8800GT(G92) Reviews !!

[MuffinFlavored]

When you all say it won't support DX 10.1 you mean it won't support Dx 10 at all rigth, only dx 9?

No.
Microsoft is making a revision to DirectX 10, which will require hardware support.

There is currently DirectX 10.0.
And there will be DirectX 10.1.

If a card supports DirectX 10.0, it will not support DirectX 10.1.
If a card supports DirectX 10.1, it will support DirectX 10.0.
If a card supports DirectX 9.0c, it does not support DirectX 10.0 or DirectX 10.1.

If a card doesn't support DirectX 10.1, but DirectX 10.0, then it still supports DirectX 10.0.

[Soulburner]

As for the IQ, ATi(I will NEVER call the R600 amd's project) never had the upper hand in AA. They both only go up to 8x Multi-sampling, and both use almost identical multisampling algorithms. You can bring up the filters, but I'll simply remind you of the fact that it's known to actually lower image quality by a blurring of the image. This is well documented across the web.

Check the beyond3d article on the R600, and you'll find that even they will tell you the 8 series has better image quality on a technical level. Equal AA and Better AF = better image quality.

Maybe but consider this. ATi has that sweet 6xAA mode. I always loved that one...you got great AA without having to take the performance penalty of 8x like on Nvidia cards. It was a nice sweet spot for me back in the day, anyway.

[DilTech]

Maybe but consider this. ATi has that sweet 6xAA mode. I always loved that one...you got great AA without having to take the performance penalty of 8x like on Nvidia cards. It was a nice sweet spot for me back in the day, anyway.

6xAA is gone, it was replaced by 8xAA in the R600.

[adamsleath]

i got 6x with x1950pro
maybe ill sell it when 3850 cheapo comes out.

[Soulburner]

6xAA is gone, it was replaced by 8xAA in the R600.

Uh why? Are they bringing it back?

[JoeBar]

Great scores! A very nice card for an affordable yet very powerful sli system...

[Mortal]

NVidia's still in the lead, they really don't have a reason to show their high-end yet. They can just sit and wait.

Totally agree, I'm just very impatient. Especially so after seeing the 8800GT numbers.

[grimREEFER]

As for the 8800GT vs HD3xxx I think we all can agree, if ATi fixed their AA problems, we're going to have a war.

i disagree, i think if amd found a better way to do AA, they will win. right now, its a war. that dx10.1 support is a huge feature.

[RPGWiZaRD]

i disagree, i think if amd found a better way to do AA, they will win. right now, its a war. that dx10.1 support is a huge feature.

That might find it's way to some PC game when it's time to upgrade card again. Will prolly take 1½ years+ b4 some games might utilize DX 10.1.

For me DX10.1 isn't that interesting now but if they fix the AA issue ATI might get interesting.

[Eagleclaw]

That's another thing, if Dx 10.1 games are not out in full force within 6 months not a big deal, it will be time to upgrade by then anyway.

I am going to grab a 8800GT and if I need a dx 10.1 card in the future I will get one but until that happens I won't lose any sleep over it.

i disagree, i think if amd found a better way to do AA, they will win. right now, its a war. that dx10.1 support is a huge feature.

[Shintai]

That's another thing, if Dx 10.1 games are not out in full force within 6 months not a big deal, it will be time to upgrade by then anyway.

I am going to grab a 8800GT and if I need a dx 10.1 card in the future I will get one but until that happens I won't lose any sleep over it.

DX10.1 dont add much. And there aint a retail DirectX 10.1 you can apply on your Vista box. Thats atleast some 3-6months away.

DX10.0 was the big GFX thing. DX10.1 is mainly sound APIs.

I doubt we see any DX10.1 games before in a year or more. And even then it could easily be 2. Just look on how long it took to go from SM2 to SM3. And DX10 today is less than a handful of games. And they are all heavily sponsored.

But we might want some kind of DX10.1 soundcards before the GFX counterparts.

[mdio1234]

that freaking nuts, for only $249 imagine a couple of those in SLi that would be beastly..

[RPGWiZaRD]

DX10.1 support is only a marketing gimmick for now. How well do you think games that might utilize DX10.1 in let's say in 1½ years will run with a RV670? I wouldn't have big hopes for it. And even then you'd only see it in a few big titles that could be compared with Crysis and UT3 today.

[GoldenTiger]

Woot! Got a new pre-order in at a good vendor, called to confirm I could place it thru and have them set, payment upon in-stock via phone . Two of them will rock in SLI !

that freaking nuts, for only $249 imagine a couple of those in SLi that would be beastly..

