ASUS Maximus Formula SE

[vegettoxp]

Thx for the input TheSamurai and Majoram, That is all I need to hear from you TheSamurai. I will order right after I read some reviews on the board. Thx again TheSamurai.

[zsamz_]

cyberdruid how you likin this board compared to your dfi?
as stable?

[intothefantasy]

got anyone with this board went for phase change cooling?

[safan80]

got anyone with this board went for phase change cooling?

check the early pages of the thread.

[TheSamurai]

Thx for the input TheSamurai and Majoram, That is all I need to hear from you TheSamurai. I will order right after I read some reviews on the board. Thx again TheSamurai.

NP i'm sure you'll love the board once you figure out it's quirks. after reading around on all the other x38 boards i realized that i made the right choice. they all seem to have issues in one area or another. i've also read that the x48 wasn't a big deal as well as the new yorkies (i know i'm going to get flamed for that one haha).

what are you going to be running on the board? i'd update your signature so that it shows.

[sdumper]

Yeah I was hoping to be one of the first kids on the Block with a York...but that was last month...

But w/e as long as it FOLDS

I hear yaa

[393]

Yes, the only difference is the cooling setup that is used on each board.

Thanks

[CyberDruid]

cyberdruid how you likin this board compared to your dfi?
as stable?

Not a bad board. I think in some ways I am more at home in the DFI BIOS..I probably need more time with "Princess" to make a call.

The DFI is loads cooler on the CPU but the Chipset is way hot. The Maximus seems hot on the CPU to me in comparison...but the chipset stays cool even under hefty volts.

Best I could do so far is 4050 with the Maximus and was getting a tad over 4100 with the DFI on the same CPU. There are too many variables though to say why.

Folding performance on the Maximus is better than the DFI by several seconds at the same CPU speed. Could be the X38 is some advantage there.

Without a doubt the dual 16X lanes are superior to the DFI set up. With all things equal that extra bandwidth yields better 3D performance.

Not very happy with the RAID controller on either board TBH. Pretty lame to see bandwidth in RAID0 that is not even equal to single drive speeds. And this with Raptors...I am clueless.

I actually gave up on RAID with these boards..the first time in a long time I have done that.

I think for overall Clocking Finesse the DFI rules...but for actual 3D performance the Maximus takes the prize. They both run dead stable at 3600 and will bench at 3950.

[zsamz_]

Not a bad board. I think in some ways I am more at home in the DFI BIOS..I probably need more time with "Princess" to make a call.

The DFI is loads cooler on the CPU but the Chipset is way hot. The Maximus seems hot on the CPU to me in comparison...but the chipset stays cool even under hefty volts.

Best I could do so far is 4050 with the Maximus and was getting a tad over 4100 with the DFI on the same CPU. There are too many variables though to say why.

Folding performance on the Maximus is better than the DFI by several seconds at the same CPU speed. Could be the X38 is some advantage there.

Without a doubt the dual 16X lanes are superior to the DFI set up. With all things equal that extra bandwidth yields better 3D performance.

Not very happy with the RAID controller on either board TBH. Pretty lame to see bandwidth in RAID0 that is not even equal to single drive speeds. And this with Raptors...I am clueless.

I actually gave up on RAID with these boards..the first time in a long time I have done that.

I think for overall Clocking Finesse the DFI rules...but for actual 3D performance the Maximus takes the prize. They both run dead stable at 3600 and will bench at 3950.

thanks for reply
i'm more of a 500fsb+ junky
when i tried the x38-dq6 performance was great well 5% over my p35 got my cpu to 4.3
but for 3 weeks a reinstalled os 10+ times
for 500fsb+ which one you think is better i'm thinkin of waitin on the dfi-x38
as the x38 needs a good bois imho
my only concern is the pwm

[Century Phoenix]

Hello! I have a Maximus Formula, with the Bios 0602.
I change, the LCD poster option, to "User string" (default setting is "Current time"), ok, but ... how to define the "User String"?

[cuke2u]

Hi, my replacement motherboard has arrives, 1.02g of course, found out I'd ordered the wrong sized tubing for my wc so I'll have to wait until the correct ones get here now. Just trying to get the NB/SB off, seems to be tight, do I need to heat it up?
Thanks...
ChrisC

[Majoram]

Hi, my replacement motherboard has arrives, 1.02g of course, found out I'd ordered the wrong sized tubing for my wc so I'll have to wait until the correct ones get here now. Just trying to get the NB/SB off, seems to be tight, do I need to heat it up?
Thanks...
ChrisC

Yes, don't try prying it off without heat. Also just read the last couple pages (from page 99 or so) of posts and you will find all the info you need on removing it.

[cuke2u]

Yes, don't try prying it off without heat. Also just read the last couple pages (from page 99 or so) of posts and you will find all the info you need on removing it.

Thanks, it actually came away without any heat, I just kept levering it at different corners until it pinged off. I guess they use a glue but is there any need to stick it down again, can I just use AS5?
ChrisC

[voltaire2030]

I have a temp issue and I don't know why ?

All at stock Q6600 I have on speed fan 51-47-43-39 at idle ... I cannot lauch 3d06 because I think It raise the temp and boot me out ???

