**Official ABIT IP-35 Pro Review/Overclock/Guide Thread**

[glen]

With the bolt mod, is it OK to remove the thermal pad and use Arctic Silver 5?

Or do you have to use the Arctic ceramitique because its non conductive?

[C-N]

With the bolt mod, is it OK to remove the thermal pad and use Arctic Silver 5?

Or do you have to use the Arctic ceramitique because its non conductive?

Ace has the links in his sig..... here they are anyway

ABIT IP35 Pro Heatpipe mod:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=751

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=760
CN

[Billy 2 Sips]

there is a "power management" tab under each of the "USB Root Hub" driver entries in "System"...uncheck the power saving mode.

Thanks, this fixed it in xp.

In vista I had to change the "usb selective suspend setting" in the advanced power options to enabled. This then allowed me to untick the power saving mode in the usb root hub entries.

[NLight95]

I'll be upgrading from my E6600 to a Q6600 in a few days. I aim to oc to (hopefully) 3.4-3.5 GHz with the Q6600. My current PWM temps are 39 idle and 50 under max load (Orthos small FFT).

For those of you who are running quads, what are your PWM temps? Did you have to do any mods to the IP35 Pro heatsink assembly or install an aux fan?

[glen]

Ace has the links in his sig..... here they are anyway

ABIT IP35 Pro Heatpipe mod:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=751

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=760

CN

yes I saw those it doesn't say if you can remove the thermal pads and use AS #5.

I know when heat sinking voltage regulators you have to use mica. I guess I'll just replace the plastic pins with bolts, tighten down good and call it a day.

[Ace-a-Rue]

those above links do not work for whatever reason.

i did not mention replacing the TIM material directly but i gave you a cluewhen i said the TIM peeled off real easy.

[lazy]

are there any improvements from the newer bios? im currently on 14 was wondering it anything important changed

[Ace-a-Rue]

the 16 beta bios allows better memory usage with four sticks and the board will not shutdown when you save bios changes; a good thing in my book!

[glen]

For the Vdroop mod, I guess I don't understand why Abit didn't just incorporate this into the board in the first place. If the regulation is capable.
Has me thinking there may be a downside to doing this mod ?

[AstroCreep]

For the Vdroop mod, I guess I don't understand why Abit didn't just incorporate this into the board in the first place. If the regulation is capable.
Has me thinking there may be a downside to doing this mod ?

Well, only the obvious one of "If I 'F' it up"!

[glen]

Well, only the obvious one of "If I 'F' it up"!

I've done quite a bit of SMD soldering so I'm not worried about that.

The system I'm building needs to be super stable, at first glance I would think the vdroop mod would help stability but I just can't help but wonder why it wasn't incorporated into the board in the first place.

[Ace-a-Rue]

For the Vdroop mod, I guess I don't understand why Abit didn't just incorporate this into the board in the first place. If the regulation is capable.
Has me thinking there may be a downside to doing this mod ?

i think intel design of Vdroop can not be tinkered with in order to have the intel name adorned to the board and box...they have to build a secondary circuit like asus does which is enabled or disabled from the bios....and...that cost more money.

[Pntgrd]

the 16 beta bios allows better memory usage with four sticks and the board will not shutdown when you save bios changes; a good thing in my book!

Ace, what did it do for memory with 4 sticks? I have been lost for the last couple of weeks trying to make Crysis work at it's best. (and it just might after another year of upgrades). I did flash up to 16 to cure my NIC problem but have not tried any testing to see if I can get any better on my OC.

[NLight95]

the 16 beta bios allows better memory usage with four sticks and the board will not shutdown when you save bios changes; a good thing in my book!

Indeed, this is good news. Shutting down only briefly then powering back up has always concerned me. If done frequently enough, I imagine much higher HDD failure, especially with high-rpm models like the Raptors. Surprisingly this hasn't been the case or at least I haven't heard.

When you say "better memory usage" does that mean compatibility with more memory manuf, tighter timings, or increased speed?

[Ace-a-Rue]

my understanding is higher memory Mhz with 4 sticks...

[jagt]

Blah, I give up. I've tried every thinkable combination now, and I just can't get this board stable over 450MHz FSB with my G0 Q6600. So it's either a board limitation, or a CPU FSB limitation. As mentioned before, I get lock-ups in Windows at everything over 450, and it's extremely annoying. My goal was 463x8, but it doesn't seen possible. Isn't 450MHz a very low limitation? I see most people getting like 470+ out of their quads...

