Quote Originally Posted by C-N View Post
For me the Read delay phase adjusts just help you tweak out your setup, theres no need to play with them (leave them on auto) until you have everything else where you want it.

The Read delay phase adjusts help you run in between performance levels, For example with the early BIOS's my rigs ram run with Read delay phase adjusts all on auto Orthos stable @ 1140mhz performance level 7 using the 333/800 divider @ 475 x 8. It would not run if you alter any of the read delay phases. Now if I then changed the ram divider to 266/667 which boosted my ram speed to 1190mhz I found I lost some performance as the 266/667 divider by default runs performance level 6. What I then did was enabled some or all of the Read delay phases to try to run in between PL6 & 7.

I think it was the 1005 or 1019 BETA BIOS that finally let me run all the read delay phases enabled. I later found out my RAM would run PL6 @ 1190mhz with these BIOS's too.

I have played for days with GTL tuning & come to the conclusion (& I am going to be slammed for it) that GTL's although they have a profound effect on stability are an un necessary waste of time. It may just be my setup but I seriously doubt it. If you just switch your "GTL+ Buffers Strength" from default strong to weak then leave the "GTL Ref Voltage Control" disabled you like me will probably be able to make 450-480 x 8 Orthos stable.

GTL tweaking is however vital particularly for the NB to stability when benching/running on the edge.

I would also up the vcore a touch just to be on the safe side & loose 2GB of ram until you get it stable.

CN

P.S for those of you that disagree please say so & why but don't all shoot at once.
Thanks a ton C-N for your replies. I have always looked forward to reading what you have to say as it is always knowledgeable and accurate. Thanks for taking the time to sort me out. I was anxious to get the Read Phase Delay working as the article stated it worked for them up to 1125mhz on their 4GB kit with a quad core so I figured it should work for me but it doesn't. I will leave it be for now. I too am getting a little frustrated with the GTL tuning and will definitely be trying out your strong to weak switch and disabling the GTL's to see what I come up with as that is something I haven't tried as of yet. Have you had any luck lowering any of the sub timings, primarily TRFC for some extra performance and if so how low were you able to go. I am going to continue to test here on my own but do like to see what others have come up with on their setups. So far mine doesn't play anywhere near like others are mentioning. YMMV is an understatement on my particular system but in that comes the joy (or curse) of using this board.

Thanks again bud, much appreciated.