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    I think you should read the hardware specs in my sig. I'm running the same CPU. Trans boost enabled kills benchmark scores for me. I get faster SuperPi times with it off.
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    Well I'm back up and running with my new Thermalright Ultra 120 eXtreme(with 120mm Antec Tricool Blue fan) and HR-05 IFX NB and SB coolers.

    First off is a side view:



    I don't think I'll bother with any fans for the HR-05's because as you can see there are fans already on them effectively:



    Bit of a tight fit but the CPU has dropped a good 5-6ºC, the NB has dropped 2-3ºC and the SB has dropped 3-4ºC! Perhaps I will add one fan to the NB though...

    I have refitted the original Asus mosfet heatsink and bizarrely that's dropped 1-2ºC too. Maybe the NB was warming the mosfet with the old heatpipe link up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by btdvox View Post
    Hmm, I should note that i use a E6850 Dualcore. not quad, Reading the anandtech site, they note that AI should be set to strong and static read to disabled, as enabled enahnces performance very slightly yet causes alot of instablity, which ive found to be true.

    Transaction booster they say to enable and set to 0. disabling decreases performance

    what you think?
    Would you post up your bios settings?? I have my E6550 running at 500fsb as I type this...
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    you guys should just get an add raid controller. it's faster and you can take it with you to your next motherboard. There are cards that can fit in the 1x pci-e slots you don't use.


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    Ok, so before I installed my new Thermalright bits I ran 3dMark06 at my current stable 500fsb on Bios 0802. The only other thing thats changed is my memory, I had 800mhz and now have 1066mhz memory.

    Here are a couple of before and after shots. These were taken as soon as 3dMark06 finished and showed the result, so as near to full load as I can get them

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    After:



    I'm not sure why the voltages are so different but the temps speak for themselves! Basically, its running stable with less Volts and its running cooler. Money well spent there I think!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs View Post
    [@ KRich, RE: "Are any of you guys having any trouble running an E6600 (B2 Stepping) with a CPU ratio of either 6 or 7?"

    I had a challange getting my E6600 to 495FSB on several mobos before this (havent tryed on it yet). So it may be the CPU but mostly the lack of PLL & GTL Ref control I ahd on P5WGD2-WS and P5B.

    As for this mobo, It is jsut pick with up deviders period at certain FSB to NB straps. Enabling Static Read Control helps for the most part, but manual FSB strap and RAM frequencies make it harder to lock in. Some will, most wont. Hopefully newer BIOS will fix this. Eveen most P35's were trick here too. For best stability and dailly user performance, I'd stick to 1:1 and use FSB to get frequency since thats what X38 is built for. 500FSB is a butter zone if your CPU and other stuff can get there.

    Hope this helps.
    Thanks buddy

    I reckon you're right. I tried again and had great fun getting the system to POST with the 7 ratio at 477FSB. Each 1 FSB up from 470 needed something adjusted. Enabling Static Read Control got me up 1 FSB, adding some more voltage got me up another 1 FSB and then nothing helped getting it above 477FSB

    465FSB is good to go and 3.733GHz out of an old B2 E6600 is excellent enough to tide over till Penryn, when the real fun will start

    Time to go do some more tweaking. Who knows though, as you say, maybe a newer BIOS in the future will do some magic

    Cheers buddy.

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    I ran into this issue when I tried to install Vista onto two "right out of the box" SATA drives that had not yet been initialized or partitioned. I had to "initialize" the drives before installing Vista.

    Nurn,

    I think you’re on to something.

    How exactly did you initialize the drives?

    I’m trying to load Vista 64 on only two of my four drives (RAID 0 on the two 74 GB Raptors) for an eventual Vista 64/XP dual boot setup.

    I had this very same setup when I had the Evga 680i SLI motherboard installed and it ran fine and did not give me any problems loading Vista 64.

    By the way, thanks for the link to the Microsoft info. I’m pretty certain that this is the problem; the symptoms that are mentioned in the link are exactly what I’m experiencing.

    I also noticed that with the Maximus Formula setup I have all four drives showing up when I go to install the RAID drivers in Windows setup. With the Evga 680i board only the two drives that were configured in the Nvidia RAID utility are present during Windows Vista setup. I’m wondering if the two drives in RAID and the other two spare drives are causing the confusion with the X38 chipset. It almost sounds like the two spares will have to be disconnected during Windows Vista setup.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dMITIj View Post
    # TheSamurai Thx a lot

    But if is okay ill like to ask a nother question, how do i fit a Asus maximus BIOS file to a flobby-disk? do anyone have a link for a newbie like me? ore can tell me how to step by step
    just put the file onto the floppy/thumb drive and when you start the bios flash utility (located in bios) it should show up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSamurai View Post
    just put the file onto the floppy/thumb drive and when you start the bios flash utility (located in bios) it should show up.
    It should, provided you have Legacy USB Enabled in the Bios... Is that right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thelawns View Post
    It should, provided you have Legacy USB Enabled in the Bios... Is that right?
    you should always have it enabled for OS installations.


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    Son of a..

    430x9 unstable
    435x9 unstable
    440x9 unstable

    Could have been my backup power supply causing these problem? because right now the Antec is getting replaced for a 3rd time because it can't power my 8800GTX, so I'm using a older power supply, a 680W
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warboy View Post
    Son of a..

    430x9 unstable
    435x9 unstable
    440x9 unstable

    Could have been my backup power supply causing these problem? because right now the Antec is getting replaced for a 3rd time because it can't power my 8800GTX, so I'm using a older power supply, a 680W
    what voiltages in the bios are you using? Also are you running the beta occt? prime stable doesn't mean a thing with this board.


