ASUS Maximus Formula SE

[CERO]

from the ram its about .13 over what you set in bios, i think this may of been a tactic so that the board appears to over clock ram better or maybe just a screw up calibrating the voltages. for teh cpu i get about a .04 vdroop with a quad.

did u measured with a DIMM or with Asus Probe readout. 0.04 seems a big droop man:X I thought the new BIOS fixed this and actually overvolts abit during load? My P5K deluxe got just .008vdroop during load (blend) .016 droop small ffts. But unfortunately it got a vdrop ( mean what u set @ bios and what u got @ windows idle), is like 0.03/0.028

[Wiggy McShades]

did u measured with a DIMM or with Asus Probe readout. 0.04 seems a big droop man:X I thought the new BIOS fixed this and actually overvolts abit during load? My P5K deluxe got just .008vdroop during load (blend) .016 droop small ffts. But unfortunately it got a vdrop ( mean what u set @ bios and what u got @ windows idle), is like 0.03/0.028

well this is the problem im finding, the asus pc probe software says im only setting 1.38 v for vcore when in the bios i set 1.45, but if we use 1.38 as our real set voltage then i measured with a multimeter i end up with 1.34-1.35.

[CERO]

well this is the problem im finding, the asus pc probe software says im only setting 1.38 v for vcore when in the bios i set 1.45, but if we use 1.38 as our real set voltage then i measured with a multimeter i end up with 1.34-1.35.

hmz interesting , but did u enabled loadline callibration and with the last BIOS: 0505?

[TheSamurai]

gar i upped vcore to 1.55 and prime is still loading 99% on task manager. fyi.

[Wiggy McShades]

hmz interesting , but did u enabled loadline callibration and with the last BIOS: 0505?

im using the shipped bios and load line calibration is on, but it does not do much of anything.

[cadaveca]

gar i upped vcore to 1.55 and prime is still loading 99% on task manager. fyi.

You have a better cpu.

I have confirmed that this issues is current related...a decrease in temps made it go away. Also, an increase in temps @ lower voltage made it happen, but only over 1.425 for me.

I think, if we look at the VID of these cpu's, alot would be obvious...assuming that Intel is accurate in TDP rating, my cpu consumes 105w @ 1.2375v, 2.4ghz.

So, Amps x Volts= Watts, or Watts/Voltage = Amps. So at stock, my cpu consumes 84a @ 1.2375v.


What's your vid? If it is higher, your cpu will consume less Amps, ergo you would run into the issue @ higher voltage than I do. I bet GAR's VID is higher too...


Now, I tohught it was current form the start...and that has not changed, obviously, however remedying the situation is not something I can do...as these cpu's I have do not exhibit this behavior on other boards. It would seem like I would need an OVP mod for the board before I could overcome this...or to identify the driver/dll responsible for the system process acting this way. I'll be trying to figure this out today...

[GAR]

Hmmm, my vid is 1.2675...........i wonder if it does this with other boards.........wish i had another c2d board to test it......cadveca if you have another board give it a shot.

[-=j0nnyr0773n=-]

you must be running bios 0401... flash 0505 in there and it should be better.

Nope, I flashed to 0505 immediately when I got it

[kup]

You have a better cpu.

I have confirmed that this issues is current related...a decrease in temps made it go away. Also, an increase in temps @ lower voltage made it happen, but only over 1.425 for me.

I think, if we look at the VID of these cpu's, alot would be obvious...assuming that Intel is accurate in TDP rating, my cpu consumes 105w @ 1.2375v, 2.4ghz.

So, Amps x Volts= Watts, or Watts/Voltage = Amps. So at stock, my cpu consumes 84a @ 1.2375v.


What's your vid? If it is higher, your cpu will consume less Amps, ergo you would run into the issue @ higher voltage than I do. I bet GAR's VID is higher too...


Now, I tohught it was current form the start...and that has not changed, obviously, however remedying the situation is not something I can do...as these cpu's I have do not exhibit this behavior on other boards. It would seem like I would need an OVP mod for the board before I could overcome this...or to identify the driver/dll responsible for the system process acting this way. I'll be trying to figure this out today...

Unfortunately, I have a Quad 'G0' with the same VID as you here (1.2375v), and I don't get the problem at all. I can load 100% perfectly fine with Prime/Dual Orthos/OCCT/Folding...

[egandt]

Well the MB is so far the biggest mistake I've ever made, its crap there is no, nda, nil way to backup up the system and restore it. There are really only a few solutions for backing up and restoring a Windows System, the best is Acronis Trueimage or a poor second is Norton Ghost. I've always used Acronis Trueimage in the past, as Ghost well is out of date. It makes no difference how good the MB is if you can not back of Windows, as stability is not one of Windows strong points.
The problems are:
Acronis does not see any drives attached to the MB from the recovery disk (tested in IDE, AHCI and RAID modes), (even version 11 home, which is only a month old).
Linux works, but can not start Acronis without a floating point exception (this is really intresting as I use it on the same software without issue at work)
Acronis does not run under Windows Vista x64 without crashing (no messages, but a nice core dump)
Ghost 12 does not support Vista except by dos disk (from fourms).
Last ditch effort is to use partimage from a linux rescue disk (not likely but better than nothing, will advise)

So basically without a backup solution I can not use the system at all, and I'm stuck with a useless system.

