have 60+ Celsius when idling, at stock clockspeed?

I have the D-Tek fuzion , EK waterblock for the 8800GTX, Fuzion block of the mobo all on a thermochill PA120.3 and Extreme Flow 240 on one Laing Ultra pump...with 8/10 tubing.

CPU idles at around 30-35 degrees Centigrade at 3.4Ghz (on 1.3 volts), tops out at 55-58°C under Prime test, GPU remains at 35°C idle tops out at 50°C under 3DMark stress....

How does the PA120.3 compare to BIPIII?

I really hope you can bring them down with ya current setup mate, though I doubt it...

I'm fairly convinced it will come down - however I know my 1048s are doomed for replacement... only if I could find a similarly inaudible but stronger external (AC) units...

Well keep us posted how it goes, but don't start to flame and curse here, we all want to help and we do it for free !!!

No flaming from my part, I just don't like when somebody jumps in and calls me an idiot when posting some stupid stuff without reading my numbers first.

[Leeghoofd]

Look all those components I have will give a 5 - 8°C max difference compared to the gear you have, I'm just doubting the pumps can handle it all, I swapped my Laing to the Ultra plus version and it dropped idle temps with 3°C and load temps with 7°C, and that's just a silly pump replacement...and indeed 60°C on idle seems like eg the pumps aren't even working...

I'm not into big watercoolign comparison stuff, I have a link here that does a comparison with the GT version of your rad, also on that forum you can talk to Macci ( Mr Thermochill ) and ask some incredible technical explenations, maybe it's a good thing to drop in there mate and ask about ya issues

read up here :

http://www.over-clock.co.uk/ivb/inde...howtopic=17958

Good luck !!

[T2k]

Thanks a bunch, Leeghoofd - will read it in lunch break!

[newls1]

I will be getting this board soon, and was HOPING someone can answer just 2 Q's for me...... What does "OC FROM CPU LEVEL UP" mean? and "FSB STRAP TO NB" where to set this if your only aiming for a 430FSB using PC8500 ballistix ram. Many thanks....

can someone PLEASE assist me with this question before it gets burried in this thread

[T2k]

FROM LEVEL UP means it will start with given CPU's specs (ie 3GHz for QX6850 etc).

[jonny_ftm]

can someone PLEASE assist me with this question before it gets burried in this thread

Nice OC on your Q6600. Are you sure you want to buy a Maximus Formula, when the X48 is coming in a couple of weeks maybe... and suerely will solve some of the OC limits with quads (official support of FSB 400 on quad core CPUs)
The Maximus won't give you anything more than your PK5

My thoughts...

About your question, FSB strap would be set to 333 to check if stable, but as probably unstable, rather to 400

[newls1]

Nice OC on your Q6600. Are you sure you want to buy a Maximus Formula, when the X48 is coming in a couple of weeks maybe... and suerely will solve some of the OC limits with quads (official support of FSB 400 on quad core CPUs)
The Maximus won't give you anything more than your PK5

My thoughts...

About your question, FSB strap would be set to 333 to check if stable, but as probably unstable, rather to 400

The maximus will provide me with PCIE 2.0 and full speed 16x 16x for x-firing 2 3870's, where as my beloved P5K-DLX won't

[ChaosMinionX]

FROM LEVEL UP means it will start with given CPU's specs (ie 3GHz for QX6850 etc).

Yeah "FROM LEVEL UP" is just easy OCing to the next higher chip... it only gives specs of the Chip it is listing, more for a beginner I would imagine is the audience they targeted it at.

[ShawnTRD]

I will be getting this board soon, and was HOPING someone can answer just 2 Q's for me...... What does "OC FROM CPU LEVEL UP" mean? and "FSB STRAP TO NB" where to set this if your only aiming for a 430FSB using PC8500 ballistix ram. Many thanks....

LEVEL UP is easy. It automaticly sets your CPU settings to that of a faster CPU. My 6750 can go to eather a 6800 or 6850 settings. Edit: There is also a Crazy setting. Don't know what that gives me though.

The FSB STRAP TO NB is one I don't know. I asked and got no reply. It looks to be your RAM to CPU setting like 1:1. But I don't know because there is a DRAM Frez. setting.

[Apoc@]

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 800
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.20000
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.35
DRAM Voltage : 2.09
FSB Termination Voltage : Auto
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

Clock speed is OK for now, anybody has some improvement tips?

[Leeghoofd]

Maybe 1T if that will post mate (never tried it with 4 dimms though), or run the ram slightly faster then 800mhz my HZ's could do 980mhz easy, but be carefull the board slightly overvolts the ram so you are about running the Gskill at 2.2 volts... make sure they are well cooled...

3600mhz next step ?

[Apoc@]

I have a dominator memory cooler so they will be cooled well i hope, but i still running them on spec volts so.

I'm still pushing the Vcore / NB Volt down and still OCCT runs great.. I don't get it. Anybody has the min settings for 3200Mhz on a G0?

Maybe next week will try to push 8 x 450 but for now the 3200 is great, the chip runs great on low volts.

