Yeah, that's why I posted the initial results so someone can notice that the timing/sub-timing change is not giving me any difference in results. Negligble difference which is not what I expected and not what others I saw were getting, incl yourself. There's nothing wrong I'm doing other than what everyone does, it's a standard simple procedure, all things are constant, but I think it's hardware related...

Massman what CPU MHz/DDR MHz/latencies did you run those tests at? (so I can try them) I don't get those differences at all, no where near.