One annoyed user,
ERIC GANDT

[CrackaBoi]

I have a G0 X3220 and 4x1GB OCZ Reaper PC9200 on this board and I can't seem to get higher than 3600. I would greatly appreciate some tips on how to get higher.

Right now I have these settings changed:
CPU Ratio: 9
FSB Strap: 400
DRAM Freq: 1066 (3:4 divider) (I think 1:1 would work too, just testing this)
Timings: 2T, 5-5-5-18
CPU volt: 1.55
All voltages at the highest "green" setting.
Both spread spectrums off.

I tried pushing every vsetting way up, but I cant get P95 stable at any higher FSB. Are any of you guys using a lower FSB strap to northbridge? If so, what are your mem settings?
I didnt touch the REF settings. Did anyone need to change those?
I cant get P95 stable with any lower vcore settings. Is there anything I should change that would let me lower this one (other than speed of course)?

thanks!

[Bigchrome]

Having the same issues as the guy above ^

[ChaosMinionX]

Problems with dividers still.... hopefully a new BIOS addresses these problems.

[tylerw13]

I have a G0 X3220 and 4x1GB OCZ Reaper PC9200 on this board and I can't seem to get higher than 3600. I would greatly appreciate some tips on how to get higher.

Right now I have these settings changed:
CPU Ratio: 9
FSB Strap: 400
DRAM Freq: 1066 (3:4 divider) (I think 1:1 would work too, just testing this)
Timings: 2T, 5-5-5-18
CPU volt: 1.55
All voltages at the highest "green" setting.
Both spread spectrums off.

I tried pushing every vsetting way up, but I cant get P95 stable at any higher FSB. Are any of you guys using a lower FSB strap to northbridge? If so, what are your mem settings?
I didnt touch the REF settings. Did anyone need to change those?
I cant get P95 stable with any lower vcore settings. Is there anything I should change that would let me lower this one (other than speed of course)?

thanks!

i have q6600 running right now @ 3.8 under water cooling @ 36c idle 45c under load
cpu volt 1.55
ram @ 853mhz @4-4-4-10
i have found your ability to overclock has direct connections with all the other weird settings you can change on there i just played around with them and im rock solid running @ 425 fsb oh and i also have 4 sticks of ddr2 1066 crucial balistix

[cadaveca]

Hmmm, my vid is 1.2675...........i wonder if it does this with other boards.........wish i had another c2d board to test it......cadveca if you have another board give it a shot.

I have many boards, and as I stated, this behavior is not there in other boards...however a few of them are subject to "multi-bounce" under same conditions.

Unfortunately, I have a Quad 'G0' with the same VID as you here (1.2375v), and I don't get the problem at all. I can load 100% perfectly fine with Prime/Dual Orthos/OCCT/Folding...

Yes, I understand where you are coming form, however the "ideal" i listed assumes that each cpu draws that 105w(95w for G0). I can safely bet, however, that your cpu IS NOT drawing that 95W, while GAR's cpu is very close to doing so. Current draw by VID is only an approximation...it is not exact. just as the TDP of each cpu is not exact, although Intel has exact specs...


I hate to say this, but you must open your mind a bit. There's no emotion in any of my posts...I jsut state things as they are, from my perspective. I am fortunate, however, that because of my lack of emotion, and my perspectiv, I do not discount anything as a possibility until proven otherwise, and your observations of your own cpu does NOT prove otherwise...what volts are you using for your cpu? What cooling? load temps? idle temps? All of these affect current consumption of a cpu. Better cooling = less leakage = less current consumption.


Now, please take no offense from my comments; that is not my intent. But please do not be so quick to judge a situation without first obtaining ALL of the information. I have not got all the info myself yet(working on it), but i can guarantee that should I have your cpu I could get the same clocks as you, if not more, on my board, using the same cooling. I can also guarantee that my cpu or GAR's cpu would behave just the same on YOUR board, as you are not aware that I have more than one Maximus, which exhibits the exact same behavior at the exact same places.

The cuase of this problem is not in quesiton...controlling it is.


Also note that while you have the same VID as I do, G0 draws less power than B3, which i have. So...1.2375 x AMPS=95W in your case. 1.2375 x AMPS=105W in my case, ergo my cpu will draw much more than your does.

Even better, we cannot directly compare power consumption of different revisions of the same chip. I run @ load @ 73c, under water...you'd probably not even hit that on air...

[CrackaBoi]

i have q6600 running right now @ 3.8 under water cooling @ 36c idle 45c under load
cpu volt 1.55
ram @ 853mhz @4-4-4-10
i have found your ability to overclock has direct connections with all the other weird settings you can change on there i just played around with them and im rock solid running @ 425 fsb oh and i also have 4 sticks of ddr2 1066 crucial balistix

Thanks. We seem to have a very similar setup, I would be very thankful if you shared the most important settings you changed in the tweaker menu. First off, what are you running as FSB strap, and mem speed (divider)?