[voltaire2030]

On everest :
Températures:
Carte mère 45 °C (113 °F)
Processeur 74 °C (165 °F)
CPU #1 / Coeur #1 71 °C (160 °F)
CPU #1 / Coeur #2 68 °C (154 °F)
CPU #1 / Coeur #3 62 °C (144 °F)
CPU #1 / Coeur #4 58 °C (136 °F)
North Bridge 47 °C (117 °F)
South Bridge 46 °C (115 °F)

Ventilateurs:
Processeur 2394 RPM
Châssis #3 2174 RPM
Alimentation 2173 RPM
Ventilateur nº1 1140 RPM
Ventilateur nº3 2812 RPM

Valeurs de voltage:
Noyau CPU 1.22 V
+3.3 V 3.22 V
+5 V 4.97 V
+12 V [ TRIAL VERSION ]
Mise en veille +5 V 4.90 V
FSB VTT 1.25 V
Noyau North Bridge 1.44 V
Noyau South Bridge 1.09 V
South Bridge PLL 1.55 V
DIMM 2.02 V
DIMM VTT 1.01 V
Debug Info F FF 8D FF FF FF
Debug Info T 45 74 20
Debug Info V 98 D6 CA C9 AB CF AD (03

[cuke2u]

A Tip!!

Use nail varnish remover to get rid of the goop that sticks the NB/SB heatsinks inplace, works really well and saves all that scraping...

Chris

[intothefantasy]

seriously..do u guys feel that blitz formula is better then maximus se? or isit this board still have immature bios?i would love to hear u guys opinion....it seems that with this board maximus, my 8500 balistik tracer is so damn hard to past 1200mhz...also the ram overvolt alot too...

[Simkin]

i need some help here

i run my Q6600 G0 @ 3.4 ghz now, stable @ orthos

but, when i try 3.6, i get error after only 2 seconds

i have tried to raise my PLL volt to 1.6 and vcore to 1.41

but it dont help..

tried both 0602 and 0505 bios.. using 0505 at the moment


i need a recipe

[crazyea]

i need some help here

i run my Q6600 G0 @ 3.4 ghz now, stable @ orthos

but, when i try 3.6, i get error after only 2 seconds

i have tried to raise my PLL volt to 1.6 and vcore to 1.41

but it dont help..

tried both 0602 and 0505 bios.. using 0505 at the moment


i need a recipe

We have almost exactly the same setup. These are the settings that I am using to obtain 3.6

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 25
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.41875 = 1.4 <--- Bios setting = Actual
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52 = 1.648
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49 = 1.520
DRAM Voltage : 2.12 = 2.224
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40 = 1.472
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05 = 1.088
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5 = 1.552

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled

[Cumulonimbus]

CPU TM Function : Disabled

What's the reason for disable TM2-Function?

[jonny_ftm]

Here are some more Anomalies detected Via OCCT Beta





I just noticed, I spelled Southbridge wrong

I don't think its the power supply, But OCCT did detect something strange on the 5V rail for no reason.






PS I know I'm insane, Insanely Xtreme Air Overclocker :P

My temps on the CPU after these test was only 28C on core 3-4, and 31C on 1-2.

For Some reason cores 1 and 2 are alot hotter, I know their on different dies but damn.

The 5v looks really bad. The other spikes could be artifacts, but I remember GAR noted important fluctuations on voltages on this board too. There was another guy noting DDR2 fluctuations on load. Maybe there's some thing buggy on the PWM of the Maximus.

The only thing is that your 5v makes me feel there's maybe something wired with your PSU. You should really try another one to be sure

Just wondering but does running more than one test stress the comp more or do some tests just negate each other?

Say for example running OCCT on RAM and small FFTs in Prime95 or some other mix of tests.

Yep, you only compromise each test stoling some CPU clocks on both

[crazyea]

What's the reason for disable TM2-Function?

C1E/TM/EIST all adjust voltages and/or clock multiplier based on load and/or temperature. Its best to have these disabled while overclocking.

[Cumulonimbus]

C1E/TM/EIST all adjust voltages and/or clock multiplier based on load and/or temperature. Its best to have these disabled while overclocking.

Hi,

okay, C1E and EIST should be disabled anytime, right. But TM2 are only throttle Core frequence and Vcore if the CPU heats up to the critical temperature. Some oc'ed systems are not working in this critical area, so we can leave TM2 enabled, i think. Q6600/G0 throttle first time when the Coretemperature arrives 85°C/185°F. Before this Value are not arrived, TM2 are not active. Ricgth?

cya,
Cb

Sorry for my bad english

[jonny_ftm]

Hi,

okay, C1E and EIST should be disabled anytime, right. But TM2 are only throttle Core frequence and Vcore if the CPU heats up to the critical temperature. Some oc'ed systems are not working in this critical area, so we can leave TM2 enabled, i think. Q6600/G0 throttle first time when the Coretemperature arrives 85&#176;C/185&#176;F. Before this Value are not arrived, TM2 are not active. Ricgth?

TM2 should be kept active, as you explained
C1E is for vcore, but it is automatically disabled when you overclock, even if you enable it, sadely...
EIST, opposed to what was once said, won't impact your OC at all. Personally, I disable when looking for best clock (precaution). Once stable rock, I enable and test again. If oll is ok, I keep it (never had to disable it). That way I spare energy, money and my components life. No need to run at 3.5Ghz when I write a post in XS

[S1mon-]

I'm gonna receive this board (non-SE) this week I hope it will be a great board