ASUS Maximus Formula SE

[initialised]

Right my mobo is lying without mossfet & NB heatsinks. The SB heatsink, once the ROG label fell off is just not budging!! How hot do I have to get it before it comes off?? Am I being impatient or what?

What is your Revision number and did yours have the R.O.G. heatsink on the VRM?

[cuke2u]

Thanks, will take a look when I open it and yes, it was from scan.

Here's their comparison with the non SE (they don't seem to have the non 'V2' SE any more). Only difference is that it loses the 4 pin motherboard power connector.

Hi, not in the pictures it doesn't, it shows the non se as having 4 pins, and the se as having eight, which contradicts the specs...
Chris

[initialised]

True, it has an eight with a plug to allow it to run as a 4 pin.

The picture of the V2 shows it as having an R.O.G heatsink on the VRMs. The board they have sent has an ASUS heatsink. And the same revision numbers as the one on clunks review.

[thelawns]

It seems to me like you have the same version as everyone else...

What does the label say on the box? Mine is as follows:

Serial No. ***************
Part: 90-MBB7M0-GOEAYOOZ
MAXIMUS FORMULA/SE <GREEN>

[thelawns]

Oh well i'm having fun with my Thermalright stuff. I managed to get the SB heatsink off now.

1. Can my 8800gts be fitted in to the lower PCI-e x16 slot or not?

2. The HR-09 mossfet coolers don't seem to fit. If I choose the short side they are too short and don't cover all the chips and the long side is well just too long! Who else has fitted these and how??

[Renegade5399]

the question is, is it stable in OCCT?

OCCT is how I got to where I am actually. The damned thing kept rebooting, even with high voltages. I ran OCCT set to CPU and it ran fine for 2 hours! So I switched it to RAM and within 40 seconds, my rig rebooted. So I reset all my voltages and started my overclock again. Using OCCT I was able to get my CPU to 4050MHz with 1.54 volts. I then set it to RAM and found that my NB voltage was too low. Bumped it up a notch at a time until it was stable. Bumped it up one more to be safe and ran OCCT set to RAM overnight while I slept (6 hours). Woke up to OCCT still running. For the hell of it I kicked off Orthos set to blend and let that run for 3 hours this morning. Ran no issues. Looped 3Dmark06 for 30 minutes, then ran 03 and 05, and finally CS:S Stress test and played for an hour. No hitches, reboots, or issues. I am calling this stable.

On a side note, the 266 strap is still for sure broken in 0802. Wonder if they will ever get that fixed.

[TheSamurai]

very nice renegade!! would you mind using the template and filling it out???

Extreme Tweaker 
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual 
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO 
CPU Ratio Control : Manual 
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 
FSB Frequency : 
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 
PCI-E Frequency: 
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 
DRAM Command Rate : 
DRAM Timing Control: Manual 
CAS# Latency : 
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 
RAS# Precharge : 
RAS# ActivateTime : 
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 
Write Recovery Time : 
Read to Precharge Time : 

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 
Write to Read Delay (S) : 
Write to Read Delay (D) : 
Read to Read Delay (S) : 
Read to Read Delay (D) : 
Write to Write Delay (S) : 
Write to Write Delay (D) : 
DRAM Static Read Control: 
Ai Clock Twister : 
Transaction Booster : 

CPU Voltage : 
CPU PLL Voltage : 
North Bridge Voltage : 
DRAM Voltage : 
FSB Termination Voltage : 
South Bridge Voltage : 
Loadline Calibration : 
CPU GTL Reference : 
North Bridge GTL Reference : 
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : 
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : 
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : 
SB 1.5V Voltage : 

NB LED Selection : NB Volt 
SB LED Selection : SB Volt 
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt 
Voltiminder LED : 

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled 
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled 

Advanced CPU Configuration 
CPU Ratio Control : Manual 
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 
C1E Suppport : Disabled 
CPU TM Function : Disabled 
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled 
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled 
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled 


USB Configuration 
USB Functions: Enabled 
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

[ElEctric_EyE]

OCCT is how I got to where I am actually. The damned thing kept rebooting, even with high voltages. I ran OCCT set to CPU and it ran fine for 2 hours! So I switched it to RAM and within 40 seconds, my rig rebooted. So I reset all my voltages and started my overclock again. Using OCCT I was able to get my CPU to 4050MHz with 1.54 volts. I then set it to RAM and found that my NB voltage was too low. Bumped it up a notch at a time until it was stable. Bumped it up one more to be safe and ran OCCT set to RAM overnight while I slept (6 hours). Woke up to OCCT still running. For the hell of it I kicked off Orthos set to blend and let that run for 3 hours this morning. Ran no issues. Looped 3Dmark06 for 30 minutes, then ran 03 and 05, and finally CS:S Stress test and played for an hour. No hitches, reboots, or issues. I am calling this stable.