[-=j0nnyr0773n=-]

i have q6600 running right now @ 3.8 under water cooling @ 36c idle 45c under load
cpu volt 1.55
ram @ 853mhz @4-4-4-10
i have found your ability to overclock has direct connections with all the other weird settings you can change on there i just played around with them and im rock solid running @ 425 fsb oh and i also have 4 sticks of ddr2 1066 crucial balistix

Could you post your bios settings as a reference?

[MIS3]

Is Anybody Air Cooling the SE Model?

Looking at the board, I am not sure how good the fusion block will work for heat dissipation.

I read in other forums that some people actually remove the fusion block that covers the NB. Is this even possible just to remove the fusion block? What do we do with the pipe connecting to the SB?

If removing the fusion block is possible, should I get a MB cooler to cool the MB?

[Evanesco]

Is Anybody Air Cooling the SE Model?

Looking at the board, I am not sure how good the fusion block will work for heat dissipation.

I read in other forums that some people actually remove the fusion block that covers the NB. Is this even possible just to remove the fusion block? What do we do with the pipe connecting to the SB?

If removing the fusion block is possible, should I get a MB cooler to cool the MB?

I can tell you it works perfectly fine! Why shouldn't it? My NB temp is at around 40C (38c-41C) with 1.61v. I don't find iy restrictive on the loop either.

[krifosjen]

Is Anybody Air Cooling the SE Model?

Looking at the board, I am not sure how good the fusion block will work for heat dissipation.

I read in other forums that some people actually remove the fusion block that covers the NB. Is this even possible just to remove the fusion block? What do we do with the pipe connecting to the SB?

If removing the fusion block is possible, should I get a MB cooler to cool the MB?

I'm aircooling the SE with fusion block. My cooling is ThermalRight 120 Extreme. My cpu is q6600 @ 3618,2. Ram is Corsair XMS2 6400 @ 402.

It's been steady as a rock for 1 week now. I dont pay attention to NB temp, as long as its stable. CPU is never above 51c.

BTW my ram is labelled 1.9v. Any1 know if thats good or bad, and why it is either way?

[MIS3]

I am curious about the NB temperature.

I am concerned because on the P5E, there is a heatsink on top on the NB with lots of heat fins to dissipate the heat.

When you air-cool the SE with the fusion block, did you remove the caps on the water connectors?

[krifosjen]

I am curious about the NB temperature.

I am concerned because on the P5E, there is a heatsink on top on the NB with lots of heat fins to dissipate the heat.

When you air-cool the SE with the fusion block, did you remove the caps on the water connectors?

Did nothing to caps or board at all, im DL the probe, hang on for temps.

[tylerw13]

Thanks. We seem to have a very similar setup, I would be very thankful if you shared the most important settings you changed in the tweaker menu. First off, what are you running as FSB strap, and mem speed (divider)?

these are my settings under bios

fsb frequ: 425
fsb strap: auto
pcie frequ: 110
ddram frequ: 1021
dram command: auto
dram timing: manual
4-5-5-14
rest auto
dram static: auto
ai clock twister: auto
transaction boost: auto
cpu volts: 1.55
cpu pll: 1.76
nb: 1.75
dram: 2.2
fsb termination: 1.4
sb: 1.175
loadline: enabled
cpu gtl: .63x
nb gtl: .67
ddr2 channel a: auto
b: auto
ddr2 controller: auto
sb 1.5: auto
cpu spread: disabled
pcie spread: disabled

hope this helps you guys out...honestly this freakin board is rock solid @ these settings i honestly have never had such ease of overclocking a cpu than with this mobo and as bios updates come out it will only get better!!! i seriously love my desicion to buy this thing!!! with my 680 i i couldnt even get over 3.45 with this same cpu...honestly amazing!!



edit my memory divider is 5:6 according to cpuz

[krifosjen]

NB is 51 celcius.

[loften]

who hoo, i am a newb, registered a few days ago and got activated today.. keep up the good work guys.. i been reading daily since page one and longer.. i decided to finally upgrade from my 2.5 xp2500 shuttle w/c rig after waiting and waiting for what seams like my whole life.. i have been looking at everything for years then seen the gigabyte x38 ddr3 board and was just a click away untill i ran accross this thread in the very early stages. i went ahead and got myself a asus maximus se about 1.5 weeks ago it has been on my shelf next to my e6850 for the last week.. i can't wait untill i can gather up the rest of the parts for this well needed upgrade..i have 4 stix of balistix 8500 and a 26 inch a full tower on the way now. the next will be my 1+k psu, 2, 74gb raptors and 1 2900xt then all the little things like water blocks, 2 water pumps,2 radiators for 2 seperate loops with a 3/8 loop covering the 3/8 barbed nb and gpu and a 1/2 inch loop covering the cpu alone..that should take me well into the next month just to get me started.. untill then i will keep reading and hopefully i can learn enough to jump right into this new stuff.. especially comming from socket A..