Exactly...

[v_rr]

DX10.1 dont add much. And there aint a retail DirectX 10.1 you can apply on your Vista box. Thats atleast some 3-6months away.

DX10.0 was the big GFX thing. DX10.1 is mainly sound APIs.

I doubt we see any DX10.1 games before in a year or more. And even then it could easily be 2. Just look on how long it took to go from SM2 to SM3. And DX10 today is less than a handful of games. And they are all heavily sponsored.

But we might want some kind of DX10.1 soundcards before the GFX counterparts.

For marketing purpose DX_10.1 is a perfect key element.
If G92 do not support DX_10.1 is very bad in features related. ATI as a lot more features to show that NVIDIA don´t have: HDMI, HDMI-Audio, DX_10.1/SM4.1,independent HDCP keys for the 2 DVI outputs.

In performance G92 looks good, but the lack off DX_10.1 will be crucial. You can talk all day saying that DX_10.1 is nothing but 90% off people will go for the most featured card.

99% of people aren´t informed about those details that you know and simply pick the most advanced in technology. DX_10.1 > DX_10

HD 2600 and 8600 sold lot more then X1950pro/XT and they are worst. They sold purely because the ticket in the package saying: "DX_10". Again DX_10 > DX_9

Same will happen with these cards.
Average Joe looks to a box and see in one DX_10 and in other DX_10.1.
In 10 seconds he is picking dx_10.1 box and don´t even care about the DX_10 card.

The winer in this round will be the GPU with the best relation performance/features/price
RV670 looks a good candidate for that place. Specially because DX_10.1. It as a enormous weight in marketing.
G92 looks with strong performance. If G92 will support DX_10.1 it will be a very nice card, otherwise is just an opportunity that Nvidia is losing to make very strong sales.

[Plywood99]

Big question here, what water blocks will fit this card? I have two Maze4 blocks from a 7800gt sli setup. Would love for one to fit this card...


Ply

[grimREEFER]

does the new 3dmark have sm4.1 tests?

[Silver Bullet]

BGF card codes .. seems to be two so far:

BFG (BFGE88512GTOC2E) NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT OC2 512MB PCIe 2.0

BFG (BFGE88512GTOCE) NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT OC 512MB PCIe 2.0

No idea about the speeds .. but at least we know something

[GoldenTiger]

BGF card codes .. seems to be two so far:

BFG (BFGE88512GTOC2E) NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT OC2 512MB PCIe 2.0

BFG (BFGE88512GTOCE) NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT OC 512MB PCIe 2.0

No idea about the speeds .. but at least we know something

Where do you see those !?

EDIT: Found them at a distributor's site, nice.

[JoeBar]

Big question here, what water blocks will fit this card? I have two Maze4 blocks from a 7800gt sli setup. Would love for one to fit this card...


Ply

Your blocks won't fit a regular 8800 card, rather unlikely to fit them on a 8800GT.

Time for new ones...

[theholmboy]

We discussed this a few forums ago. Take a look at the picture I made, below - I got them perfectly to scale...

[Plywood99]

We discussed this a few forums ago. Take a look at the picture I made, below - I got them perfectly to scale...

Welcome to XS.

And thanks for the news! Think I will order this card this weekend if not sooner...


Ply

[tbone8ty]

nice i can steal my old vf900 cooler off my 6800agp card.

from the article the nvidia control panel showed 86C! damn thats hot! no wonder they had thermal issues.

ill throw in the other sexy naked core pic, i cant wait for this to come out!

[Silver Bullet]

I'm with you tbone8ty I'll take the VF900 off my 7900GT and stick it on there (just got to find the stock hs ... mmm)

Also...

BFG NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT OC2 512MB PCIe 2.0 - $265.95

BFG NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT OC 512MB PCIe 2.0 - $249.95

$CND btw

[GoldenTiger]

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nice i can steal my old vf900 cooler off my 6800agp card.

from the article the nvidia control panel showed 86C! damn thats hot! no wonder they had thermal issues.

ill throw in the other sexy naked core pic, i cant wait for this to come out!

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Me either... I've got a pair for SLI on order with ExcaliberPC already, so they should be in my hands next week. Can't wait... shame that they're in CA though, I'm in CT too so shipping will take a bit longer since it's via ground . I'll probably have to grab something to help cool them further from the sounds of it, though ! I don't have any older, nicer coolers for these already either.