On a side note, the 266 strap is still for sure broken in 0802. Wonder if they will ever get that fixed.

Nice dude, congrats! Are you running Cpu & Ram tests on OCCT? Man, 1.54V for a 4GHz OC is awesome, could you share some of you other BIOS settings...

[cuke2u]

True, it has an eight with a plug to allow it to run as a 4 pin.

The picture of the V2 shows it as having an R.O.G heatsink on the VRMs. The board they have sent has an ASUS heatsink. And the same revision numbers as the one on clunks review.

Hi, so what you are saying it would seem that the motherboard is no different from ours Looks like scan are running a scam
Chris

[GAR]

Newegg is now selling this board for 309.99......im begginig to dislike newegg more and more everyday.

[kimandsally]

if these is true, then I'm RMA'ing my board right away, once its proven.

Great idea lets all RMA our boards.

Then when the price is doubled on the next version we all know why it's because we RMA mobo's just because we want a new revision.

[Nuckin_Futs]

@ Thelawns, What version of the HR-09 did you recieve? Since the relesse of P35's, there are now "3" sizes (type 1,2,3) of same "2" types ("U" for straight up, & "S" for slant) to choose from.

Type 3 has the shortest "big side" of 58mm and "short side" of 46mm. Types 1 & 2 each have "big sides" of 84mm. Type 2 has the longest "small side of 70mm while type 1 has a 61mm "small side", and type 3 has the smallest "small side" of 46mm.

I will look into what I used but I do remember the ones I used had clrearence issues with the slide on brakets around the rear mossfets so I made my own bracket from steel BBQ barb skewer with 3mm holes or through bolts from bottom. Thet fit so much snugger then ever. I had to do it first on my old ASUS A8N-SLI cause we had only the 1 ytpe to choose (the ones from my ASUS P5WDG2-WS) and had to even trim the copper base a notch to fit my bolts in.

Hope this helps, again, I will look if you dont find the right size by then.

Also, you can still get the Intel 82801 ICH9R iostar RAID driver installed on current OS but it is trickier, and especially sine we ahve no 2nd SATA controller to use. I'll explain more if needed, here for others or in PM if you'd like.

Good luck!

[btdvox]

It seems moer people are using 0802.

Any new results from 0901, im going to be using the 400 strap on the 3:4 divider.

[Nuckin_Futs]

If I must use a devider, I like the 5:6 @ 500x8, (DDR1200) but it is not that good stable on v0901 right now, but still testing throughout the day. It was cool w/ 0802, but not w/ the 7x so so. Tricky getin' it to lock in and go back to work.

[devilhood]

I'm trying to install the matrix storage manager from windows on my X38 board and I get an error message saying my system doesn't meet the minimum requirements..

Upon further investigation, the current chipset identification utility doesn't work.

Any ideas??

Has anyone tried to use the chipset identification utility on X38??

You might want to try enabling AHCI in the BIOS first. Be warned though, that in doing so, you may be required to re-install your operating system.

The Intel Matrix Storage drivers aren't designed for a controller acting in Standard IDE mode

[Nuckin_Futs]

You might want to try enabling AHCI in the BIOS first. Be warned though, that in doing so, you may be required to re-install your operating system.

The Intel Matrix Storage drivers aren't designed for a controller acting in Standard IDE mode

You must enable RAID in SATA Configuratino. And yes you should have installed w/ f6 floppy from new install, but it can be fixed in existing OS, but needs some tricks. Yo will need "2" extra SATA HDD's asside from the OS SATA, a sepperate 3rd party SATA controller to boot from, or a 2nd PC to with the 2 sepperate SATA controllers, one using an Intel ICH8R/9R.

Let me know if you need further help as other mate above.

[Talonman]

Well I did something potentially foolish last night...

I should have my Thermalright bits and bobs arriving today so I thought I'd prepare the mobo a little by getting the Fusion block off. The foolish part was doing it while the PC was still on! It worked and came off pretty easily but the temp started rocketing from 40ºC right up to 85ºC+ by the time I managed to shut the thing down. Hopefully it'll switch back on OK!

Please do no not try this at home kids!

You got lucky. The intel instructions that came with my Q6600 has that the average life expectancy of a chip with no heat sink, is 10 seconds before you fry it.

[Warboy]

my 440x9 has destablized

Going to work on it tonight.

[initialised]

It seems to me like you have the same version as everyone else...

What does the label say on the box? Mine is as follows:

Serial No. ***************
Part: 90-MBB7M0-GOEAYOOZ
MAXIMUS FORMULA/SE <GREEN>

Same, I'm sure it was more expensive than the standard but that's not on their site now.