Anyway. I basically have two choices now:
1) 450x8 for 3600MHz with a 5:6 divider for 1080MHz memory.
2) 415x8 for 3740Mhz with a 4:5 divider for ~ 1040MHz memory.

Does FSB over 400MHz make much of a difference? Which combination should I choose?

[strange|ife]

Indeed, this is good news. Shutting down only briefly then powering back up has always concerned me. If done frequently enough, I imagine much higher HDD failure, especially with high-rpm models like the Raptors. Surprisingly this hasn't been the case or at least I haven't heard.

When you say "better memory usage" does that mean compatibility with more memory manuf, tighter timings, or increased speed?

it shouldnt be a serious issue, unless your in the bios 24/7 doing alot of stuff, I set the HDD delay to 3 seconds, its in the bios, under advanced. So when the system starts up, there is a pause before the drives spin up. I firgure that should be good enough to stave off any unwanted abuse.

Wonder when beta16 is going final? i was unable to get it stable with my system, probably due to 4 dimm's , or just a bad flash. bios 14 has been fine though

[strange|ife]

Blah, I give up. I've tried every thinkable combination now, and I just can't get this board stable over 450MHz FSB with my G0 Q6600. So it's either a board limitation, or a CPU FSB limitation. As mentioned before, I get lock-ups in Windows at everything over 450, and it's extremely annoying. My goal was 463x8, but it doesn't seen possible. Isn't 450MHz a very low limitation? I see most people getting like 470+ out of their quads...

Anyway. I basically have two choices now:
1) 450x8 for 3600MHz with a 5:6 divider for 1080MHz memory.
2) 415x8 for 3740Mhz with a 4:5 divider for ~ 1040MHz memory.

Does FSB over 400MHz make much of a difference? Which combination should I choose?

having 4 sticks natrually will reduce your fsb headroom. the hightest i can get it stable(tested 3 hours prime) is 462fsb. I settled for the fsb in my sig. and yes higher fsb will give better performance, but in gaming its really nothing that drastic, i would be happy with your settings. Or take two sticks out and sell them, and then run higher fsb. 480+ of course on air u can only take it so far if its your 24/7 rig.

[jagt]

having 4 sticks natrually will reduce your fsb headroom. the hightest i can get it stable(tested 3 hours prime) is 462fsb. I settled for the fsb in my sig. and yes higher fsb will give better performance, but in gaming its really nothing that drastic, i would be happy with your settings. Or take two sticks out and sell them, and then run higher fsb. 480+ of course on air u can only take it so far if its your 24/7 rig.

Hm.. I actually didn't quite think of that. So the FSB headroom decreases even if I reduce the memory frequency by running 1:1? 1:1 did nothing as far as stability goes. I need 4GB of RAM so I guess I'll settle for the 9x multiplier...

[neonflx]

does any knows if the swiftech MC30 will fit the NB i have one laying around and will like to water cooled the NB, my concern is that i will have to cut the pipe and don't know how it will affect the PW

i have a couple active coolers to use on the SB also , so i could remove that just curiuos, thanks for any suggestions

[maxwedge]

does any knows if the swiftech MC30 will fit the NB i have one laying around and will like to water cooled the NB, my concern is that i will have to cut the pipe and don't know how it will affect the PW

i have a couple active coolers to use on the SB also , so i could remove that just curiuos, thanks for any suggestions

It will fit but you're wasting your time IMO. I did it and use a water chiller and got on gains at all. And you loose your warranty.

[Glow9]

So I click on each of the links for the other guides and it's pretty much copied and pasted onto other forums. Am I missing something? But this is a ABIT IP-35 Pro Review/Overclock/Guide? If it's a guide wheres the how to OC this thing? Anyone have a step by step for an P35 or Abit IP35 pro board how to? My buddy in Texas could use one.

[neonflx]

It will fit but you're wasting your time IMO. I did it and use a water chiller and got on gains at all. And you loose your warranty.

yeah you have a good point , my temps are really good on since i did the bolt mod and placed a nice big fan on it, thanks

[Ace-a-Rue]

Wonder when beta16 is going final? i was unable to get it stable with my system, probably due to 4 dimm's , or just a bad flash. bios 14 has been fine though

i bet it is due to the memory....my corsair dominators DDR1142 just do not perform very well on this board...my Teamgroup DDR1000 outperforms the dominators by a small margin.

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