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    Superpi score proofs Phenom X4 is a bit faster than Athlon64 X2...

    In yesterday's “QX6850 VS QX9650 VS PhenomX4” we've already understand what situation Phenom may face. Some of you suggested that maybe let Phenom run some "normal banchmark" to see it's real protential. So now we are sharing the latest Superpi score of Phenom X4.

    The test bed is the same one in yesterday, also the same 790FX(Gigabyte MA790-DQ6 is already selling in Guangzhou about CNY2588,about 346USD) 1Gx2 dual channel memory in 375MHz x2, WinXP. But we adjusted the memory to 3-3-3-9-1T.



    At last, the Superpi 1M is 27.531s, and the 30M is 26m28.531s. It is of course better than Athlon 64 x2, but we are using x4 now..

    seems Phenom X4 is facing a serious situation.

    Anyway, we managed to find out some interesting info about Phenom X4's funtion. I think after all this bad news about Phenom X4, AMD fanboy finally can get some happy info about it. we are now writing some story about it, pleaese keep XtremeSystem and Expreview tuned.

    http://www.expreview.com/news/hard/2...6099d6667.html

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    thing that drives me nuts here.... is I dont care what it does at Pi.
    I want game benchmarks.
    thats all I been waiting for.
    all I ask for.
    still nothing.

    pi doesnt tell me anything about real life.
    game benchmarks do.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Kunaak View Post
    thing that drives me nuts here.... is I dont care what it does at Pi.
    I want game benchmarks.
    thats all I been waiting for.
    all I ask for.
    still nothing.

    pi doesnt tell me anything about real life.
    game benchmarks do.
    Well, at least it shows there's some improvement...

    Though that is to be expected, I'm hoping for a leap and a bound above the Athlon X2 performance...

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    Ouch. 27s on 1M is comparable to... Intel @ 1.83ghz.. or something like that.. E6600 Does like 19s on stock 2.4ghz


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    I think we want more relevant benchmarks.
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    Superpi wasn't really AMD strong point anyway....

    Give us real-life benches in games and such!

    Heh, isn't that somewhat of an oxymoron, real-life in games?
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    I want something more intense, like Cinebench
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    If nothing else you can still have the hollow consolation that Phenom will dominate specfp_view.

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    why didn't they run those timings in yesterday's tests? just because one platform can or can't run certain timings isn't the fault of the other....
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    so we have seen crysis benches and now PI. what more do people need. we have all the Barcelona numbers here as well including games and it all goes along the lines of it only being a little faster than K8. honestly an X4 at 3ghz this is down right sad when my old P4 could match this number not to mention a core at 2ghz beating the pants of it. while PI still runs better on intel. this is still a major let down after all this time and hype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kunaak View Post
    thing that drives me nuts here.... is I dont care what it does at Pi.
    I want game benchmarks.
    thats all I been waiting for.
    all I ask for.
    still nothing.

    pi doesnt tell me anything about real life.
    game benchmarks do.
    yesterday we did a test with Phenom X4 using Crysis built-in cpu benchmark.
    Crysis CPU benchmark: QX6850 VS QX9650 VS PhenomX4

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    Ouch ! With my opty @ 3 Ghz I get +1 sec (28,53x)

    But like everybody said, I want to see other benchmark results especially gaming benchmarks

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    Forgive my ignorance, but is AMD releasing Phenom X4 @ 3GHz? Or are these OC'd?
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    Quote Originally Posted by John600rr View Post
    Forgive my ignorance, but is AMD releasing Phenom X4 @ 3GHz? Or are these OC'd?
    Rumoured to launch at 2.2 to 2.6ghz
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    Hmm. I'm not quite understanding where AMD is planning to place these in their line up. It kinds of seems like they are going to not only compete against that 'other' company as well as themselves.

    They could market it flying the Quad core flag, but seem to be getting nailed by their rival in performance and in price.

    Or they could market it as being more efficient, clock for clock and more powerful in single threaded apps. But they seem to be getting beat by their own CPU's when the number of cores isn't a factor. (X2 6200 @ 3.2GHz would seem to beat or at least be even with their 2.6 Phenom).

    I don't know, anybody have any thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by [XC] hipno650 View Post
    so we have seen crysis benches and now PI. what more do people need. we have all the Barcelona numbers here as well including games and it all goes along the lines of it only being a little faster than K8. honestly an X4 at 3ghz this is down right sad when my old P4 could match this number not to mention a core at 2ghz beating the pants of it. while PI still runs better on intel. this is still a major let down after all this time and hype.
    Well, no matter how many reviews / benchmarks there are, some won't accept them unless it is to their liking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John600rr View Post
    Or they could market it as being more efficient, clock for clock and more powerful in single threaded apps. But they seem to be getting beat by their own CPU's when the number of cores isn't a factor. (X2 6200 @ 3.2GHz would seem to beat or at least be even with their 2.6 Phenom).
    not to mention that intel is stronger in single threaded apps and faster clock per clock.

    the only thing i can see them doing is going for price. as in dirt cheap quads
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    some one lock this sad excuse for a thread.
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    It's sad, I was really expecting more from AMD.

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    They could do ok if they can price them under say under $150.
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    Ok. Why are supposedly informed XS users debating irrelevant results of phenom x4 in a single-threaded bench?

    I had the same trouble yesterday trying to figure out why all the commotion over an intel optimised game time bench (crysis).

    I think I made a mistake. Someone told me XS was a place for xtreme-enthusiasts and that a lot of clued up guys frequent this forum. So I joined in the hope of learning something.

    All I've seen so far are a bunch of kids posting silly immature statements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teabag View Post


    Ok. Why are supposedly informed XS users debating irrelevant results of phenom x4 in a single-threaded bench?

    I had the same trouble yesterday trying to figure out why all the commotion over an intel optimised game time bench (crysis).

    I think I made a mistake. Someone told me XS was a place for xtreme-enthusiasts and that a lot of clued up guys frequent this forum. So I joined in the hope of learning something.

    All I've seen so far are a bunch of kids posting silly immature statements.
    Great first post. Enjoy a great first ban. Trolling, baiting, and forum-flaming is unacceptable on XS. XS is a place for Xtreme enthusiasts, not trolls.

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    I'd like to see someone bench 3dmark01, 05 and 06 at 3GHz with all game/test scores listed. That would give me a feel for this cpu.

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