This isn't the product I was advertised. I'm going to return it.

I'm guessing they made a mistake. Emails say one thing invoice says another (no mention of V2).

Doubt Scan would intentionally scam. Their reputations to important to them.

[devilhood]

You must enable RAID in SATA Configuratino. And yes you should have installed w/ f6 floppy from new install, but it can be fixed in existing OS, but needs some tricks. Yo will need "2" extra SATA HDD's asside from the OS SATA, a sepperate 3rd party SATA controller to boot from, or a 2nd PC to with the 2 sepperate SATA controllers, one using an Intel ICH8R/9R.

Let me know if you need further help as other mate above.

Intel Matrix Storage drivers are designed for AHCI AND RAID specifications, not just RAID alone.
The only exception to this rule are a few ICH controllers that were missing RAID, but had AHCI support, however, you could still trick it into using the driver by adding the Device ID manually into the inf.

[kimandsally]

my 440x9 has destablized

Going to work on it tonight.

That's a high overclock, has the ambient temps risen or do you think it's something else?

[Nurn]

Wow, this is indeed the mother of all threads. I am just assembling my system now, hope to mildly OC to maybe 9 x 400/425 on air.
One thing I learned while installing Vista64... DO NOT INSTALL EPU DRIVERS OR THE AI SUITE from the disk that comes with the MoBo. It turns your keyboard into a lethal weapon, causing numerous applications to freeze up in Vista. Go to the ASUS website, and find the latest AI Suite there (version 15, I think). I have come across a few posts in this forum from other users who have encountered this problem, but it definitely merits repeating because I was stumped for two days trying to figure out what was happening.

[Renegade5399]

very nice renegade!! would you mind using the template and filling it out???

Extreme Tweaker 
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual 
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO 
CPU Ratio Control : Manual 
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1199
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual 
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax: 0

CPU Voltage : Set to 1.57 for 1.54 Real
CPU PLL Voltage : Set to 1.6 for 1.71 Real
North Bridge Voltage : Set to 1.55 for 1.57 Real
DRAM Voltage : Set to 2.22 for 2.32 Real
FSB Termination Voltage : Set to 1.53 (?) for 1.55 Real
South Bridge Voltage : Set to 1.1 for 1.12 Real
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : Set to 1.5 for 1.55 Real

NB LED Selection : NB Volt 
SB LED Selection : SB Volt 
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt 
Voltiminder LED : 

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled 
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled 

Advanced CPU Configuration 
CPU Ratio Control : Manual 
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled 
CPU TM Function : Disabled 
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled 
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled 
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled 


USB Configuration 
USB Functions: Enabled 
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

Nice dude, congrats! Are you running Cpu & Ram tests on OCCT? Man, 1.54V for a 4GHz OC is awesome, could you share some of you other BIOS settings...

Yes, first I ran it set to CPU to max out temps and get an idea where the CPU was stable. Then ran it on "blend" (the middle setting) to get an idea of where the NB volts should be. Finally ran it on RAM to really stress the NB<=>RAM and this yielded a reboot. This is how I knew I needed more NB volts. Ended up at 1.57 Real (1.55 BIOS). Requested BIOS settings above.

Great idea lets all RMA our boards.

Then when the price is doubled on the next version we all know why it's because we RMA mobo's just because we want a new revision.

I agree with you on this one. No need to RMA a working board. Sell it and buy another.

[Warboy]

That's a high overclock, has the ambient temps risen or do you think it's something else?

it has to be something else, because the ambient temp is dropping..

i got it to re-stabilize at 435x9, I'll work on it after i have some pumpkin pie and a nap.

[Sly Fox]

Well, that's it. I think I'm going to just take this entire worthless pile of silicon outside and smash it to ing pieces with a hammer. I can't take this bull anymore, it's just too much.

I have tried everything from adding extra cooling, to trying every bios known to man, to replacing the CPU, RMA'ing the board, replacing the RAM, replacing the PSU, reformatting Vista multiple times, and pumping tons of volts through everything.

I CAN NOT get this board stable, it is impossible. Last night I got OCCT to run for over 8 hours without any errors. I was so relieved, I thought that perhaps my troubles were finally over. Nope.

Now I'm getting errors in Memtest within the first pass... Everytime... Even though I'm running the memory completely at stock settings (400 mhz, 4-4-4-12). And yes, I'm giving it the full 2.2v too (it's Ballistix).

I can't take this anymore. I have spent well over $1000 trying to get my computer to work right over the last 4 months, and I thought that with this motherboard all that would end. Well, I RMA'd the first one and this is my second and everything is still ed up. I'm completely at the end of my rope.

At this point it looks like I'll just have to abandon the entire computer and give up. There goes $2700 straight down the drain, weeee!