Samsung 215TW vs 226CW vs HP w2207

[Hilu]

no idea

[emoners]

@it_burns_when_i_pee: how about Viewsonic or Dell? & what's that underneath the LCDs? is that an amplifier?

[it_burns_when_i_pee]

@it_burns_when_i_pee: how about Viewsonic or Dell? & what's that underneath the LCDs? is that an amplifier?

i have not tried either sorry

this "review" is my own opinion of the monitors i tried. although most comments are 90% in agreement with other reviews comments i thought i'd just share my thoughts

[goatboy]

Great review. I always attributed the lag I had to game server lag. I never thought it was my Samsung. Now it makes sense. Time to get a new monitor.

Do you lose much of your vid cards performance when going to a larger size screen, say 24"?

[it_burns_when_i_pee]

Great review. I always attributed the lag I had to game server lag. I never thought it was my Samsung. Now it makes sense. Time to get a new monitor.

Do you lose much of your vid cards performance when going to a larger size screen, say 24"?

i've not tried a 24" but i did have my pc hooked upto a 40" plasma for a while and never felt or experienced lag.

pick a model you may consider and google it a few times with "problem" "lag" "issues" and of course check reviews

[dropandhop]

So I think I am just about settled on purchasing the w2207. My only real issues are:
1. Glare
2. physical horizontal size of the unit

For 1, my apartment has skylights in which the sun pours in (immediately behind my back, when seated at the computer desk). I currently have glare on my CRTS so I would image the glare on the w2207 would be worse then my current setup. Any thoughts.


For 2, most websites report the height of the unit as 19". (with the exception of amazon, who reports- 11.38") That seems an awful lot more then other 22" screens which are usually 16" high or so. I was thinking that the 19" quote might be the height when the stand is at its highest setting. I read somewhere that it can be raised 4", so that would be it is 15" at the lowest setting (much more reasonable). Do you have any clue what the height really is at the lowest setting?

Thanks again!

[it_burns_when_i_pee]

@ dropandhop - i did reply to your pm but didnt realise you had posted as well.

i dont have the sent mail for others to read and i cant be bothered to type it all again! nice of me eh?

[dropandhop]

for everyone else, below is it_burns_when_i_pee's thoughtful reply:

hi

the glare was an "issue" for me at first as i have a 6 foot b6 4 and half foot window behind me. its not more than the glare of a tv, its just because your closer you notice it when the pc is loading or on really dark screens. i thought it would really play on me but it hasnt. the glare maybe worse, depending on comparison to your crt, as most crt's screens are curved, the hp is completely flat, like a sheet of glass.

out of the ones i tried i found it the better tn panel, but thats only because the gloss improves the colors and gives it a wow factor. theres still color change as you move around but in reality i guess its just a little worse than the 8bit versions in 20in screens and less.

i've yet to see a non TN 22in panel apart from the 21in samsung 215tw, but that had lag and was un-livable in my eyes.

Acer, LG and samsung have brought out gloss screens, have not tried these but the fact they copied the hp in this department says it deffinately improves the screen's colors. check them out too.

the asthetics of the hp are awesome and the tilting really makes the difference. the samsung and lg i had could hardly be adjusted, and found i had to look down on them. the hp is awesome in the way you can look straight at it, above or below. its so adjustable compared to any other screen i have ever used.

as for height, all the way down its 14.6 inches and all the way up its 18.8 inches. depth is 11.4 inches plus a bit for the cable coming off the back.

from what i've tried i can still say its the best tn panel. the fact other manufacturer's are glossing their screens says something. if i were you i'd check them out too. dont just google for reviews but problems too, such as lag, delay etc. samsung seem to be very unreliable on the grade of screen you get. they've done it with several models making it a lottery. i'd only buy samsung again providing the store has a returns policy if i dont like it.

however i'd still recommend that if its avoidable, dont purchase a screen until the new screen technology hits the market sometime in spring.

oh, lastly, the gloss is best cleaned with a window cloth, not the wipes you get for tft's. it only leaves streaks.

best of luck

[dropandhop]

it_burns_when_i_pee:

Thanks so much for your thoughtful reply. Just a few reactions.

Wow, I can't believe it is that low and everyone seems to quote a whopping 19" height! Can you do me a huge favor and confirm it actually gets that low?
Sorry to be such a pain (my setup is a really tight squeeze).

Interesting that you were able to cope with the glare. So you think there is hope for me yet with this monitor, eh?! The glare is really close to a deal breaker for me (unfortunate that I won't know how it will react in here, because the skylight sun comes from mostly above). Did it almost stop you?

Thanks once again,
A

[it_burns_when_i_pee]

google the monitor and check the rear. you will see how it drops to its very base. its like a V shape not a stand going upwards.

i measured for you and thats what it comes out at. fully extended its well tall for my desk. im 6'4" so height is an issue - i have a low chair and the monitor is on a raised piece but adjusted low so its eye level for me.

sunlight from me comes from a very large window, directly behind me. as i said its only when its a dark image can i see myself. i dont think it would be as bad for you unless the sun shines in directly onto the screen

my friend has a massive loft conversion with skylights and has these shade things that are effectively "block" the entire window, stopping light coming in directly, it has sides with reflective panels. they are to stop the light hitting the tv and dimming all the colors. it does stop some light but he has like 4 windows on each side of the roof. maybe you could get something like that?

[Torphoto]

I have no lag on my 215tw, it's one of the newer not made in mexico ones.

[it_burns_when_i_pee]

the one i had was made in slovakia, aparantly they all suffer from it

and i was led to understand, from samsung and online that the mexico ones didnt suffer lag?

[Torphoto]

I don't have a lag problem, I mean it is slow compared to a crt but not near as bad as the youtube video, mine at least isn't.

[it_burns_when_i_pee]

I don't have a lag problem, I mean it is slow compared to a crt but not near as bad as the youtube video, mine at least isn't.

you lucky mofo! if i come across one without lag i would seriously consider losing an inch and swap my hp

now how many men would consider losing an inch? ha

[Shade00]

I've had a 215TW for quite a while now. Mine is an all-black Tijuana, Mexico model. Works like a champ, and I lucked out when Office Depot was selling them for $275-$100 rebate. =) Anyway, enough bragging.

Have you looked at the 216BW? I thought they used an 8-bit panel. I saw one at my BB the other day.

[it_burns_when_i_pee]

not tried that screen. i dont review screens, all the above was my personal opinion and disapointment on the screens i had

the 215tw i had, as you can see in the pics, is silver and black. i did read that people wanted the pure black one but not because it was made in mexico

im waiting for these LED TFT's i read about a while back, i think its next year they are out

[dropandhop]

So I made the plunge, and I got a w2207. I love it! Although, the screen is pretty sensitive to movement so it shakes as I type. Have any of you noticed this? Any fix out there?!

Thanks again,
A

[it_burns_when_i_pee]

glad you like it

however no mine does not shake. i just rapidly tapped hard and still nothing. hitting the desk is the only thing that makes it move

maybe its your desk or the hinge on the screen isnt that tight?