NextGen VS. CurrentGen CPU: 3DMark06

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we need the RAM across the board to be 400mhz 3-3-3

I say this is a victory for AMD with tighter RAM it should be right up there with eh new c2ds in performance/clock.

[accord99]

we need the RAM across the board to be 400mhz 3-3-3

I say this is a victory for AMD with tighter RAM it should be right up there with eh new c2ds in performance/clock.

3DMark06 CPU is not affected by memory bandwidth/latency. Faster memory is not going to make up for the clearly weaker K10 core.

[expreview]

the new CPU-Z Version can show NB speed and correct memory speed and timing...

here...version CPU-Z Version 1.41.4 preview

GP9600 3DMark06 10840 | Core 2300mhz , HT/NB Speed 1800mhz


yes,the platforma already set to Unganed Mode

you can oc and try 3GHz test!even it's server platform

[expreview]

3DMark06 CPU is not affected by memory bandwidth/latency. Faster memory is not going to make up for the clearly weaker K10 core.

ok, Cinebench R10 tst coming soon

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3DMark06 CPU is not affected by memory bandwidth/latency. Faster memory is not going to make up for the clearly weaker K10 core.

on what platform? last time I checked K8 was memory sensative in general and I'm willing to bet that K10 will be even more so when you factor in the fact that it has twice the cores and as such needs twice the memory bandwidth.

[accord99]

on what platform?

On every platform. A 3GHz Clovertown scores higher than a 2.93GHz Kentsfield on 3DMark06 CPU despite being paired with FB-DIMMs and about a 2.5% difference between DDR2-800 4-4-4-12 and DDR2-533 5-5-5-15 for a FX-62

[Epsilon84]

ok, Cinebench R10 tst coming soon

Cool, Cinebench 10 is not really affected by memory bandwith/timings so it will be a good test to see the pure 'grunt' or IPC of both cores.

While you're at it, can you also test PCMark05? That'd be great.

[Clairvoyant129]

we need the RAM across the board to be 400mhz 3-3-3

I say this is a victory for AMD with tighter RAM it should be right up there with eh new c2ds in performance/clock.

You're kidding right...? I'm not even going to try and write a rebuttal.

[Epsilon84]

You're kidding right...? I'm not even going to try and write a rebuttal.

LOL. And with a brand spanking new BIOS and new stepping, we will see it outperform Penryn and match Nehalem.

Seriously though, I do believe Phenom will get a sizeable boost jumping up to DDR2-1066, probably around 5% on average, perhaps 10% in apps heavy on bandwith.

[The0men]

It's a divider issue @ 3GHz, either the RAM will run faster or slower than the Intel system.

I actually would rather Expreview run the RAM @ 3000/7=428.57MHz, who cares if it's slightly faster than on the Intel system, at least we won't get all the whining and crap about AMD being disadvantaged (not a slur at you, just what I've noticed from the Crysis threads).

Then again, we'll probably get Intel fanboys chiming in instead that Intel is then disadvantaged, even if Intel wins the benchmark. LOL

No probs, Yer you cant win either way huh

[RPGWiZaRD]

Please why is it so hard to keep AMD vs Intel threads unbiased, let go of your feelings and try to look it from an objective way. If forums were more objective rather than subjective, there would be a lot less flamebaiting.

Objecticism (or how you call it in english) + logic are my best friends, but that's a whole different story.

Here's a hint: don't ask yourself what do you think about it, compare it to the other products instead and comment on basis on that.

[justapost]

GP9600 3DMark06 10840 | Core 2300mhz , HT/NB Speed 1800mhz


yes,the platforma already set to Unganed Mode

you can oc and try 3GHz test!even it's server platform

Thank you for that benchmark.
I assume this cpu is not an ES. What stepping is it? I heard the lower clocked modells are not B2's.

[knightwolf654]

well atleast now there is a choice from amd. it may not be as quick as the high ends but it comes with a nice price for those who would rather have it. i hope this helps amd get back some of the mainstream market.

plus this will help me beat my cousins computer which is all i want te he he

[ryboto]

well atleast now there is a choice from amd. it may not be as quick as the high ends but it comes with a nice price for those who would rather have it. i hope this helps amd get back some of the mainstream market.

plus this will help me beat my cousins computer which is all i want te he he

isn't the mainstream where AMD makes all of it's profit now? You mean take back some of the enthusiast market?

[expreview]

Thank you for that benchmark.
I assume this cpu is not an ES. What stepping is it? I heard the lower clocked modells are not B2's.

AMD RD790 ref mobo shows B2,that's what i know

[justapost]

AMD RD790 ref mobo shows B2,that's what i know

Uhm strange so they start shipping B2's even at lower clocks. I thought the higher TDP for the 2.4 GHz version is an being an B1/BA issue.

Just to clarify, you used an retail 9600 version at stock clock and not the 2.0 GHz ES sample overclocked to 2.3 GHz?

[nemrod]

Uhm strange so they start shipping B2's even at lower clocks. I thought the higher TDP for the 2.4 GHz version is an being an B1/BA issue.

Just to clarify, you used an retail 9600 version at stock clock and not the 2.0 GHz ES sample overclocked to 2.3 GHz?

It's overclock up to 3 GHz

And B2 core is around since some time:

http://www.dailytech.com/Stumbling+i...rticle8804.htm

But why stop at BA or B1. The 2.5 GHz samples featured on AnandTech's second article are of the newest roadmapped spin; revision B2. When Shimpi made the inference that the 2.5 GHz Opterons would be the closest thing to Phenom, he was hardly exaggerating. AMD's current roadmaps peg the the B2 stepping launch for Opteron and Phenom as mid-Q4 2007.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=3092

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Uhm strange so they start shipping B2's even at lower clocks. I thought the higher TDP for the 2.4 GHz version is an being an B1/BA issue.

Just to clarify, you used an retail 9600 version at stock clock and not the 2.0 GHz ES sample overclocked to 2.3 GHz?

okay，retail 9600 test coming soon。。。。

i have said that ES is no peformance different compare with retail.

user ES just for OC.....3GHz is not easy to ....

[justapost]

GP9600 3DMark06 10840 | Core 2300mhz , HT/NB Speed 1800mhz


yes,the platforma already set to Unganed Mode

you can oc and try 3GHz test!even it's server platform

^

It's that test i'm talking about. Here the NB Speed is at 1800 GHz. Was this just an CPUz issue? Then why does the latest Cinebench10 results still show 1600 GHz NB speed.
Also he talkes about using GP9600 instead of GP9000 (used for the 2.0 GHz ES in previous tests), so i thought maybe they have non ES also.

It's overclock up to 3 GHz

And B2 core is around since some time:

http://www.dailytech.com/Stumbling+i...rticle8804.htm

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=3092

Yeah, but i read a news a week or so ago that B2 will be used for >=2.4GHz.
Unfortunately I do not find that news.

[justapost]

okay，retail 9600 test coming soon。。。。

i have said that ES is no peformance different compare with retail.

user ES just for OC.....3GHz is not easy to ....

No need for another run, i just want to know the stepping of the GP9600, if it's not the ES you used for all the benchmarks at 3.0 GHz.
EDIT: Would be nice to compare it agains Q6600 (~pricing) as you seem to run the retail test already.

[Richard Dower]

GP9600 3DMark06 10840 | Core 2300mhz , HT/NB Speed 1800mhz


yes,the platforma already set to Unganed Mode

you can oc and try 3GHz test!even it's server platform

Where can we download CPU-Z 1.41.4?

[nemrod]

Where can we download CPU-Z 1.41.4?

google his your friend but better ask directly to Franck:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/member.php?u=8645