As much as everyone that Loves ATI wants these cards to be faster than the 8800GT, it is NOT!!! nor will it ever be with future drivers, just like the 2900XT was NOT faster than the 8800GTS/GTX......trust me i wish they were so i could crossfire 2 of them, but im not going to upgrade intill the next generation of video cards comes along, rv700/9 series.