[Aldy402]

Any thoughts on how to make this stable. I'm on the verge here. Boots up fine and sometimes will be OCCT stable after 1 test, sometimes itll reboot, sometimes BSOD. Anyone have some advice? So far just testing CPU..

you def. need to raise your fsb-t to atleast 1.54 for your values

[vegettoxp]

Hey Guys, Quick question on Asus SE. The FSB is 1333MHz, but it can go up to 1600MHZ. Is this True? And also with this board, Can I go beyond 4GB System Ram, if I have a 64bit System? THX!

[tylerw13]

Hey Guys, Quick question on Asus SE. The FSB is 1333MHz, but it can go up to 1600MHZ. Is this True? And also with this board, Can I go beyond 4GB System Ram, if I have a 64bit System? THX!

answer to your first question is no it doesnt support 1600 mhz fsb, the x48 will support 1600 fsb however you can just overclock your mobo to get o 1600 fsb, and the seconde question is yes it will support up to 8

[safan80]

Hey Guys, Quick question on Asus SE. The FSB is 1333MHz, but it can go up to 1600MHZ. Is this True? And also with this board, Can I go beyond 4GB System Ram, if I have a 64bit System? THX!

yes it supports 1600FSB

http://www.asus.com.tw/products.aspx...11&l3=572&l4=0

[kup]

It can go higher than 1600MHz, upwards of 2000MHz with decent cooling and high volts!

And yes, you can use up to 8GB with this board and a 64bit OS.

[Nurn]

Want to know what all those BIOS Options really do (e.g. strapping)?? See

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3156&p=4

[ShawnTRD]

Want to know what all those BIOS Options really do (e.g. strapping)?? See

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3156&p=4

Thank You

[Nuckin_Futs]

Just updated BIOS from 701 to 901 hoping it will help if it's a temp reading error but no luck - it seems there's no workaround, CPU got too much compound, I have to remove the Storm and clean it... should've checked it before I have mounted...

This is not only normal for current BIOS since v0701, but moe on par for what the average combined core temps are, opposed to as before (reading only IHS surface temp). Use your favorite temp monitoring to confirm. If the BIOS temp you got looks close to the core temps (averaged) then you're fine. CPU temp in ASUS Probe is still reading IHS.

Of course the Storm doesn't know, it was designed when single core processors were the norm it is an impingement design where all the cooling is directed at where the single core would be, so on a quad a core of 2 cpu's is not having and coolant put over it so therefore 2 cores run much higher temps than the other.
Also it doesn't work properly on a dual core cpu for the same reason.

This is hardly true. Granted, water blocks are getting better then the past 5 yrs, CPU's are getting cooler and easier to keep there too on both air and water. Regaedless of cooler, an old Athlon XP Barton was harder to keep cool under high OC then even a B3 quad, and twice as easy as the earliest core 2's. So Any cooler built for the,m or the Intel D's will do the jobe on these quads.

The difference is quality. If it was low end then, it's less today. Look into the Swiftech's for better water cooling. I use them and like them for both CPU & chipset.

Also NOTE; as I said so many times on these forums, prepperation is the key to performance. propperly & completely, remove the previous TIM if it was different, and propperly clean if it was same but exposed to grease (fingers, and so on). The reaction of two different compounds can actually hinder the thermal transfer efficancy, and work against it as a blanket or insulator. So clean, clean, clean. Rubbing alcohal is not enough. Remove 1st wth non residu degreasing agent (automotive carb or break cleaner) swabbed on & worked over good with a soft brush, followed by 99% Alchohal (A/V head cleaner strength).

God luck to all!

[thelawns]

Well thats it, my work is done. I have taken both my E6550 2.33ghz and my 8800GTS (513 core / 792 mem) to their max stable overclocks and i'm tinkering no more. At standard, using 3DMark06 I reached a score of:

SM 2.0 = 3981
HDR/SM 3.0 = 3823
CPU = 2056

Total = 8597


I now have my E6550 running at 502x7 = 3.514Ghz and my 8800GTS at 625 core and 1035 mem to reach the following 3DMark06 score:

SM 2.0 = 4963
HDR/SM 3.0 = 4874
CPU = 3103

Total = 11304


To say i'm more than happy with that is an understatement, for the lowest priced 1333mhz CPU I could get my hands on, I reached an overclock I really didn't expect on air! Thanks for all your help guys...

[Nuckin_Futs]

Well thats it, my work is done. I have taken both my E6550 2.33ghz and my 8800GTS (513 core / 792 mem) to their max stable overclocks and i'm tinkering no more. At standard, using 3DMark06 I reached a score of:

SM 2.0 = 3981
HDR/SM 3.0 = 3823
CPU = 2056

Total = 8597


I now have my E6550 running at 502x7 = 3.514Ghz and my 8800GTS at 625 core and 1035 mem to reach the following 3DMark06 score:

SM 2.0 = 4963
HDR/SM 3.0 = 4874
CPU = 3103

Total = 11304


To say i'm more than happy with that is an understatement, for the lowest priced 1333mhz CPU I could get my hands on, I reached an overclock I really didn't expect on air! Thanks for all your help guys...

Way cool, I knew those 6550's had a chance on this mobo.