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    WB, it really sounds like you're enabling something that shouldn't be... or some stupid wrong setting somewhere. i don't understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thelawns View Post
    Well I'm back up and running with my new Thermalright Ultra 120 eXtreme(with 120mm Antec Tricool Blue fan) and HR-05 IFX NB and SB coolers.

    First off is a side view:



    I don't think I'll bother with any fans for the HR-05's because as you can see there are fans already on them effectively:



    Bit of a tight fit but the CPU has dropped a good 5-6ºC, the NB has dropped 2-3ºC and the SB has dropped 3-4ºC! Perhaps I will add one fan to the NB though...

    I have refitted the original Asus mosfet heatsink and bizarrely that's dropped 1-2ºC too. Maybe the NB was warming the mosfet with the old heatpipe link up!

    You just made my day, I'm deciding on WC my NB but finding an appropriate cooler for the SB was holding me back. I already have a new hr05 ifx and sli version here but now I know that they will fit with no problem.

    Edit: are you using the SLI version on the SB ?
    Last edited by Darkatom; 11-23-2007 at 06:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by safan80 View Post
    what voiltages in the bios are you using? Also are you running the beta occt? prime stable doesn't mean a thing with this board.
    I'm running beta OCCT, I can't get anything stable in it, no matter what.

    right now I'm using

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    Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
    OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
    CPU Ratio Control : Manual
    - Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
    FSB Frequency : 430
    FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
    PCI-E Frequency: 100
    DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1033
    DRAM Command Rate : 2T
    DRAM Timing Control: Auto
    DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
    Ai Clock Twister : Strong
    Transaction Booster : AUTO
    
    CPU Voltage : 1.550
    CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
    North Bridge Voltage : 1.65
    DRAM Voltage : 2.22
    FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50
    South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
    Loadline Calibration : Enabled
    CPU GTL Reference : x67
    North Bridge GTL Reference : x67
    DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
    DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
    DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
    SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
    
    NB LED Selection : NB Volt
    SB LED Selection : SB Volt
    CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
    Voltiminder LED : Disabled
    
    CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
    PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
    
    Advanced CPU Configuration
    CPU Ratio Control : Manual
    - Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
    C1E Suppport : Disabled
    CPU TM Function : Disabled
    Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
    Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
    Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs View Post
    Not with Loadline Calibration "enabled". In fact, not only do I not get a vdroop, but with my PLL, GTL Ref, and FSBT, I get a vboost to .01v under load so I get to use the lower vcore for idle and my 1.576v for full load gaming. and back to 1.565v at idled and reduced multi to 3.0GHz on 6x.
    you are the man!!! that has solved my vdroop issues!!! I had it set to auto.

    Cheers

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    can u guys provide me a link to the beta occt?
    i cant seem to find the version with the slider

    thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldy402 View Post
    can u guys provide me a link to the beta occt?
    i cant seem to find the version with the slider

    thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warboy View Post
    I'm running beta OCCT, I can't get anything stable in it, no matter what.

    right now I'm using

    Code:
    Extreme Tweaker
    Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
    OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
    CPU Ratio Control : Manual
    - Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
    FSB Frequency : 430
    FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
    PCI-E Frequency: 100
    DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1033
    DRAM Command Rate : 2T
    DRAM Timing Control: Auto
    DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
    Ai Clock Twister : Strong
    Transaction Booster : AUTO
    
    CPU Voltage : 1.550
    CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
    North Bridge Voltage : 1.65
    DRAM Voltage : 2.22
    FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50
    South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
    Loadline Calibration : Enabled
    CPU GTL Reference : x67
    North Bridge GTL Reference : x67
    DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
    DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
    DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
    SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
    
    NB LED Selection : NB Volt
    SB LED Selection : SB Volt
    CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
    Voltiminder LED : Disabled
    
    CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
    PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
    
    Advanced CPU Configuration
    CPU Ratio Control : Manual
    - Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
    C1E Suppport : Disabled
    CPU TM Function : Disabled
    Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
    Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
    Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
    if your getting error code 1 in occt you need to up the vcore.


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    Quote Originally Posted by safan80 View Post
    if your getting error code 1 in occt you need to up the vcore.
    I'm not getting a error code I'm getting lockups and reboots
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warboy View Post
    I'm not getting a error code I'm getting lockups and reboots
    DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
    Ai Clock Twister : Strong
    Transaction Booster : AUTO

    try to disable or lower the above setting to see any improvement !
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    Quote Originally Posted by dennismagic View Post
    DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
    Ai Clock Twister : Strong
    Transaction Booster : AUTO

    try to disable or lower the above setting to see any improvement !
    In your sig your REV i wrong... 802 is the BIOS number the REV will be 1.02g ore 1.03g
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    I have question about this function. When i change from peg/pci to pci/peg - my video card dont load, but the system is runing - why ?
    For what is this function, and how i must set this ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Malik View Post
    I have question about this function. When i change from peg/pci to pci/peg - my video card dont load, but the system is runing - why ?
    For what is this function, and how i must set this ?

    Ok, PEG/PCI.

    PEG means the PCIe Graphics aka P E G.

    we all know what PCI means. but anyways, when you switch these, Its tell the motherboard to look for graphics cards in PCI slots and the not PCIe slots.
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    ok now i'm understand
    And this PEG PORT CONTROL - can i disabled or not ?

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